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Biz
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I have no doubt that Helgoth was murdered. I am told that even his family members believe he was murdered but they do not want the case reopened because of the pain they felt in the past. All the signs are that this was a murder, not a suicide.
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Biz wrote: I have no doubt that Helgoth was murdered. I am told that even his family members believe he was murdered but they do not want the case reopened because of the pain they felt in the past. All the signs are that this was a murder, not a suicide. Hi, Biz. I agree with you that Helgoth was murdered. And I can sympathize with family members who don't want the case re-opened because of the pain involved. But I hope LE will do the right thing and investigate it as a murder -- and a murder possibly or probably related to the JonBenet case, at that!! Even though it might be painful to them, nothing should stand in the way of the investigation into the death of an innocent child. I'm sure you agree, but thought this should be pointed out. In fact, I know how strongly you feel about getting this case solved and getting justice for JonBenet. That is why I want to make certain there is no question about it.
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Detroit, somewhere in this thread you copied the following: "The crime lab has two spots of JonBenet's blood found on the underwear she was wearing the night of the murder. Mixed in with that blood is the DNA of an unknown person. It has taken years to isolate, but forensic scientists in Colorado now have a complete DNA profile of the killer. They know the killer is a male. What they don't know is his name." Inasmuch as it is now possible for scientists to determine through DNA specific attributes of the contributor, such as hair color, possible eye color, ethnicity, age, etc., do you know if there has been any attempts to isolate these attributes from the evidentiary DNA and if so, if they have been successful?
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Since: Mar 07
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Ole South wrote: Detroit, somewhere in this thread you copied the following: "The crime lab has two spots of JonBenet's blood found on the underwear she was wearing the night of the murder. Mixed in with that blood is the DNA of an unknown person. It has taken years to isolate, but forensic scientists in Colorado now have a complete DNA profile of the killer. They know the killer is a male. What they don't know is his name." Inasmuch as it is now possible for scientists to determine through DNA specific attributes of the contributor, such as hair color, possible eye color, ethnicity, age, etc., do you know if there has been any attempts to isolate these attributes from the evidentiary DNA and if so, if they have been successful? That`s from CBS report quoted http://jonbenetramsey.pbworks.com/w/page/1168...
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Since: Mar 07
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They used a process that multiplied the DNA so reports that they don`t have any DNA to test are b.s. Yes from what I understand, they know that the DNA came from a male and the person came from caucasion ancestry. That doesn`t mean that the person has to be caucasion. He could have been the black sheep of the family with caucasion relatives.
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aussiesheila
Reservoir, Australia
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Lynette wrote: <quoted text>The Ramseys weren't thugs. Can you honestly imagine either John or Patsy grabbing a cat, killing it, mutilating it and dumping it on ST's lawn? Or John grabbing a rifle and going on a shooting spree to kill a cop? Or smearing blood on LA's door? The idea seems almost comical. Someone was definitely trying to intimidate those cops into backing off. They may have been anti-Ramsey, but they DID investigate other suspects, albeit not very thoroughly IMO. Nevertheless, it's obvious someone was getting nervous. Interesting that these events appear to coincide with Boulder Police beginning to investigate registered sex offenders in the area
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aussiesheila
Reservoir, Australia
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Old South wrote: <quoted text> I thought this is a good time to bring this thread forward and when I saw this, I saw it in a new light. Of all the coincidences Detroit has shown, I think Helgoth's cruelty in killing cats and kittens is something that should have caught my attention much sooner since I'm such a cat lover. The dead cat being left on Steve Thomas' front lawn points to Helgoth.(I wonder why Thomas didn't make this connection when he heard of Helgoth's propensity for killing cats.) And perhaps the poem author (the one who wrote the poem that mentioned dead cats and the "Offman's pew") knew more than we imagined. Now, this is a vivid account of (among other similarities) tells of a loose connection to the crime and also how horribly cruel this person was. Anyway, I haven't yet looked for the post from MeToo in which s/he predicts the case will be solved by the end of the summer, should be close by. We'll see. Old South, you only have Kenady's word that Helgoth did these things and Kenady is a person whose credibility is not all that high
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aussiesheila wrote: <quoted text>Old South, you only have Kenady's word that Helgoth did these things and Kenady is a person whose credibility is not all that high You might be right. And I can't swear to it, but I THOUGHT I had heard much of the same about Helgoth from other sources.(My memory is not at all like it onces was.)
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Henri McPhee
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Henri McPhee wrote: Bumped for Mama2JML. Thank you, Henri.
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Biz wrote: <quoted text>When a child is killed many innocent people are asked to submit DNA just to rule them out: family, friends, sex offenders who live nearby. Gigax was not implicated by MT. It was John Kenady who said he was involved. With Gigax's prior offenses he sure seemed like a good suspect. He should have been ruled out via DNA Ditto.
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deb wrote: <quoted text>I don't give a RATS A$$ as to the DNA ruling anyone out. I want the truth and the only way to reach the truth is thoroughly investigate everyone again and again. And I do not want the Ramseys railroaded - if they were involved so be it, but I want the evidence to prove whom ever did this, not have it be a circumstantial case. I couldn't agree more.
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Quasimodo wrote: Helgoth had Hi-Tec boots whose soles matched the impressions left at the scene. I've read that they weren't a common footwear at the time, like Nikes or Reeboks. He had a stun gun lying around, and a cap that read "SBTC". Plus there were a certain breed of dog hair at the scene which matched the type of dog he had. Oh yeah, and he had a taste for little girls and barbies and had a history of violence and sexual abuse. These things aren't coincidental. He was an accomplice who got scared and possibly was gonna talk, but was murdered by his accomplice, the man responsible for killing JonBenet. Interesting.
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“You Can't Fix Stupid!”
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Excellent point Aussie. And, as far as the boots go, there is no chain-of-evidence, and they nor information contained on or around them can ever be used in court against or for anyone. aussiesheila wrote: <quoted text>Old South, you only have Kenady's word that Helgoth did these things and Kenady is a person whose credibility is not all that high
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