150 Mormons Leave Church, Cite Same-Sex Marriage, More As Why

Jul 1, 2012 Full story: lezgetreal.com 126

"This feels awesome. I don't know if I would have had the courage exept in a group." Those are the words of Alison Lucas from West Jordan, Utah.

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“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#22 Jul 1, 2012
Hal wrote:
<quoted text>He is really amazingly well equipped to deal with the horrible financial mess that Obama has the country in.
Unlike DAVID MOORE who thought putting a huge fire cracker into a trombone during a big public concert was a good idea. I am sure glad you are actually HAL and NOT DAVID MOORE.
Uve

Desert Hot Springs, CA

#23 Jul 1, 2012
Hal wrote:
<quoted text>Liar, the truth is that a majority of the world's religious Jews are indeed Orthodox and the constitute a majority of Jews in nearly every country outside of North America.
You truly shame your claim of being 'raised Jewish' with your defamation, hate speech, and lies.
Really? And what skewed statistic did you read on FOX now? If I'm a liar (which I'm not)and a 'shame', then look who's calling who. YOUR a hypocritical bigoted 'embarrassment' POS to your faith!

“We are all atheists”

Since: May 11

Lewes, DE

#24 Jul 1, 2012
Jeepers. All you apologists are certaily welcome to hold onto your beliefs in an invisible sky daddy who will welcome you into some imaginary paradise after you die. But it would be an improvement if you could play nice together. "Mormons aren't real christians." "Baptists aren't real christians." "Roman catholics aren't real christians." Give it up already. Your omnipotent, all-knowing, all-powerful deity should be able to tell us the real story, right? So where is he?(I mean, "It").

I prefer reality.
Hal

Lacon, IL

#25 Jul 1, 2012
Uve wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? And what skewed statistic did you read on FOX now? If I'm a liar (which I'm not)and a 'shame', then look who's calling who. YOUR a hypocritical bigoted 'embarrassment' POS to your faith!
Do the math, dope.

Reform and Conservative are mostly North American phenomena. Both are nearly non-existent elsewhere. It is true that many on this earth that identify as Jewish are not religious.

Of religious Jews, the Orthodox remain a huge majority. http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/world-...

I don't know what on earth you think this has to do with Mormons, who are a larger group and have no direct relationship.

“ WOOF !”

Since: Oct 10

Coolidge, AZ

#26 Jul 1, 2012
Frisbee wrote:
<quoted text>
While they are a different kind of crazy, you both have the same imaginary friend.
No, they don't, which shows just how ignorant you are.

The Mormon "god" is NOT the same God that ALL Christians, ALL Jews, and ALL Muslims worship. Mormons worhip a false "god" or "gods". Many claim they are polytheistic.
Uve

Desert Hot Springs, CA

#27 Jul 1, 2012
Hal wrote:
<quoted text>Do the math, dope.
Reform and Conservative are mostly North American phenomena. Both are nearly non-existent elsewhere. It is true that many on this earth that identify as Jewish are not religious.
Of religious Jews, the Orthodox remain a huge majority. http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/world-...
I don't know what on earth you think this has to do with Mormons, who are a larger group and have no direct relationship.
So now your going to categorize to skew the statistic in your favor..typical. You originally made the generalization (like you do everything)of ALL Jews. Your and idiot and not worth the time for rebuttal. Oh, BTW your still an embarrassment.
Hoodathunkit

Mount Gilead, OH

#28 Jul 1, 2012
Hal wrote:
<quoted text>If you are speaking of religious Jews, you have repeatedly been proven to be a liar on this subject. A majority of the world's religious Jews are Orthodox and clearly support the Torah's commands against homosexual acts, as well as centuries of Jewish tradition and practice supporting this.
Reform is a departure from Jewish teaching now limited mostly to North America.
What you thought any of this had to do with the larger Mormon religious escapes me.
Short memory? You're the one who brought up Jews. Over 50% of the world's Jewish population lives in the US and most aren't Orthodox (roughly only 13% of American Jews are Orthodox). Roughly 35% of the world's Jews live in Israel and most are not Orthodox (roughly 20-25% of Israeli Jews are Orthodox). Incidently, Israel has many rights established for GLBTs.
Hal

Lacon, IL

#29 Jul 1, 2012
Hoodathunkit wrote:
<quoted text>
Short memory? You're the one who brought up Jews. Over 50% of the world's Jewish population lives in the US and most aren't Orthodox (roughly only 13% of American Jews are Orthodox). Roughly 35% of the world's Jews live in Israel and most are not Orthodox (roughly 20-25% of Israeli Jews are Orthodox). Incidently, Israel has many rights established for GLBTs.
Antisemitic bigot, are you aware that many Jews are atheists?

Of religious Jews, a majority are Orthodox. I gave you statistics. Reform and Conservative are mostly a US phenomenon today. Many recognize them as apostates. Most of the rest of the world's religious Jews and in fact Orthodox, and of course, the Orthodox were all that existed until Reform and Conservative incorporated ideas like those from the liberal Protestantism.

Now, just what did you think this had to do with the thread topic, dealing with a much larger and growing world religion?
Hal

Lacon, IL

#30 Jul 1, 2012
Uve wrote:
<quoted text>
So now your going to categorize to skew the statistic in your favor..typical. You originally made the generalization (like you do everything)of ALL Jews. Your and idiot and not worth the time for rebuttal. Oh, BTW your still an embarrassment.
You are of course a ridiculous liar. I never stated anything except that, correctly, the Orthodox constitute a majority of the world's religious Jews.

Personally, I don't consider atheists born of Jewish parents to even be Jewish. Someone who espouses homosexuality also is in direct rebellion against centuries of Jewish practice and tradition.
Hoodathunkit

Mount Gilead, OH

#31 Jul 1, 2012
Hal wrote:
<quoted text>Do the math, dope.
Reform and Conservative are mostly North American phenomena. Both are nearly non-existent elsewhere. It is true that many on this earth that identify as Jewish are not religious.
Of religious Jews, the Orthodox remain a huge majority. http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/world-...
I don't know what on earth you think this has to do with Mormons, who are a larger group and have no direct relationship.
Nowhere on that site does it make any claim that Orthodox Jews are the majority.

“We are all atheists”

Since: May 11

Lewes, DE

#32 Jul 1, 2012
See what I mean? All these people label themselves with the same name (christian) and all they do is shout and argue with each other about who is right, who has the right religion. For millenia, wars have been fought over this, millions have been killed.

All I can do is blip over their pathetic comments without reading them. I think they are all pathetic and delusional, but their delusions have them ready to kill others who don't share exactly the same fantasy.
Uve

Desert Hot Springs, CA

#33 Jul 1, 2012
Hal wrote:
<quoted text>You are of course a ridiculous liar. I never stated anything except that, correctly, the Orthodox constitute a majority of the world's religious Jews.
Personally, I don't consider atheists born of Jewish parents to even be Jewish. Someone who espouses homosexuality also is in direct rebellion against centuries of Jewish practice and tradition.
You made the generalization in your first post moron. Yet Again; you make judgmental generalizations and assumptions, then resort to name calling.- That's exactly what an Asstroll does.
Hoodathunkit

Mount Gilead, OH

#34 Jul 1, 2012
Hal wrote:
<quoted text>Antisemitic bigot, are you aware that many Jews are atheists?
Of religious Jews, a majority are Orthodox. I gave you statistics. Reform and Conservative are mostly a US phenomenon today. Many recognize them as apostates. Most of the rest of the world's religious Jews and in fact Orthodox, and of course, the Orthodox were all that existed until Reform and Conservative incorporated ideas like those from the liberal Protestantism.
Now, just what did you think this had to do with the thread topic, dealing with a much larger and growing world religion?
First: you are confusing Atheism with being non-religious. While a large number of Jews consider themselves to be non-religious, they still believe in God. The site gives statisitcs on religious Jews vs non-religious Jews; it does not give any statistics on Orthodox Jews vs non-Orthodox Jews. You are trying to use the statistics on the site to make a claim that the statistics don't support or attempt to support. The fact is that Orthodox Jews are a minority amongst the Jewish communities in both the US and Israel.
Hal

Lacon, IL

#35 Jul 1, 2012
Hoodathunkit wrote:
<quoted text>
First: you are confusing Atheism with being non-religious. While a large number of Jews consider themselves to be non-religious, they still believe in God. The site gives statisitcs on religious Jews vs non-religious Jews; it does not give any statistics on Orthodox Jews vs non-Orthodox Jews. You are trying to use the statistics on the site to make a claim that the statistics don't support or attempt to support. The fact is that Orthodox Jews are a minority amongst the Jewish communities in both the US and Israel.
You are of course lying if you are, as I was, referring to affiliated religious Jews. That is basically the way any other religion is viewed. Religiously speaking, someone who doesn't believe in the basics of Judaism is not a religious Jew. Of course, that claim could be made against most Reform "Jews."

Now, what on earth did you think this has to do with the thread topic, dealing with a larger and growing religion, instead of a declining sect.
Livinginthelando fcrazy

Ava, MO

#36 Jul 1, 2012
Hal wrote:
I wonder how long this sort of horribly bigoted article would stand if the religious group being defamed and misrepresented were Jewish.

The Mormon Church is one of the very fastest growing in both America and the world. 150 supposedly leaving really isn't much of a demonstration versus a total population of over 15 million.
Agree. Not even remotely news worthy.
Jesus Latter Day Taint

Souderton, PA

#37 Jul 1, 2012
qwerty26 wrote:
Jeepers. All you apologists are certaily welcome to hold onto your beliefs in an invisible sky daddy who will welcome you into some imaginary paradise after you die. But it would be an improvement if you could play nice together. "Mormons aren't real christians." "Baptists aren't real christians." "Roman catholics aren't real christians." Give it up already. Your omnipotent, all-knowing, all-powerful deity should be able to tell us the real story, right? So where is he?(I mean, "It").
I prefer reality.
I you cannot distinguish between wacky, mainstream religions and the really far out instances started by con men, then you simply don't know enough about what Mormons (or Scientologists) believe.

You get a different and far more odious level of community wide social and religious control with the cult like ones than you do with the routine, Jesus tribes. And that's fact.
Pam

Grove City, PA

#38 Jul 1, 2012
Far more than this are leaving PCUSA and will continue to leave PCUSA as they change the rules to allow gays to be pastors and very likely allow same-sex marriage in their churches.
Jesus Latter Day Taint

Souderton, PA

#39 Jul 1, 2012
Hal wrote:
<quoted text>You are of course a ridiculous liar. I never stated anything except that, correctly, the Orthodox constitute a majority of the world's religious Jews.
You insane, lying filth. Your sexually sick ideas about who is a Jew or not doesn't affect who is a Jew. It doesn't matter if they're largely secular. So are a lot of Christians. They're still Christians. More Christian than you are, that's for sure.

Most Jews are not the crazy Orthodox kind. Period.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#40 Jul 1, 2012
Hal wrote:
<quoted text>You are of course lying if you are, as I was, referring to affiliated religious Jews. That is basically the way any other religion is viewed. Religiously speaking, someone who doesn't believe in the basics of Judaism is not a religious Jew. Of course, that claim could be made against most Reform "Jews."
Now, what on earth did you think this has to do with the thread topic, dealing with a larger and growing religion, instead of a declining sect.
Gosh, I don't know, but stay out of PEKIN! What about the CHILDREN!?

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#41 Jul 1, 2012
Pam wrote:
Far more than this are leaving PCUSA and will continue to leave PCUSA as they change the rules to allow gays to be pastors and very likely allow same-sex marriage in their churches.
Any thing would look better than YOUR dreary wedding. Really, a white wedding gown? Nothing like 30 yards of tulle to cover up a big fat ass and pendulous belly, however.

I've seen your wedding photos and they remind me of Jabba the Hut in organdy and a veil!

And a reception, at International House of Pancakes? It was cute when you cut the Rootie Tootie fresh and fruity pancaked dish.

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