head blow

Did the Ramseys know any 300 lb men? Where is this fatso at?

wondering wrote:

Did the Ramseys know any 300 lb men? Where is this fatso at?

The perp was able to deliver a 300lb blow.

wondering wrote:

Did the Ramseys know any 300 lb men? Where is this fatso at?

lol...:0)

oops, it's 1 am here and I thought I had a revelation lol I'm just tired. Please forgive my stupidity this time and all the other times I'm sure will come up in the future. Must get coffee.

lol!!!!!!!!

Victory wrote:

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The perp was able to deliver a 300lb blow.

I agree and I want to clarify......

The force to deliver a 300 lb blunt force trauma injury.....

** Does not mean that the killer weighed 300 lbs**

Oops... Fore=Force... That was not his blooper.... That one was all mine...lol :0)

It's now 3:42 in the morning here and I just came to see if I was severly roasted for being an imbecile. I'm happy to see I was not. I really thought i had seen it posted somewhere that a 300 pounder had to deliver the blow to do that kind of damage. Funny how the mind plays tricks on you.

Back to googling

Autumn wrote:

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J. Douglas The cases that haunt us pg. 429, in the last paragraph he says: " What would suddenly cause Patsy to lash out forcefully enough to deck a three hundred-pounder"
Wise said it on the Court TV "JonBenet: Anatomy
of a Cold Case" I remember it distinctly because he referenced the Green Bay Packers and committed a blooper... He said "with enough fore to bring down a 350 lb Green Packers lineman"

Thanks: was the Douglas book hardback or paperback? And who is Wise?
Best wishes,
Miss Marple

Miss Marple wrote:

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Thanks: was the Douglas book hardback or paperback? And who is Wise?
Best wishes,
Miss Marple

Bill Wise was an assistant district attorney in Boulder at the time of the JonBenet murder. There were other lawyers like him at the Boulder DA's office, like Trip DeMuth, and Hofstrom who has now retired.

There used to be an interview with Mame/Nancy Drew/Mary Suma on the internet discussing the Schiller PMPT Ramsey case book when it was published, or re-published. It still says that particular interview is there on the ACandyRose website but the link doesn't work. I don't know if that's permanent or not.

This is a reference from Court TV crime library to Bill Wise at about the time the Ramsey book Death of Innocence came out, which would be about 2000:

"Boulder District Attorney Alex Hunter announced that his office had run out of money for the case and had no immediate plans to seek additional funding. "We are making no request at this time," said Bill Wise, first assistant district attorney. "That is not to say that we may not have to go back before the commissioners and make a request, but I cannot predict if that will happen."

Here's a picture of Nancy Drew (Mame) with Alex Hunter and Bill Wise from 2000 after BJ Plasket and I interviewed Hunter.

http://tinyurl.com/yzqrbt

Miss Marple wrote:

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Thanks: was the Douglas book hardback or paperback? And who is Wise?
Best wishes,
Miss Marple

I'm Sorry Miss. Marple it was Paperback and Henrietta is correct.... I was referring too ADA Wise.... Thanks, Henrietta...:0)

Eh, part of the conspiracy to cover up whatever happened to that poor little girl...

It appears JonBenet wore a long colorful scarf home from the Whites. It's pictured on the bed opposite hers with other discarded black velvet party clothes.

http://www.geocities.com/gooseberryjam007/the...

http://www.geocities.com/gooseberryjam007/dar...

What came first the strangulation or the head trauma... it was never determined. They could have happened simultaneously as Patsy, John, or Burke dragged JonBenet by her scarf and let go when it was realized JonBenet was in dire trouble and her head ricocheted fracturing her skull.

JonBenet's dolls; their removal from the crime scene and the Ramsey's aquisition of new ones after the murder are definitve proof they were intimately involved in her death.

http://www.geocities.com/pinker44

Nancy Drew wrote:

Here's a picture of Nancy Drew (Mame) with Alex Hunter and Bill Wise from 2000 after BJ Plasket and I interviewed Hunter.
http://tinyurl.com/yzqrbt

Hiya Nancy...:0)
Keeping in mind that other than what has been said on this forum about you.... I don't know anything else about you at all, So, I'm wondering if you personally could give me some background on yourself, as to how you became involved in this case and what the extent of your involvement was if you don't mind.... Also, if you have a link to a transcript of the above interview could you post it for us..... Thank you...:0)

wondering wrote:

It's now 3:42 in the morning here and I just came to see if I was severly roasted for being an imbecile. I'm happy to see I was not. I really thought i had seen it posted somewhere that a 300 pounder had to deliver the blow to do that kind of damage. Funny how the mind plays tricks on you.
Back to googling

Hiya Wondering...:0)
It probably wasn't a mind trick.... There is a lot of mis-information out there on this case that gets posted by self appointed comedians and then re posted by people who don't find them funny, as being accurate information...... I'd say it was a good question to clarify...... Thank you, I'm glad you posted it.....:0)

jahazafat wrote:

Eh, part of the conspiracy to cover up whatever happened to that poor little girl...
It appears JonBenet wore a long colorful scarf home from the Whites. It's pictured on the bed opposite hers with other discarded black velvet party clothes.
http://www.geocities.com/gooseberryjam007/the...
http://www.geocities.com/gooseberryjam007/dar...
What came first the strangulation or the head trauma... it was never determined. They could have happened simultaneously as Patsy, John, or Burke dragged JonBenet by her scarf and let go when it was realized JonBenet was in dire trouble and her head ricocheted fracturing her skull.
JonBenet's dolls; their removal from the crime scene and the Ramsey's aquisition of new ones after the murder are definitve proof they were intimately involved in her death.
http://www.geocities.com/pinker44

Why didn't they find fibers from her scarf on her body?

ask for her 'journalistic' credentials....

Jahazafat, I don't question your Doll credentials.

Nancy Drew wrote:

Here's a picture of Nancy Drew (Mame) with Alex Hunter and Bill Wise from 2000 after BJ Plasket and I interviewed Hunter.
http://tinyurl.com/yzqrbt

You sure clean up nice after your daily dive.:) g girl

Autumn wrote:

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Hiya Nancy...:0)
Keeping in mind that other than what has been said on this forum about you.... I don't know anything else about you at all, So, I'm wondering if you personally could give me some background on yourself, as to how you became involved in this case and what the extent of your involvement was if you don't mind.... Also, if you have a link to a transcript of the above interview could you post it for us..... Thank you...:0)

Mame used to be a radio interviewer for the local Boulder community radio station in the years following the JonBenet murder.

There used to be transcripts of some of those interviews on the internet. Those interviews may still be there somewhere. There was one Mame interview with Judith Phillips when Judith made some silly remark that she had heard some gossip that Patsy was having an affair, and was out of the Ramsey house the night JonBenet was murdered. It sounded to me like some of Spade's obfuscations of the truth.

I think Mame has interviewed one or two celebrities in the past. They must have been passing through Boulder, or Denver, which she seems very proud about, and rightly so. I think Mame's father was a journalist.

I have just discovered a Mame interview with Bill Wise on the intenet. I'm not sure if it's the one where the Schiller PMPT is discussed. The simplest mathod of finding it is to type into Google:

Bill Wise + Mary Suma interview + JonBenet Ramsey case

The interview comes up on the top section of the Google page, and the link works from ACandyRose.