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JimmyWells wrote: Wow would you look at all this verbal jabbing? I honestly think half the people on the board don't know shit about the case but to see some of the more informed participating in this banter really sickens me. Aw I'm just kidding, have at it. As George W once proclaimed "Mission Accomplished!" Jimmy, as for all intents and purposes of the thread, we ARE on topic, right? LOL By the way, I was never much of a history buff, so who is the "George W"? George Washington, George Wallace, George Whats-his-name? And since I have no sense of humor, you will understand that I'm being completely serious, I'm sure, LOL.
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“Bama's Tide beats Cal ”
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Lynette 22 wrote: <quoted text> I appreciate what you're saying, Ole South, and I agree. But as is the case with any profession, there are those who are conscientious and those who are not. Sometimes it's very hard not to call some people "stupid". I am currently reading Vincent Bugliosi's book "Helter Skelter" (a really excellent book, btw). He tells of a 10-year-old boy, Steven Weiss, who lived not far from the Tate residence, finding a gun in his garden one day approximately two weeks after the murders. This little boy had been watching TV and understood the importance of handling the gun correctly, so he picked it up very carefully by the tip of the barrel so as not to eradicate any prints and showed it to his dad who called the police. Steven later related how, when the cop arrived and handled the gun, he touched it all over with both hands and removed the cartridges from the cylinder. Then he took the gun away, booked it into evidence and apparently never gave it a second thought. In the meantime the Tate investigators were frantically searching for the gun and may never have found it had Bernard Weiss, Steven's dad, not put two and two together. However, when he called LAPD homicide and told his story, their attitude was pretty much dismissive. It was only after he called a newscaster friend of his who called a connection in LAPD, that the gun was finally located THREE AND A HALF MONTHS later. Stupid cop? In that case, definitely. That little ten-year-old boy had more sense. Hi, Lynette: First I'd like to tell you how beautiful your(?) kitties are! It gives me an urge to reach out and stroke them! Regardless of all the pokes at me for saying so, I am a cat-lover and don't mind saying so! I love dogs, too (I lost my Cocker Spaniel whe she was 17 and just haven't had the heart to get another one) but cats are really my love. We've always had pets of some sort in the family. And I hope I wasn't too harsh in my response to your post. Friday nite, when our police officer was killed, all three TV stations kept abreast of the story as it unfolded and it was nerve wrenching to see all this right on your TV -- especially knowing a crazed gunman was on the loose shooting at everything in sight. And the entire chase/capture lasted some 3 hours! Also, it brought to mind a similar incident involving two officers who were seriously wounded some time ago and I had to go to the hospital to get statements from each of them, shortly before their wounds had even been treated! It did bring back some terrible memories along with the horror of the scene unfolding before our eyes! Since this was all still fresh in my mind, I probably was a bit too critical in my response to you. I do understand what you were saying and even though police officers today definitely are more educated and qualified for the job, there still are some, just like everywhere, who don't always use good judgment all the time. But, hey, they are only human and humans aren't perfect. Since I mentioned Patricia Krenwinkle, I saw her while she was confined in our jail. She was really a rough-looking character, having long, wild hair, heavy dark eyebrows, and a coarse appearance in general. I was told she would lie around in her bunk with no underwear, wearing only a jail smock. I also was told she had a dark growth of hair over her body, which was said due to the drugs she had been on. In short, she was definitely someone I wouldn't want to come across at night on a dark street, LOL. I do hope I didn't offend you with the tone of my post.
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Ole South wrote: <quoted text> Hi, Lynette: First I'd like to tell you how beautiful your(?) kitties are! It gives me an urge to reach out and stroke them! Regardless of all the pokes at me for saying so, I am a cat-lover and don't mind saying so! I love dogs, too (I lost my Cocker Spaniel whe she was 17 and just haven't had the heart to get another one) but cats are really my love. We've always had pets of some sort in the family. And I hope I wasn't too harsh in my response to your post. Friday nite, when our police officer was killed, all three TV stations kept abreast of the story as it unfolded and it was nerve wrenching to see all this right on your TV -- especially knowing a crazed gunman was on the loose shooting at everything in sight. And the entire chase/capture lasted some 3 hours! Also, it brought to mind a similar incident involving two officers who were seriously wounded some time ago and I had to go to the hospital to get statements from each of them, shortly before their wounds had even been treated! It did bring back some terrible memories along with the horror of the scene unfolding before our eyes! Since this was all still fresh in my mind, I probably was a bit too critical in my response to you. I do understand what you were saying and even though police officers today definitely are more educated and qualified for the job, there still are some, just like everywhere, who don't always use good judgment all the time. But, hey, they are only human and humans aren't perfect. Since I mentioned Patricia Krenwinkle, I saw her while she was confined in our jail. She was really a rough-looking character, having long, wild hair, heavy dark eyebrows, and a coarse appearance in general. I was told she would lie around in her bunk with no underwear, wearing only a jail smock. I also was told she had a dark growth of hair over her body, which was said due to the drugs she had been on. In short, she was definitely someone I wouldn't want to come across at night on a dark street, LOL. I do hope I didn't offend you with the tone of my post. Hi Ole South. I wasn't in the least offended by your comments to me. You weren't harsh at all. I think most people feel outraged when good, decent police officers are murdered in the line of duty by worthless thugs who are not assets to society and not deserving of the air they breathe. You would feel it more than most as you worked in a police department for so many years and therefore got to know them as people. Watching a situation as you described unfold as it's happening brings home the true horror of it all and would obviously evoke strong feelings. Had I seen it, I'd have felt the same as you. You're lucky Patricia Krenwinkle didn't escape while she was in jail in your area :). Seriously though, she was an awful person, they all were. It's mentioned in the book that she was very hairy to the extent that it actually put the guys off. I didn't know it was due to the drugs she'd been taking. Yuk! Yes, that kitty is mine. She's very cute. She knows what time I get home from work in the afternoon and sits in the garden waiting for me. As my car comes up the driveway, she runs over like a little dog, maiowing and welcoming me home. It's very touching. I'm sorry about your spaniel. 17 is a very good age for a dog, but their lives are too short and it's heart-wrenching when we have to say goodbye. I also grew up in a home which always had pets. I couldn't imagine living without them.
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Lynette 22 wrote: <quoted text> Hi Ole South. I wasn't in the least offended by your comments to me. You weren't harsh at all. I think most people feel outraged when good, decent police officers are murdered in the line of duty by worthless thugs who are not assets to society and not deserving of the air they breathe. You would feel it more than most as you worked in a police department for so many years and therefore got to know them as people. Watching a situation as you described unfold as it's happening brings home the true horror of it all and would obviously evoke strong feelings. Had I seen it, I'd have felt the same as you. You're lucky Patricia Krenwinkle didn't escape while she was in jail in your area :). Seriously though, she was an awful person, they all were. It's mentioned in the book that she was very hairy to the extent that it actually put the guys off. I didn't know it was due to the drugs she'd been taking. Yuk! Yes, that kitty is mine. She's very cute. She knows what time I get home from work in the afternoon and sits in the garden waiting for me. As my car comes up the driveway, she runs over like a little dog, maiowing and welcoming me home. It's very touching. I'm sorry about your spaniel. 17 is a very good age for a dog, but their lives are too short and it's heart-wrenching when we have to say goodbye. I also grew up in a home which always had pets. I couldn't imagine living without them. Good Morning', Lynette. I'm so glad to hear from you. I was just going to send you a PM to see if you saw my post. So, thank you for your kindness. I know what you mean about your kitty waiting for you. My Pi, my inside/outside kitty, does the same. It's funny how she acts. She'll wait next door for my car to come in, then she'll meet me at our side door and after rubbing on the bannisters, she then runs to the front door. She's so funny! She won't come in the side door with me, so I have to go through the house and let her in the FRONT DOOR, lol. And my cocker -- she was so beautiful -- a lovely blonde with big brown eyes. She was so-o-o protective of me. Every time anyone came to the house, she would jump in my lap or stay at my side and no one dared to come near me! She slept on the foot of my bed and if there was ever a strange sound, she would sit up and growl. I couldn't have asked for a more protective, loving companion. IMO, the entire Manson gang should never be considered for parole. In fact, it's very disturbing when I read that one or another of them is coming up for parole. They are lucky they all didn't get the death penalty. And as for the police officer, his funeral was yesterday and had to have been the most touching, impressive event I've ever witnessed. The procession was over 10 miles long, consisting of law enforcement from all over the Southeast and as far away as Chicago. Although with the Department for only two years, the officer had been active in coaching Little League Football and had played for one of the local high school teams. One of the most touching scenes was along the boulevard where I was watching, each member of the present football team stood, carrying a flag of the individual states, thus 50 young boys lined the roadside, each holding a state flag. And above them was a H-U-G-E American flag, hoisted high in the air between two Fire Department ladder trucks, while even more officers stood at attention...All a very chilling sight and a wonderful tribute to him and for his family.
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Ole South wrote: <quoted text> Good Morning', Lynette. I'm so glad to hear from you. I was just going to send you a PM to see if you saw my post. So, thank you for your kindness. I know what you mean about your kitty waiting for you. My Pi, my inside/outside kitty, does the same. It's funny how she acts. She'll wait next door for my car to come in, then she'll meet me at our side door and after rubbing on the bannisters, she then runs to the front door. She's so funny! She won't come in the side door with me, so I have to go through the house and let her in the FRONT DOOR, lol. And my cocker -- she was so beautiful -- a lovely blonde with big brown eyes. She was so-o-o protective of me. Every time anyone came to the house, she would jump in my lap or stay at my side and no one dared to come near me! She slept on the foot of my bed and if there was ever a strange sound, she would sit up and growl. I couldn't have asked for a more protective, loving companion. IMO, the entire Manson gang should never be considered for parole. In fact, it's very disturbing when I read that one or another of them is coming up for parole. They are lucky they all didn't get the death penalty. And as for the police officer, his funeral was yesterday and had to have been the most touching, impressive event I've ever witnessed. The procession was over 10 miles long, consisting of law enforcement from all over the Southeast and as far away as Chicago. Although with the Department for only two years, the officer had been active in coaching Little League Football and had played for one of the local high school teams. One of the most touching scenes was along the boulevard where I was watching, each member of the present football team stood, carrying a flag of the individual states, thus 50 young boys lined the roadside, each holding a state flag. And above them was a H-U-G-E American flag, hoisted high in the air between two Fire Department ladder trucks, while even more officers stood at attention...All a very chilling sight and a wonderful tribute to him and for his family. Hi Ole South. Lol, that's a funny story about your cat insisting on being let in the front door. The little madam! Cocker spaniels are GORGEOUS dogs, both in looks and in nature. I can well believe yours was a wonderful protective friend and companion to you. I've never owned one, but my friend did. We used to take our dogs to dog training together. I very much doubt any of the Manson gang will ever be paroled. Susan Atkins asked for compassionate parole when she was dying of brain cancer and her request was denied. I believe she died in 2009. What a waste of a life and what a terrible legacy to leave behind. I felt very sorry for the one Manson girl. Her name was Dianne Lake and she was only about 13 when her parents actually ENCOURAGED her to join the "family". For some reason Manson was horribly physically abusive towards her. Yet she stayed. As Bugliosi said, the alternative was probably even worse. From what you described, I can believe that the police officer's funeral procession must have been extremely moving to watch. I felt moved just reading your account of it. For his family, it must have been tremendously comforting to know that their loved one was that much appreciated. I hope his killer gets the harshest possible sentence.
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“Bama's Tide beats Cal ”
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Lynette 22 wrote: <quoted text> Hi Ole South. Lol, that's a funny story about your cat insisting on being let in the front door. The little madam! .... From what you described, I can believe that the police officer's funeral procession must have been extremely moving to watch. I felt moved just reading your account of it. For his family, it must have been tremendously comforting to know that their loved one was that much appreciated. I hope his killer gets the harshest possible sentence. Yes, she is a sweetheart! She will be 15 years old in two months, and I could tell you a lot of stories about her. She's a black and white manx and I almost didn't adopt her because she had no tail! But I felt sorry for her, think she might be put to sleep if no one adopted her, so I did. I've never regreted it for one minute. Like I said, she is really a sweetheart and has given me much joy. One more thing about the funeral procession, I've never seen anything like it before and I've seen several. Afterwards, it was reported to be the largest funeral ever held in the state. I can vouch for it being the most impressive. Whoever planned it did a tremendous job. It was so well thought out, down to the last detail, like, when after the 21-gun salute, 3 white doves were released into the clear blue sky. As for the killer, when he kept firing and refused to surrender, even after having been bombarded with tear gas, a SWAT team finally took him out. I hate to sound so hard hearted, but all I could think of was, "What took them so long?"
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Mama2JML wrote: <quoted text> AND YOU ARE THE BIGGEST, FATTEST, OLDEST @$$H01E OF THEM ALL, YOU DESPERATE, DISGUSTING FILTHY WITCH. Ahh.:o) The above is from post number 88. This is the person Ole South admires. LMAO
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OneWhoCares wrote: <quoted text>The above is from post number 88. This is the person Ole South admires. LMAO Ahh, that was a refreshing release of pent up frustration. I am sure noticed that I was using words (fat, old, etc.) that have been used in reference to OS and myself. Actually, you and other RDIs encourage this behavior. I thought it would feel good to give y'all a taste of your own medicine, and it did feel good to just retaliate in like... Capricorn seems to be the "queen RDI bee" and the rest of your group are more or less the "wannabes". Have you read that book? It's about bullying with regard to pre-adolescent to adolescent-aged girls. I use it as resource for a club that I have organized with our school counselor. The behaviors exhibited by you and your "friends" exemplify the theories presented in the book, but you all are GROWN women. Anyway, at the time of the post I thought Capricorn was the meanest in the group. Although, I'm not sure I feel the same way now. You seem to do her "dirty work", and she sits back cheering you on. So, I guess you may be the most malicious of all the posters here. Eh, it's a toss up b/w you, RT and Capricorn....but she's still your mis-"leader".
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Mama2JML wrote: <quoted text> Ahh, that was a refreshing release of pent up frustration. I am sure noticed that I was using words (fat, old, etc.) that have been used in reference to OS and myself. Actually, you and other RDIs encourage this behavior. I thought it would feel good to give y'all a taste of your own medicine, and it did feel good to just retaliate in like... Capricorn seems to be the "queen RDI bee" and the rest of your group are more or less the "wannabes". Have you read that book? It's about bullying with regard to pre-adolescent to adolescent-aged girls. I use it as resource for a club that I have organized with our school counselor. The behaviors exhibited by you and your "friends" exemplify the theories presented in the book, but you all are GROWN women.
Anyway, at the time of the post I thought Capricorn was the meanest in the group. Although, I'm not sure I feel the same way now. You seem to do her "dirty work", and she sits back cheering you on. So, I guess you may be the most malicious of all the posters here. Eh, it's a toss up b/w you, RT and Capricorn....but she's still your mis-"leader". Nope - I was thinking more of the words "DESPERATE, DISGUSTING FILTHY WITCH" as being words you have used before. The exact same words that you have used in emails about me. No, can't say as I have ever read that book and don't think I need to. Perhaps you should read it again and let it sink it. If you are thinking anybody believes you are a teacher, you are delusional. What has this to do with the case? I thought you only wanted case discussion.
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The Truth Hurts
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Ole South wrote: <quoted text> Yes, she is a sweetheart! She will be 15 years old in two months, and I could tell you a lot of stories about her. She's a black and white manx and I almost didn't adopt her because she had no tail! But I felt sorry for her, think she might be put to sleep if no one adopted her, so I did. I've never regreted it for one minute. Like I said, she is really a sweetheart and has given me much joy. One more thing about the funeral procession, I've never seen anything like it before and I've seen several. Afterwards, it was reported to be the largest funeral ever held in the state. I can vouch for it being the most impressive. Whoever planned it did a tremendous job. It was so well thought out, down to the last detail, like, when after the 21-gun salute, 3 white doves were released into the clear blue sky. As for the killer, when he kept firing and refused to surrender, even after having been bombarded with tear gas, a SWAT team finally took him out. I hate to sound so hard hearted, but all I could think of was, "What took them so long?" Totally irrelevant to the conversation at hand but I just saw this and wanted to inform Ole South that Manx cats do not have tails so there was/is nothing wrong with her cat.:)
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The Truth Hurts wrote: <quoted text> Totally irrelevant to the conversation at hand but I just saw this and wanted to inform Ole South that Manx cats do not have tails so there was/is nothing wrong with her cat.:) Don't you think I didn't know this? The thing was, there were dozens of cats brought in for adoption and when choosing a cat/kitten most people don't know any better than to look for ones with big, long, bushy tails. So there was a chance that she would not be among those chosen for adoption. I doubt seriously if there is anything you can tell me about cats that I don't already know. Both the four-legged and two-legged kind... I've had lots of experience with both.
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The Truth Hurts wrote: <quoted text> Totally irrelevant to the conversation at hand but I just saw this and wanted to inform Ole South that Manx cats do not have tails so there was/is nothing wrong with her cat.:) Ahhh, TTH No good deed goes unpunished eh?:)
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Capricorn wrote: <quoted text> Ahhh, TTH No good deed goes unpunished eh?:) Mrs. BUTTinsky still stirring the pot... If I've learned ANYTHING from you people, it's NEVER TO TRUST ANY OF YOU. Most if not ALL APPARENT "good deeds" from any of you are only traps set out for trusting souls. It might have taken a while, but after so many times stepping innocently into such traps, I've finally learned about your ilk. So just crawl back into your hole with your buddies.
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OneWhoCares wrote: <quoted text>Nope - I was thinking more of the words "DESPERATE, DISGUSTING FILTHY WITCH" as being words you have used before. The exact same words that you have used in emails about me.
No, can't say as I have ever read that book and don't think I need to. Perhaps you should read it again and let it sink it.
If you are thinking anybody believes you are a teacher, you are delusional.
What has this to do with the case? I thought you only wanted case discussion. I have never e-mailed you. I would love case discussion, and I have tried to discuss the case with you. You don't seem to be here for that reason.
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Ole South wrote: <quoted text> Don't you think I didn't know this? The thing was, there were dozens of cats brought in for adoption and when choosing a cat/kitten most people don't know any better than to look for ones with big, long, bushy tails. So there was a chance that she would not be among those chosen for adoption. I doubt seriously if there is anything you can tell me about cats that I don't already know. Both the four-legged and two-legged kind... I've had lots of experience with both. Ole South: "She's a black and white manx and I almost didn't adopt her because she had no tail! But I felt sorry for her, think she might be put to sleep if no one adopted her, so I did." No. It sounds to me like you didn't know at all. How do you know what "most people" know or don't know about cat breeds? Take a pill why don't you. I had no idea you'd need an exorcist just because I informed you about something you apparently didn't know.
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Capricorn wrote: <quoted text> Ahhh, TTH No good deed goes unpunished eh?:) Ain't that the truth?
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Mama2JML wrote: <quoted text> I have never e-mailed you. I would love case discussion, and I have tried to discuss the case with you. You don't seem to be here for that reason. Who said you did? My exact words were:<quoted text>”Nope - I was thinking more of the words "DESPERATE, DISGUSTING FILTHY WITCH" as being words you have used before. The exact same words that you have used in emails ABOUT me”. No mention of the word TO me. Even a second grader knows the difference between the two words.
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OneWhoCares wrote: <quoted text>Who said you did?
My exact words were:<quoted text>”Nope - I was thinking more of the words "DESPERATE, DISGUSTING FILTHY WITCH" as being words you have used before. The exact same words that you have used in emails ABOUT me”.
No mention of the word TO me. Even a second grader knows the difference between the two words. I misinterpreted your post, sorry. Regardless, you have not been the recipient nor the subject of any e-mails, PMs, etc. from me.
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The Truth Hurts wrote: <quoted text> Ain't that the truth? It would appear that way :)
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