The Kiss of Death to the Intruder Theory

One of our posters, with forty years of experience in medical imaging and certified in many areas, conducted this experiment on himself.

QUOTE: learnin:

<<<Folks,
Over my lunch hour, I performed the following experiment on myself. I soaked some pineapple pieces in a mixture of three tablespoons of barium which had a consistency equal to cream. I had to use barium in order to visualize the pineapple in my stomach and small intestine. Not only that, I figured there is a good chance that JBR's pineapple was in a dish of cream or milk. This was done on an empty stomach, like JBR's. I remained standing and walked around in between visualizing my digestive process.
Here is the results.

11:36: I began chewing and swallowing the pineapple and I did not chew much, choosing to swallow bigger chunks so no one can say that my chunks were smaller than JBR's.

11:38: I visualized the pineapple and barium resting in the pylorus of my stomach.

11:44: I watched as 4 chunks of pineapple exited the duodenal cap and poured into my small intestine. Once in the small intestine, these chunks raced through the first part of the small intestine with good speed.

11:50: As I visualized my stomach, I saw five or six pieces of pineapple exit my stomach. By this time,(14 minutes) two thirds of the pineapple eaten had exited my stomach. The first pieces of pineapple were far into my small intestine!

By 30 minutes, my stomach was completely empty and much of the pineapple was already in the second part of my small intestine.

Folks, this little girl was accosted within 30 minutes of eating that pineapple! Bank on it.>>>

This is the kiss of death to the intruder theory. JonBenet isn't going to sit and eat pineapple with a stranger. The pineapple found in her proximal small intestine was consistent with the bowl of pineapple on the Ramsey breakfast table - they were both fresh and both had rind on them. The bowl had Burke Ramsey's prints on it and Patsy Ramsey's. To think that JB got that pineapple any place but from that bowl is beyond ludicrous.

The Ramseys lied. Why? To distance themselves from the murder THEY committed. Like jamesons, they must have thought pineapple digests/moves much more slowly than it does.

The Ramseys thought of a lot that night, but they didn't think of everything.

This is a very important, relevant experiment, and you should send this to Chief Beckner, head of the Ramsey investigation.

However, this is still NO END to the intruder theory! There is DNA in three areas of the murdered victim's clothing that does not match anyone tested in this case. It is de facto reasonable doubt, THE CASE KILLER, as Alex Hunter called it.

I think it's very important, too and I, too, think learnin should send it to Beckner. He did what the BPD should have done almost thirteen years ago.

It's very important that learnin send this out to him. If you don't know how to contact him via email, just let me know, I'll give you an email address to contact me, and have you give some info so I know you worked in this field, and I'll give you his email address.

Here I will give you the email for free, it is on the public web page anyhow, and besides, Candy is not to be trusted with anyone's personal information.

becknerm@bouldercolorado.gov

Legal_Eagle wrote:

Here I will give you the email for free, it is on the public web page anyhow, and besides, Candy is not to be trusted with anyone's personal information.
becknerm@bouldercolorado.gov

Thanks Legal_Eagle. I was going to do the same thing myself after looking at the BPD Website this afternoon. I don't know if Candy knows learnin's identity or not, but I know I would never give her any information about me.

CSIEngland wrote:

One of our posters, with forty years of experience in medical imaging and certified in many areas, conducted this experiment on himself.
QUOTE: learnin:
<<<Folks,
Over my lunch hour, I performed the following experiment on myself. I soaked some pineapple pieces in a mixture of three tablespoons of barium which had a consistency equal to cream. I had to use barium in order to visualize the pineapple in my stomach and small intestine. Not only that, I figured there is a good chance that JBR's pineapple was in a dish of cream or milk. This was done on an empty stomach, like JBR's. I remained standing and walked around in between visualizing my digestive process.
Here is the results.
11:36: I began chewing and swallowing the pineapple and I did not chew much, choosing to swallow bigger chunks so no one can say that my chunks were smaller than JBR's.
11:38: I visualized the pineapple and barium resting in the pylorus of my stomach.
11:44: I watched as 4 chunks of pineapple exited the duodenal cap and poured into my small intestine. Once in the small intestine, these chunks raced through the first part of the small intestine with good speed.
11:50: As I visualized my stomach, I saw five or six pieces of pineapple exit my stomach. By this time,(14 minutes) two thirds of the pineapple eaten had exited my stomach. The first pieces of pineapple were far into my small intestine!
By 30 minutes, my stomach was completely empty and much of the pineapple was already in the second part of my small intestine.
Folks, this little girl was accosted within 30 minutes of eating that pineapple! Bank on it.>>>
This is the kiss of death to the intruder theory. JonBenet isn't going to sit and eat pineapple with a stranger. The pineapple found in her proximal small intestine was consistent with the bowl of pineapple on the Ramsey breakfast table - they were both fresh and both had rind on them. The bowl had Burke Ramsey's prints on it and Patsy Ramsey's. To think that JB got that pineapple any place but from that bowl is beyond ludicrous.
The Ramseys lied. Why? To distance themselves from the murder THEY committed. Like jamesons, they must have thought pineapple digests/moves much more slowly than it does.
The Ramseys thought of a lot that night, but they didn't think of everything.

First of all, you cannot run an x-ray machine and take a picture of yourself at the same time. Second of all, you would be fired for using the equipment and third, if you did actually do this, you were seeing the barium moving, not the pineapple.

No one eats pineapple with the rind on it!!

CSIEngland wrote:

I think it's very important, too and I, too, think learnin should send it to Beckner. He did what the BPD should have done almost thirteen years ago.

I did send it.

deb wrote:

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First of all, you cannot run an x-ray machine and take a picture of yourself at the same time. Second of all, you would be fired for using the equipment and third, if you did actually do this, you were seeing the barium moving, not the pineapple.

You don't know what you're talking about.

learnin wrote:

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I did send it.

Oh, that's great. Since the coroner didn't find any obstructions/inflammations, etc. in JB's stomach or intestine, I have to assume her digestion was working just fine. There's no way I believe she was asleep AFTER she ate that pineapple and no way I believe she ate it any place but at home. One of the other three Ramseys in the house gave it to her and lied about her being asleep.

CSIEngland wrote:

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Oh, that's great. Since the coroner didn't find any obstructions/inflammations, etc. in JB's stomach or intestine, I have to assume her digestion was working just fine. There's no way I believe she was asleep AFTER she ate that pineapple and no way I believe she ate it any place but at home. One of the other three Ramseys in the house gave it to her and lied about her being asleep.

Right.

Candy is right. This still doesn't dismiss the intruder theory. But I do applaud you for your efforts if they are legit.

CSIEngland wrote:

One of our posters, with forty years of experience in medical imaging and certified in many areas, conducted this experiment on himself.

Anybody believe this actually happened?

Good question FoolsGold. If she sends any factual data backing her claims up to Beckner, then yes, if not NO WAY did it happen.

CSIEngland wrote:

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Thanks Legal_Eagle. I was going to do the same thing myself after looking at the BPD Website this afternoon. I don't know if Candy knows learnin's identity or not, but I know I would never give her any information about me.

Whew! Thank heaven for that! You might as well hook up with the National Enquirer, only they'd be less scary!

koldkase wrote:

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Whew! Thank heaven for that! You might as well hook up with the National Enquirer, only they'd be less scary!

The National Enquirer having my personal details really wouldn't scare me. Candy having them definitely would.

FoolsGold wrote:

<quoted text>Anybody believe this actually happened?

Why would you question this? You've never questioned any of the bogus BS put out by Team Ramsey in 13 years, FOOL.

Certainly Beckner can determine learnin's credentials. So what do you care? Oh, wait. It's the "bugaboo" Team Ramsey MUST debunk, because it proves the Ramseys LIED about what happened that night.

Well, not to worry. Beckner isn't going to do one thing in this investigation other than give it lip service at a press conference. Without Mary Lacy to arrest bogus confessors, you disinformation spinners have quite a job finding more fake intruders now.

But just to show I'm not holding a grudge, here's a clue for you, complements of Patsy Ramsey: Smit's intruder-under-the-bed is very, very thin.

"THOMAS HANEY: This dust ruffle? PATSY RAMSEY: Well, it's not hanging very straight right there. You know, it should be falling a little more smoothly.(INAUDIBLE.) THOMAS HANEY: What did you say? PATSY RAMSEY: I say I am wondering if somebody was under that bed. That was -- THOMAS HANEY: Did you go under that bed for anything when you were packing? PATSY RAMSEY: No. I can't remember. I mean, I never had a habit of putting things under that bed. Because it was -- it sat low, kind of low board, you couldn't get much under there."

haha That Patsy, what a jokester! "He was under the bed! But I didn't put stuff there, because it was too low."

THOMAS HANEY: Did you go under that bed for anything when you were packing?
PATSY RAMSEY: No. I can't remember. I mean, I never had a habit of putting things under that bed. Because it was -- it sat low, kind of low board, you couldn't get much under there.

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No![oops, commitment to a detailed memory of packing that night] I can't remember.[oops, I said no already, and now it sounds like I'm lying, better 'splain this] I mean, I never had a HABIT of putting things under that bed.[oops, now I have to explain why I habitually did NOT put things under there, and that's why I answered "no" so quickly, if I didn't remember] Because it was --[tic toc tic toc it was what?! think! think!] it sat low, kind of low board,[oh, great, now I'm not even articulate] you couldn't get much under there.[bat my eyes--whew, he's buying it! SUCKER!]

learnin wrote:

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You don't know what you're talking about.

That's not a problem for some people.