who was the real killer

deb wrote:

Without new substantial leads, we are at a stand still. We need someone to do background checks on Santa's son, the housekeepers family and Fleet's associates.
Someone needs to call Krebs and let us know if she is for real (sane) and find out what else she knows.
Someone needs to call Fleet and find out what he thinks. His phone number is listed on the internet in Aspen - lol.(probably disconnected).
Steve Thomas writes back if you email him. So does Barbara Walters-lol-if you insult her. lol. I made a mistake of believing an email about her and quickly corrected me!!
I am still waiting to find out who DB really is - I suspect he will be arrested soon. If he is not involved with the murder, he should be writing novels - he has the most creative imagination since Stephen King!
I read the two guys have rented the Ramsey's
house. Perhaps they are returning to the scene of the crime! There are a lot of hidden spaces to hide stuff in an old house. Don't they say that the guilty return to the scene? Who else would live there?
Although, I live in a 98 yr old house in which at least one person died (naturally). In 16 years she has not revealed herself - I suspect she moved on.
Friday at 12 am midwest time (lol-makes it easy for me) I think everyone should ask the Holy Spirit to tell us who the murderer is. Then we can all report back and see if we have a consenses.

deb wrote:

There are too many friends and associates with such strange behavior that without dna or other solid evidence, or confession, it's anyone's guess.
From my reading, which is limited and obviously flawed by hearsay, etc. the following suspects seem to have the most probable motives, along with opportunity and could fit with the circumstancial evidence. Nothing new...
1. Housekeeper's family: motive: money
a. stated "aren't you afraid she might get kidnapped?"
b. stated that she didn't know the cellar was there, even though they removed the trees from there.
c. knew JonB so would have been able to lead her downstairs
d. had access to the paper
e. knew the backstairs were primarily used, knew the dog was gone
f. needed money
g. if caught in the house, could have had an excuse - wanted to drop off a gift before they left in the morning, left something behind, looking for the check, etc.
h. told mixed stories
g. home asleep in bed alone, husband slept on couch alone - but why would they admit to sleeping alone?
h. per Pam, she would say weird things(i think)
g. would have been able to get JonB downstairs because JonB trusted her and/or her husband and could have been the person who told JonB about Santa coming after Christmas.
h. would have felt comfortable offering JonB pineapple
2. Fleet & friends: motive: child porn.
a. wiped her bottom, most men would not do this if women are around to do it.
b. was seen going through John's billfold.
c. would know knot tying
d. offered her a separate plate of crab - something in it to make her sleep soundly??
e. didn't look for a light switch in the cellar.
f. Kreb's story
g. anger - apparently didn't want something in the past brought out per Pam
h. knew about the backstairs
g. had access to the paper
h. went to bed alone at 11:00, wife sat up talking?
g. odd behavior after murder
3. Merrick motive: revenge
a. stated that he was going to bring John down
b. angry about being let go because they could not
justify his salary, yet John received an $118,000 bonus.
c. he would have know about the $188,000 from his friend, CFO Tom who he was still friends with
d. Perhaps hired Helgoth to kidnap and kill JonB, and then killed Helgoth to shut him up.
e. bible verse's regarding a someone they considered a friend turning on them - this would fit Merrick.
f. had the strongest motive
g. refused to take a lie detector test
Doubts due to:
1. they probably would not have been aware of the backstairs being the primary stairway.
2. They would not have been able to have get JonB downstairs unless she was sleeping, because I do not believe she would have gone anywhere with a stranger. I do not believe she was stunned in her room.
3. Would not have known the dog was gone, but may not even have been aware that they had a dog.
4. For whatever reason,reasons we are not aware of, Thomas doesn't think there is a chance he was involved.

deb wrote:

Without new substantial leads, we are at a stand still. We need someone to do background checks on Santa's son, the housekeepers family and Fleet's associates.
Someone needs to call Krebs and let us know if she is for real (sane) and find out what else she knows.
Someone needs to call Fleet and find out what he thinks. His phone number is listed on the internet in Aspen - lol.(probably disconnected).
Steve Thomas writes back if you email him. So does Barbara Walters-lol-if you insult her. lol. I made a mistake of believing an email about her and quickly corrected me!!
I am still waiting to find out who DB really is - I suspect he will be arrested soon. If he is not involved with the murder, he should be writing novels - he has the most creative imagination since Stephen King!
I read the two guys have rented the Ramsey's
house. Perhaps they are returning to the scene of the crime! There are a lot of hidden spaces to hide stuff in an old house. Don't they say that the guilty return to the scene? Who else would live there?
Although, I live in a 98 yr old house in which at least one person died (naturally). In 16 years she has not revealed herself - I suspect she moved on.
Friday at 12 am midwest time (lol-makes it easy for me) I think everyone should ask the Holy Spirit to tell us who the murderer is. Then we can all report back and see if we have a consenses.

deb wrote:

Without new substantial leads, we are at a stand still. We need someone to do background checks on Santa's son, the housekeepers family and Fleet's associates.
Someone needs to call Krebs and let us know if she is for real (sane) and find out what else she knows.
Someone needs to call Fleet and find out what he thinks. His phone number is listed on the internet in Aspen - lol.(probably disconnected).
Steve Thomas writes back if you email him. So does Barbara Walters-lol-if you insult her. lol. I made a mistake of believing an email about her and quickly corrected me!!
I am still waiting to find out who DB really is - I suspect he will be arrested soon. If he is not involved with the murder, he should be writing novels - he has the most creative imagination since Stephen King!
I read the two guys have rented the Ramsey's
house. Perhaps they are returning to the scene of the crime! There are a lot of hidden spaces to hide stuff in an old house. Don't they say that the guilty return to the scene? Who else would live there?
Although, I live in a 98 yr old house in which at least one person died (naturally). In 16 years she has not revealed herself - I suspect she moved on.
Friday at 12 am midwest time (lol-makes it easy for me) I think everyone should ask the Holy Spirit to tell us who the murderer is. Then we can all report back and see if we have a consenses.

deb wrote:

I am still waiting to find out who DB really is - I suspect he will be arrested soon. If he is not involved with the murder, he should be writing novels - he has the most creative imagination since Stephen King!
I think everyone should ask the Holy Spirit to tell us who the murderer is. Then we can all report back and see if we have a consenses.

Victory wrote:

deb, are you suggesting we all ask the Holy Spirit who murder JonBenét at 12a.m. central time?
If so that would be 10p.m. eastern standard time?

thejuke wrote:

Hey DB,
Did you name yourself after the Bellray's song 'DETROIT BREAKDOWN?'

Victory wrote:

deb, are you suggesting we all ask the Holy Spirit who murder JonBenét at 12a.m. central time?
If so that would be 10p.m. eastern standard time?

JACK wrote:

Gink,You know the more post I read of yours,I'm Impressed with things you say. this Murder was staged and very well planned out.it's very obvious the killers planned it well in advance.and the way it was done really confused the police and other investigators.then when the Ramseys and friends and the Police screwed up the crime scene by walking through,moving things,etc.then here we are Ten years later still trying to figure out what really happened.remember Fleet was in and out of there many times.he had his chances and boy did he use it to full advantage.don't waste your time on Santa Bill it didn't happen.the killers were younger-35-50 range with some smarts.money can get you out of almost anything you do.and it can help you get things done you don't want to do yourself.but sometimes it backfires on you-I hope that is the case here.