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The Truth Hurts
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Ok...it's time. First of all, I am going to start with this. We all know that the Ramseys talked smack on the Whites and discussed their "strange behavior" with LE (and I will post that.) Here is JR blaming other people for saying FW was displaying "strange behavior:" 3 A. There were a number of people that questioned 4 the Whites' behavior to us. Why are they acting so 5 strange? 6 Q. Do you remember who those people were? This 7 item is really important. This is kind of the heart of 8 this whole interview, so work with me as much as you can, 9 please. 10 A. Well, my brother had commented on that. The 11 Westmorelands in Atlanta; the Davises; Patsy's sister, Pam 12 Paugh; the Stines. 13 Q. So far the Stines are the only ones who live in 14 Boulder; is that right? 15 A. Yeah, so far on that list. 16 Q. Who lived in Boulder? 17 A. Right. 18 Q. Anyone else in Boulder? 19 A. Not that I recall. 14 Q. Or anyone else other than Steve Miles? You 15 mentioned the Whites. 16 A. Well, that friends had commented on their 17 strange behavior. Because John and Patsy didn't notice the Whites behavior themselves even though they witnessed some it for themselves. Their friends had to tell them the behavior was strange. RIGHT.
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6 PATSY RAMSEY: He was -- and like I 7 say, I am kind of like just catching, you know, 8 wafts of these conversations. But that was my 9 first recollection. I picked up on something 10 that Fleet was not acting right. And they were 11 going to keep him from going on the private 12 plane back to Atlanta. 13 So anyway, I didn't want to think 14 too much about it, and then when we were in 15 Atlanta, I just sort of remember Priscilla 16 standing in my mother's living room, family 17 room, you know, just kind of like this and 18 saying, "well, I know what's going on" and she 19 said, "if you would give me a few minutes of 20 your time, I could let you in on some things." 21 And I turned to her and I said, 22 "Priscilla, how can you know so much?" And I 23 said, "I am the mother of this child. And I 24 know nothing." 25 TOM HANEY: What was she referring 0076 1 to? 2 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't have a clue. 3 I really, I mean, you know, so many times I wish 4 I would have taken her up on it to see what the 5 hell she was talking about. There was just her 6 -- you know, it was just this kind of, I know 7 what's going on here and you don't. And if you 8 give me a few minutes of your time, I could clue 9 you in. 10 TOM HANEY: But she didn't give you 11 a clue or-- Priscilla's behavior was strange because she obviously had something to tell Patsy, yet Patsy didn't bother to ask her what she was talking about? RIGHT.
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The Truth Hurts
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Regarding the confrontation w/Fleet in Atlanta that John swore in a depo didn't happen: 12 PATSY RAMSEY: Didn't say, didn't 13 say. So that was like the second little thing. 14 So then, let's see. We were at -- 15 we were at my parents, and we had different 16 friends who had come in from Colorado and my 17 friends in Atlanta were putting them up in homes 18 and what not, and my understanding is that Fleet 19 and Priscilla had been invited by my brother and 20 sister-in-law Jeff Ramsey to stay in their home. 21 So I was in bed, and somebody, 22 either my sister, or another friend who was 23 staying there or something, said that Jeff had 24 just called to my parents' home, and said that 25 Fleet was totally off the deep end, had like 0077 1 gotten my brother-in-law and my brother-in-law 2 is -- you think my husband is docile, my 3 brother-in-law is, you know, very docile. Non- 4 confrontational. So Fleet got hold of Jeff's 5 collar, you know, like this, in his face, you 6 know, being very confrontational. 7 TOM HANEY: Is built -- 8 PATSY RAMSEY: Sorry? 9 TOM HANEY: Is Fleet a pretty good 10 size? 11 PATSY RAMSEY: Yes, he's a large 12 man. And anyway, Jeff had called and said to my 13 dad, they are on their way to your house. Do 14 you have a gun? And I mean for Jeff Ramsey to 15 say something like this in pretty wild. So I 16 just remember, you know, somebody scooping me up 17 and Burke up and my mom and all this and we went 18 downstairs to our basement where my mother had 19 set up some temporary beds and then like, you 20 know, like thrown on the beds, like "don't 21 anybody say anything" and you know, John and my 22 dad were going to try to calm them down or 23 something. You know. Just -- 24 TOM HANEY: Okay. What do you mean 25 again, what did-- 0078 1 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't know, Jeff 2 was saying that Fleet is just crazy. He is 3 crazy, he is coming over there, I don't know 4 what's happened. You know, he's off his rocker. 5 TOM HANEY: Did he give you a clue 6 though? I mean here your good friends-- 7 PATSY RAMSEY: See, I don't know, 8 because I wasn't -- wasn't having this -- 9 TOM HANEY: The conversation? 10 PATSY RAMSEY: I am like hearing 11 this thirdhand.
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2 TOM HANEY: Okay. 3 PATSY RAMSEY: All I know is this 4 was like some big hubbub here about Fleet and 5 Priscilla are going nutso and they are coming 6 over and everybody is afraid of them and 7 da-de-da-de-da. 8 TOM HANEY: So do they come over? 9 PATSY RAMSEY: They came over. I 10 do not see them, but John I think called down or 11 something, Jeff Ramsey said he did not want them 12 staying with them. I think John Ramsey and my 13 dad somehow got them to stay in a hotel or 14 something. There in Montreux (phonetic). 15 Then my dad said, you know, I don't 16 know what day this was, all these days were 17 running together. But then my father said that 18 Priscilla called, I guess they were on their way 19 back to Colorado, she called, my dad had just 20 reamed him out, said that she didn't like what 21 she saw in Atlanta one bit. She thought that 22 everything -- that all our friends were, you 23 know, hoity-toity, rich snobs and blah, blah, 24 blah. I mean, just like crazy things. 25 I mean, you know, here we are 0080 1 mourning the death of this child, for crying out 2 loud, and she goes off on this cultural 3 ventilation or something. You know, it just 4 didn't, it didn't make sense. And then so I 5 mean my dad --(INAUDIBLE)-- so way that was 6 kind of a little incident. I sure would like to hear the Whites version of this story.
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18 PATSY RAMSEY: Oh, God, you know, I 19 just -- you know, I -- I guess in a way I look 20 at everybody as a suspect. And with this 21 erratic behavior it sounds pretty freaky to me. 22 Last night we were reading through 23 some paperwork or something, and I don't 24 remember whether somebody interviewed Fleet and 25 it was something that was like, wait a minute, 0084 1 that's (INAUDIBLE) I mean to -- but he knew -- 2 he knew so much detail about the letter. It's 3 just something about, and this has been 4 somebody, I forget who -- I am rambling. 5 Somebody had interviewed Fleet and 6 then had written up a report about their 7 findings and that he seemed to know almost word 8 for word the ransom letter and he commented 9 about how the structure of it was so well tied 10 together. I mean, I have read the ransom 11 letter, I couldn't tell you what the structure 12 was, you know. He seemed like really interested 13 or something. It seemed unusual to me. 14 So I mean, it would be a horrible 15 blow if I do find out that it was somebody that 16 was that close to us. But it was somebody and 17 there is, I guess -- I guess could be anybody. Why would it be "unusual" for Fleet to be interested in the contents of the RN, to have read it over and over and to have tried to figure it out from the "structure?" Was it unusual because Patsy and John were the parents of the murdered child and they didn't show the slightest interest in trying to figure out who wrote the note and killed their daughter?
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Is Patsy insinuating that Priscilla murdered JB because she didn't approve of the pageants? How much sense does that make? Wouldn't she have murdered Patsy for putting JB IN the pageants instead? ;) 20 TOM HANEY: Was there anything in 21 this prior behavior that looking back now seems 22 unusual? 23 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, Priscilla was 24 never crazy about me doing this whole pageant 25 with JonBenet, she thought that was just totally 0088 1 unnecessary, because she said you know, it's 2 just not the thing to do. Well, you know, I had 3 grown up doing it, I enjoyed it, I had a lot of 4 friends who had done it. I had very good 5 experience with it. So that's what I brought to 6 the table. My daughter was a performer, she was 7 beautiful, she was outgoing, and flourished in 8 that type of an environment. Daphne was not. 9 You know. 10 So Priscilla would oftentimes say 11 to me, you know, you just, you shouldn't do 12 that, you know, that's not a good thing to 13 happen. 14 I thought, you know, well, you 15 raise your children the way you do and we don't 16 all raise our children the same. So you know, 17 kind of looking back at that and think, you 18 know, did that really get to her or something.
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I think this is the worst one of all. I do not recall ever reading this before but she is actually trying to sell the cops that she was wearing Priscillas jacket: 15 PATSY RAMSEY: Looks like a little button 16 there, I guess (inaudible) button (inaudible). 17 The reason I'm looking so hard at this 18 is because Priscilla had a jacket like this. I 19 mean, until I saw this picture, I had thought 20 that I had worn my Christmas sweater to their 21 house, the little bobbly one. And then I saw 22 this picture and I said oh, I must have worn 23 that sweater to their house. 24 But then I thought, well, maybe I had 25 her jacket. I mean, you know, I don't know. I 0545 1 was just trying to figure out, this was 2 certainly the one I sent, I sent mine out there, 3 but I just want to make sure that... 4 TRIP DeMUTH: That you were wearing yours 5 on Christmas and not hers? 6 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, I mean, I could have 7 been in her house in the living room, you know, 8 what I mean, and been cold and she said here put 9 this on. I just can't remember. My point is 10 that we both had jackets similar to that. 11 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay. 12 PATSY RAMSEY: So I don't know. 13 TRIP DeMUTH: And did you buy them at the 14 same time and place? 15 PATSY RAMSEY: No, I mean, I don't know I DON'T KNOW WHEN SHE GOT ME THAT. I really don't 17 remember. FYI, I mean. 18 TRIP DeMUTH: So can you tell if that's 19 your jacket you're wearing or -- 20 PATSY RAMSEY: This one, you mean? 21 TRIP DeMUTH: Were they the exact same? 22 PATSY RAMSEY: They were pretty close, but 23 I can't, I can't really remember. 24 TRIP DeMUTH: Uh-huh (yes). 25 PATSY RAMSEY: Why I would have hers on. 0546 1 All I'm saying is mine -- first time somebody 2 asked me what I had on that day, I think I might 3 have said I had my Christmas sweater on which is 4 the bobbly -- 5 TRIP DeMUTH: Uh-huh (yes). 6 PATSY RAMSEY:-- little beaded one. And 7 then when I saw this picture, somebody showed me 8 this picture -- 9 TRIP DeMUTH: Uh-huh (yes). 10 PATSY RAMSEY:-- because they wanted the 11 clothing, I said oh, I must have worn that one, 12 so I got that one instead. I think I sent both 13 of them, actually. 14 TRIP DeMUTH: You sent both of them? 15 PATSY RAMSEY: The bobbly beaded one or 16 whatever. I think actually I -- I know I wore 17 that one on the 23rd. Can I see that one? 18 TRIP DeMUTH: Oh, sure. So the one you 19 sent us, was that hers, or yours? 20 PATSY RAMSEY: No, it was mine. I don't know if the sentence in caps is a transcript error or not but we all know that Patsy bought her own jacket herself. It also was not the same as Priscillas, nor was it purchased at the same store, so if the red fibers were consistent with her jacket, it certainly could NOT have been Priscillas jacket she was wearing. Disgusting.
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John Ramsey: 9 Q. Had you heard anybody that you knew 10 ever use those as common phrases in their speech? 11 A. Yes. 12 Q. Would you identify them? 13 A. Priscilla White used the term "fat 14 cat" in my presence. 15 Q. Any other phrases that you can 16 remember somebody using? 17 A. No. 18 Q. Did anybody in your family ever use 19 any of those phrases? 20 A. No. In contrast to this: 21 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, grow a brain, fat 22 cats. We'd heard those before. 23 MIKE KANE: Were you ever able to -- 24 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, we had some names 25 we came up with. We passed on (INAUDIBLE) our 0343 1 friends in Atlanta, "Atlanta fat cats" later in 2 that week. 3 MIKE KANE: When was that specifically? 4 JOHN RAMSEY: That was when she was back; 5 when we were back for the funeral. 6 MIKE KANE:(INAUDIBLE) friends saying that 7 about? 8 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, when we went back, Ron 9 Westmoreland had like a little reception after the 10 funeral, and some of my friends were there, and he 11 has a beautiful home in Atlanta. He makes a lot of 12 money. It's not a stretch for him to have it. It's 13 very nice. 14 My friends were around me, consoling me and trying 15 to give me advice. And to be a part of that group 16 it's the Atlanta fat cats. I can't believe LE let the Ramseys get away with so much crap. I guess IDI are right. The BPD are pretty stupid.
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The Truth Hurts wrote: I think this is the worst one of all. I do not recall ever reading this before but she is actually trying to sell the cops that she was wearing Priscillas jacket: 15 PATSY RAMSEY: Looks like a little button 16 there, I guess (inaudible) button (inaudible). 17 The reason I'm looking so hard at this 18 is because Priscilla had a jacket like this. I 19 mean, until I saw this picture, I had thought 20 that I had worn my Christmas sweater to their 21 house, the little bobbly one. And then I saw 22 this picture and I said oh, I must have worn 23 that sweater to their house. 24 But then I thought, well, maybe I had 25 her jacket. I mean, you know, I don't know. I 0545 1 was just trying to figure out, this was 2 certainly the one I sent, I sent mine out there, 3 but I just want to make sure that... 4 TRIP DeMUTH: That you were wearing yours 5 on Christmas and not hers? 6 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, I mean, I could have 7 been in her house in the living room, you know, 8 what I mean, and been cold and she said here put 9 this on. I just can't remember. My point is 10 that we both had jackets similar to that. 11 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay. 12 PATSY RAMSEY: So I don't know. 13 TRIP DeMUTH: And did you buy them at the 14 same time and place? 15 PATSY RAMSEY: No, I mean, I don't know I DON'T KNOW WHEN SHE GOT ME THAT. I really don't 17 remember. FYI, I mean. 18 TRIP DeMUTH: So can you tell if that's 19 your jacket you're wearing or -- 20 PATSY RAMSEY: This one, you mean? 21 TRIP DeMUTH: Were they the exact same? 22 PATSY RAMSEY: They were pretty close, but 23 I can't, I can't really remember. 24 TRIP DeMUTH: Uh-huh (yes). 25 PATSY RAMSEY: Why I would have hers on. 0546 1 All I'm saying is mine -- first time somebody 2 asked me what I had on that day, I think I might 3 have said I had my Christmas sweater on which is 4 the bobbly -- 5 TRIP DeMUTH: Uh-huh (yes). 6 PATSY RAMSEY:-- little beaded one. And 7 then when I saw this picture, somebody showed me 8 this picture -- 9 TRIP DeMUTH: Uh-huh (yes). 10 PATSY RAMSEY:-- because they wanted the 11 clothing, I said oh, I must have worn that one, 12 so I got that one instead. I think I sent both 13 of them, actually. 14 TRIP DeMUTH: You sent both of them? 15 PATSY RAMSEY: The bobbly beaded one or 16 whatever. I think actually I -- I know I wore 17 that one on the 23rd. Can I see that one? 18 TRIP DeMUTH: Oh, sure. So the one you 19 sent us, was that hers, or yours? 20 PATSY RAMSEY: No, it was mine. I don't know if the sentence in caps is a transcript error or not but we all know that Patsy bought her own jacket herself. It also was not the same as Priscillas, nor was it purchased at the same store, so if the red fibers were consistent with her jacket, it certainly could NOT have been Priscillas jacket she was wearing. Disgusting. LOL I think PW's jacket was green.
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realTopaz wrote: <quoted text> LOL I think PW's jacket was green. According to Patsy the two jackets were similar in color and cut but were not identical and bought at two different stores.
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What's missing from this is the transcript where John suggests that Priscilla must have a stun gun because she's a "California girl." Henri could probably produce that portion of the transcript in a New York minute....but I feel fairly confident that he won't.:(
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The Truth Hurts wrote: <quoted text> According to Patsy the two jackets were similar in color and cut but were not identical and bought at two different stores. OK thanks:D
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candy
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The question is WHY DIDN'T THE WHITES EVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? They knew who was behind this, and they've RUN at every opportunity from the Ramseys. AND Why is that THE RAMSEYS used FLEET WHITE'S HIDDEN DEPO TESTIMONY to their ENORMOUS benefit?? Fleet White was NOT their witness, AND in other court filings of his, he goes back to bashing their lawyers, etc.
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candy
East Lansing, MI
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Quoting my own post from over four years ago, quoting Lin Wood on Fleet White's COVERUP OF FAVORABLE testimony FOR the Ramseys. EXPLAIN THIS: candy Williamston, MI Reply » |Report Abuse |#82 May 26, 2007 Here's Lin Wood's exact quote on the sworn testimony only Fleet White is covering up: Lin Wood: "I would characterize Fleet White's testimony in general as being very favorable to John and Patsy Ramsey." "I have every confidence that as a factual witness, Fleet would never say anything to harm John or Patsy."
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17 The reason I'm looking so hard at this 18 is because Priscilla had a jacket like this. I 19 mean, until I saw this picture, I had thought 20 that I had worn my Christmas sweater to their 21 house, And then I saw 22 this picture and I said oh, I must have worn 23 that sweater to their house. 24 But then I thought, well, maybe I had 25 her jacket. I mean, you know, I don't know. I was just trying to figure out, this was 2 certainly the one I sent, I sent mine out there, 3 but I just want to make sure that... 4 TRIP DeMUTH: That you were wearing yours 5 on Christmas and not hers? 6 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, I mean, I could have 7 been in her house in the living room, you know, 8 what I mean, I just can't remember. 12 PATSY RAMSEY: So I don't know. ? 15 PATSY RAMSEY: No, I mean, I don't know I DON'T KNOW I really don't 17 remember. 23 I can't, I can't really remember. 25 PATSY RAMSEY: Why I would have hers on. 1 All I'm saying is mine -- first time somebody 2 asked me what I had on that day, I think I might 3 have said I had my Christmas sweater on 5 TRIP DeMUTH: Uh-huh (yes). 6 PATSY RAMSEY:-- little beaded one. And 7 then when I saw this picture, somebody showed me 8 this picture -- I said oh, I must have worn that one, 12 so I got that one instead. I think I sent both 13 of them, actually. 14 TRIP DeMUTH: You sent both of them? 15 PATSY RAMSEY: The bobbly beaded one or 16 whatever. I think actually I -- I know I wore 17 that one on the 23rd. This is a good example of Patsy's Dissociative Identity Disorder with the alters wearing their own clothes.
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candy wrote: The question is WHY DIDN'T THE WHITES EVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? Exactly! Why have they never done anything about it? Why not come forward and tell their side of things? Their silence is deafening. Fleet was always outspoken to the point of being overbearing and what his uncharacteristic silence tells me is that he has some dark skeletons in his closet and he doesn't want THAT can of worms opened up.
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The Truth Hurts wrote: 6 PATSY RAMSEY: He was -- and like I 7 say, I am kind of like just catching, you know, 8 wafts of these conversations. But that was my 9 first recollection. I picked up on something 10 that Fleet was not acting right. And they were 11 going to keep him from going on the private 12 plane back to Atlanta. 13 So anyway, I didn't want to think 14 too much about it, and then when we were in 15 Atlanta, I just sort of remember Priscilla 16 standing in my mother's living room, family 17 room, you know, just kind of like this and 18 saying, "well, I know what's going on" and she 19 said, "if you would give me a few minutes of 20 your time, I could let you in on some things." 21 And I turned to her and I said, 22 "Priscilla, how can you know so much?" And I 23 said, "I am the mother of this child. And I 24 know nothing." 25 TOM HANEY: What was she referring 0076 1 to? 2 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't have a clue. 3 I really, I mean, you know, so many times I wish 4 I would have taken her up on it to see what the 5 hell she was talking about. There was just her 6 -- you know, it was just this kind of, I know 7 what's going on here and you don't. And if you 8 give me a few minutes of your time, I could clue 9 you in. 10 TOM HANEY: But she didn't give you 11 a clue or-- Priscilla's behavior was strange because she obviously had something to tell Patsy, yet Patsy didn't bother to ask her what she was talking about? RIGHT. That has always been a sticking point for everyone but the IDI theorists. Who in the world would disregard possible information that could help, especially from a "close friend"? Perhaps she didn't want to hear what Priscilla "knew". I truly believe the Whites hold a lot of information to the case Also, here, Patsy is claiming to have "picked up on" FW's behavior, but for everything else, she was just dazed and confused with no memory, but when convenient, she is "picking up on" stuff about other people. Thanks for starting the thread
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The Truth Hurts wrote: 18 PATSY RAMSEY: Oh, God, you know, I 19 just -- you know, I -- I guess in a way I look 20 at everybody as a suspect. And with this 21 erratic behavior it sounds pretty freaky to me. 22 Last night we were reading through 23 some paperwork or something, and I don't 24 remember whether somebody interviewed Fleet and 25 it was something that was like, wait a minute, 0084 1 that's (INAUDIBLE) I mean to -- but he knew -- 2 he knew so much detail about the letter. It's 3 just something about, and this has been 4 somebody, I forget who -- I am rambling. 5 Somebody had interviewed Fleet and 6 then had written up a report about their 7 findings and that he seemed to know almost word 8 for word the ransom letter and he commented 9 about how the structure of it was so well tied 10 together. I mean, I have read the ransom 11 letter, I couldn't tell you what the structure 12 was, you know. He seemed like really interested 13 or something. It seemed unusual to me. 14 So I mean, it would be a horrible 15 blow if I do find out that it was somebody that 16 was that close to us. But it was somebody and 17 there is, I guess -- I guess could be anybody. Why would it be "unusual" for Fleet to be interested in the contents of the RN, to have read it over and over and to have tried to figure it out from the "structure?" Was it unusual because Patsy and John were the parents of the murdered child and they didn't show the slightest interest in trying to figure out who wrote the note and killed their daughter? Also, notice how Patsy called it the ransom "letter" and also claims that she had read the ransom letter after she stated that she never read the whole thing. It seems the Ramseys were the ONLY ones who showed no interest in the ransom "letter" Instead of being grateful that they had even one friend who took an interest in finding this baby killer, they take that interest and try to make it ugly and suspicious to point fingers. I also agree with "why would that be unusual"? The whole world took an interest in the ransom letter...except for the Ramseys
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The Truth Hurts wrote: I think this is the worst one of all. I do not recall ever reading this before but she is actually trying to sell the cops that she was wearing Priscillas jacket: 15 PATSY RAMSEY: Looks like a little button 16 there, I guess (inaudible) button (inaudible). 17 The reason I'm looking so hard at this 18 is because Priscilla had a jacket like this. I 19 mean, until I saw this picture, I had thought 20 that I had worn my Christmas sweater to their 21 house, the little bobbly one. And then I saw 22 this picture and I said oh, I must have worn 23 that sweater to their house. 24 But then I thought, well, maybe I had 25 her jacket. I mean, you know, I don't know. I 0545 1 was just trying to figure out, this was 2 certainly the one I sent, I sent mine out there, 3 but I just want to make sure that... 4 TRIP DeMUTH: That you were wearing yours 5 on Christmas and not hers? 6 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, I mean, I could have 7 been in her house in the living room, you know, 8 what I mean, and been cold and she said here put 9 this on. I just can't remember. My point is 10 that we both had jackets similar to that. 11 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay. 12 PATSY RAMSEY: So I don't know. 13 TRIP DeMUTH: And did you buy them at the 14 same time and place? 15 PATSY RAMSEY: No, I mean, I don't know I DON'T KNOW WHEN SHE GOT ME THAT. I really don't 17 remember. FYI, I mean. 18 TRIP DeMUTH: So can you tell if that's 19 your jacket you're wearing or -- 20 PATSY RAMSEY: This one, you mean? 21 TRIP DeMUTH: Were they the exact same? 22 PATSY RAMSEY: They were pretty close, but 23 I can't, I can't really remember. 24 TRIP DeMUTH: Uh-huh (yes). 25 PATSY RAMSEY: Why I would have hers on. 0546 1 All I'm saying is mine -- first time somebody 2 asked me what I had on that day, I think I might 3 have said I had my Christmas sweater on which is 4 the bobbly -- 5 TRIP DeMUTH: Uh-huh (yes). 6 PATSY RAMSEY:-- little beaded one. And 7 then when I saw this picture, somebody showed me 8 this picture -- 9 TRIP DeMUTH: Uh-huh (yes). 10 PATSY RAMSEY:-- because they wanted the 11 clothing, I said oh, I must have worn that one, 12 so I got that one instead. I think I sent both 13 of them, actually. 14 TRIP DeMUTH: You sent both of them? 15 PATSY RAMSEY: The bobbly beaded one or 16 whatever. I think actually I -- I know I wore 17 that one on the 23rd. Can I see that one? 18 TRIP DeMUTH: Oh, sure. So the one you 19 sent us, was that hers, or yours? 20 PATSY RAMSEY: No, it was mine. I don't know if the sentence in caps is a transcript error or not but we all know that Patsy bought her own jacket herself. It also was not the same as Priscillas, nor was it purchased at the same store, so if the red fibers were consistent with her jacket, it certainly could NOT have been Priscillas jacket she was wearing. Disgusting. She is saying that she doesn't remember if she borrowed or wore Priscilla's jacket? That's low, even for Patsy. It is so obvious that they were diverting attention to the Whites for this. But then again, the Whites were the only ones who weren't riding the Ramsey 'saint train' and this is what they got. So, when the IDI start babbling about all their friends having nothing but good things to say about them, I think it is pretty obvious why and that everyone knew from the beginning what happened when you didn't
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