Staging debunked

There are a number of oddities in what was done to the body that are written off as due to amateurism or panic or desparation that can be explained consistently by the deliberate theory:

If there was staging how was LE supposed to interpret;
1. the handle
2. the length of cord from the neck loop to the handle
3. the length of cord between the wrist loops
4. the cord tied lighty over the shirt on the arms compared to the severity of the cord application to the neck
5. the two hair pigtails
6. the cleaning of the body followed by the redressing with soiled clothes
7. the oversized panties over the leggings
8. the wrapping of the body in a blanket
9. the lightly applied duct tape
10. the repertition of white, the white shirt, white panties, white leggings, white blanket, white cord

1. Any type of strangulation device would have worked; a simple cord, rope, scarf, anything whether it had a source in the house or out of it would have sufficed. The inclusion of the handle is an extra effort to add an exclamation to the police according to the accident/cover-up theory: this is what criminals do cops, get it already?
When in fact the handle is best described as having a practical and real function; an aid to suspension after death, iow a gibbet. And a gibbet is part of The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie.
2. A handle closer to the neck loop would be easier to work than one 15" away. Again, bad design because of lack of criminal knowledge? No, if the handle is pulled up behind the head it clears it suggesting again a real function; suspension and another match to the description of a gibbet. The handle could have been placed between to pipes or protruding objects or even one end in a hole and one end of the brush handle was missing.
3. The wrist ligatures as constructed and applied would not have resticted the movement of a living person. 17" between the loops would allow the person to move almost completely unhindered. Again, bad design by a non-criminal? No, if the handle was placed in a holder and the wrist cord placed over the same holder it would raise the arms to the exact position they were found in suggesting posing and suspension, another match to a gibbet and a match also to many murders; posing of the body/object for reasons known only to the murderer.
A also there are repeating themes here common to other aspects of the crime; the raising of arms and the Psalms. The sisters did that together apon meeting along with chanting Psalms. Here again the deliberate theory is consistent and matches psychology texts and crime texts: repeating behavior patterns are key to profiling and investigation and psychological diagnosis.
4. Again, function explains this disparity. The deep furrow caused by the neck ligature is not caused by a demonstration to police that this is what strangulation looks like. A slight application would have sufficed. And the bruising below the neck loop suggests a more complex attempt to affect that area for reasons other than a message to cops. The deep furrow is due to the need to secure the loop to the neck for suspension. It is not due to hanging as the cord was probably pulled tight before the suspension. The lower brusing suggests a learning curve occured.
5. This was done contrary to what was usually done for sleeping. Again, because criminals do this? No, because the hair was moved out of the way to aid the application of the ligatures and the suspension. Consistency and function are a part of the deliberate theory.

6. If one wants to clean why put the filth back on that one just cleaned off? The answer is the white long Johns were important because of their whiteness even though they were filthy . A criminal would not do this but a person directed by symbolic imagery would.
7. How can the extra effort to find the package and remove a specific article that just happened to be the same day of the week that Christmas was on be interpreted as the act of a criminal? Again is this an attmept to tell cops this is what criminals do? Where did the stager get that idea, crime books? Is that supposed to look like a message from a Zodiac type, a Jack the Ripper type taunting police? No, again it is an act of symbolism that was important to the perp: it ties the day of the week to the holiday solidifying the notion for the perp that JonBenet died on the 25th not the 26th which may well have been the actual time of death.
This is also consistent with the headstone having the same date. There was a need for this symbolic connection that was supplied by numbers and dates, something that also shows up in the ransom note. Again consistency and function are part of the deliberate theory.
8. How is this supposed to look like the act of a criminal? Is this an act of love that a mother just could not refuse to give a child even in the midst of sending messages to cops? No, the wrapping is consistent not only with the theme of white but also with the theme of entombment where an alb is placed over the body before being placed in the tomb, more symbolism. Again, consistency and function not randomness, amateurism or panic.
9. Criminals put duct tape over the mouth so that the mouth cannot move just like they put wrist bindings so that arms do not move. Bad staging because of a lack of criminal nature inconsistent with the severity of the neck ligature? No, likely this was the last act by Patsy after placing the body in the small room setting up her next dramatic scene; the kidnapping. The duct tape did not have to influence cops it only had to serve Patsy.
10. The proponderance of coincidence rules out coincidence. White is a well known symbol of death in many religions and is used for burials. Symbolism, function and consistency are a part of the deliberate theory as opposed to the randomness, amateurism, panic and desperation of the accident cover-up theory.

Awesome analysis. Again, I'm very intrigued by your insight.

Thank you.

I don' t think Patsy did it. The stun gun was never found; moreover, parents just don't stun gun and garrote their children. The killer had to peer into JB's face. I don't believe that a loving parent could do that, even to cover up a crime. And by all accounts Patsy loved her children. As for Burke, his involvement seems a far fetched conclusion to me. It takes a lot of force to leave an 8 inch long gap in a human skull, at least more than a nine year old boy could muster. I fear we will never know for certain what happened in that house. Santa gets my vote, but he may be completely innocent.

Starry wrote:

I don' t think Patsy did it. The stun gun was never found; moreover, parents just don't stun gun and garrote their children. The killer had to peer into JB's face. I don't believe that a loving parent could do that, even to cover up a crime. And by all accounts Patsy loved her children. As for Burke, his involvement seems a far fetched conclusion to me. It takes a lot of force to leave an 8 inch long gap in a human skull, at least more than a nine year old boy could muster. I fear we will never know for certain what happened in that house. Santa gets my vote, but he may be completely innocent.

You are over your head here or you are a troll.

Was she buried in white?

BM, I am not a troll and I have followed this case from the beginning. Think what you will.

Furthermore BM, since you are so knowledgeable about the crime why don't you inform Boulder LE so they can solve it once and for all? You have nothing more than anyone else. We're all guessing. Based on what I have read a stun gun was used on Jonbenet. Would I swear under oath? Of course not. No one knows for absolute certain, including authorities. If I am wrong on this point or any other you are welcome to enlighten me. I maintain an opened mind.

Learning, yes she was buried in white.

Starry wrote:

Learning, yes she was buried in white.

Do you have a source for that? I am pretty sure she was buried in one of her pageant dresses but I am not sure what color it was.

Here you go TTH, it is on ACR's site:
"JonBenet's mother, Patsy Ramsey, was in the market for some custom made costumes at a local pageant called Dream Star held in Rome, GA, over Thanksgiving weekend 1996. After striking up a conversation with Faye in a restaurant, Patsy asked about the outfits she was selling. Patsy ended up buying Rayanna's fancy white pageant dress, made of silk organza. One month later, JonBenet was buried in it."

The Truth Hurts wrote:

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Do you have a source for that? I am pretty sure she was buried in one of her pageant dresses but I am not sure what color it was.

DrSeussMd wrote:

Here you go TTH, it is on ACR's site:
"JonBenet's mother, Patsy Ramsey, was in the market for some custom made costumes at a local pageant called Dream Star held in Rome, GA, over Thanksgiving weekend 1996. After striking up a conversation with Faye in a restaurant, Patsy asked about the outfits she was selling. Patsy ended up buying Rayanna's fancy white pageant dress, made of silk organza. One month later, JonBenet was buried in it."
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Thanks, Seuss.:)

My pleasure. I had just run across it last night while looking for something else - glad to help.

The Truth Hurts wrote:

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Thanks, Seuss.:)

Thank you good Dr. I never thought to wonder what color she was buried in, but there again is a coincidence that is likely not a coincidence.

Starry wrote:

BM, I am not a troll and I have followed this case from the beginning. Think what you will.

If you knew much about this forum you would understand about the troll, see post 12. I give the newbies crap because my first instinct is to think the new post is another angle for the resident freak to cause trouble. Also the stun gun has been debunked ad nauseum, that idea deserves ridicule.

Great question though about what color was the dress she was burried in, thanks for that. THAT is actually a contribution to the discussion, something others (Biz, Nellie, et. al.) should learn from.

No problem, BM. And thanks for clearing that up. But, the question of the color dress wasn't mine. I have read some of your posts and I don't make the same connection or symbolism about the color white that you do. I am not surprised that patsy chose white for her daughter's burial gown. I do think it was an appropriate choice, though. By the way, it's good to make the acquaintance of all of you. no doubt some of you, if not all in some fashion, know a bit more about the case than I currently do. I let it drop for a time and have forgotten much. Am researching and refreshing, though. I also like getting other points of view. Someone must have it right, or damned near!

Btw, I was just on the tru crime site. Their take seems much the same as mine. Their references were strong, although I take most anything alleged with a grain of salt. I do not believe the Ramsey's guilt. The molestation was not committed by a family member, IMO. And Burke was a small boy. He was never even considered a suspect (okay, not that this proves anything). To crush her skull like that does seem to be overkill. And what about the garotte? I have read a lot of true crime. Parents don't do this to their children. Not loving parents. Besides, whomever did it had to have had a knowledge of specific or special knots. The parents were exonerated by lie detector tests administered by professional professionals. Redundant? Lol. Probably. But the facts speak for themselves, right?

BrotherMoon wrote:

Thank you good Dr. I never thought to wonder what color she was buried in, but there again is a coincidence that is likely not a coincidence.

I do think it is extremely interesting that she was found clothed in white and buried in a white dress....