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If Jehovah, the god of the Jews, inspired men to write the old testament … which god inspired men to write the new testament?

If you ask yourselves this question ... you will see the lie!

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Much meddling of words occurred.
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Jehovah

When the Masoretes added vowel pointings (niqqud) to the text of the Hebrew Bible around the 8th century CE, they gave the word YHVH vowels very similar to that of Adonai. Tradition claims this is to remind the reader to say Adonai instead.

Later medieval Christian Biblical scholars took this vowel substitution for the actual spelling of YHVH and transliterated the name of God literally as Jehovah. Its use became widespread in Christendom. It was also eventually used in the name of a millenarian[10] restorationist[11][12] denomination[13] with nontrinitarian beliefs distinct from mainstream Christianity, Jehovah's Witnesses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_...

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Each group idolized the human-created name of their imaginary god, or gods.

Once started, there was no stopping the practise.

And we are where we today because some ancient nonsensical humans had nothing better in their mental possessions than to bank on myths saving them ... for better or for worse in imaginary hereafters.

What a shame!
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June VanDerMark wrote:
If Jehovah, the god of the Jews, inspired men to write the old testament … which god inspired men to write the new testament?
If you ask yourselves this question ... you will see the lie!
That's some wild stuff June.You and your little adventures!

Sorry I haven't been able to read your interesting comments as I have been out from behind the desk today on on one of my own adventures.

I actually did some manual labor with my hands!

We here in America have what we call a 'Money scrap reception office' I unloaded some scrap iron,and made quite a small some of cash!

A fine pack of Ball Park Franks will be my supper tonight I warrent.

And it feels so manly to earn one's keep.

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Ink wrote:
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Sweet
They play circus music in churches? Sweet:-)

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Ink wrote:
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Why don't you show something that was written around the time of the bible or before. Then I can see how the writer's of the bible copy those books. Something written in 1800's doesn't count.
actually june is quite correct. Jesus is one of many saviors. Just the one you happen to believe in. Sort of. Daystorm? Despite his rants of what a good christian he is he ignores most of what his savior had to say preferring instead to lean more on the Pharisees of Jesus' day. A more apt description of daystorm's religion would be archaic jew but whatever. Rather reminds me of the good Rev Fred Phelps. Another "good christian". God save me from your followers:-)

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Svaha wrote:
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Daystorm? Despite his rants of what a good christian he is he ignores most of what his savior had to say preferring instead to lean more on the Pharisees of Jesus' day.
According to Jewish dogma, the Pharisees were not the traitors.

It fits for my belief from what I have studied that the ex-Jew Catholics were the traitors.

DayStorm's beliefs are the closest to the beliefs of the first Christians who were Catholic. They were not nice people ... or kind people. They were brutal, cruel beasts ... worse in their behaviors than the animals of the forest, and the Jesus-dogma was their successful lie!
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Jewish Virtual Library

Pharisees, Sadducees, and Essenes
By Mitchell G. Bard

The Pharisees

The most important of the three were the Pharisees because they are the spiritual fathers of modern Judaism.

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June VanDerMark wrote:
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According to Jewish dogma, the Pharisees were not the traitors.
It fits for my belief from what I have studied that the ex-Jew Catholics were the traitors.
DayStorm's beliefs are the closest to the beliefs of the first Christians who were Catholic. They were not nice people ... or kind people. They were brutal, cruel beasts ... worse in their behaviors than the animals of the forest, and the Jesus-dogma was their successful lie!
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Jewish Virtual Library
Pharisees, Sadducees, and Essenes
By Mitchell G. Bard
The Pharisees
The most important of the three were the Pharisees because they are the spiritual fathers of modern Judaism.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/H ...
Fire and brimstone but only for other people.

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Svaha wrote:
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actually june is quite correct. Jesus is one of many saviors.
Thank you.

If the history of the many savior-gods is incorrect, then the history of Jesus being the one and only savior-god is also fair game for scrutiny as being incorrect.

I believe religion was all based on imagination, and the dogmas of one group are no more secured to fact than the dogmas of another group.

The mental games people play with religious imagery no doubt brings vast amounts of self-hypnotic type of pleasure to those who entertain the thoughts. But thoughts are still ONLY thoughts, and from my perspective, those in religion have by far exceeded to commit more harm, than ever they bestowed kindness on others when opinions conflicted with their own opinions.

All too often, their minds were completely closed to new ideas.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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TheSanduskyDoctrine wrote:
<quoted text> When you get off the dope and alcohol and finish with your pornography expedition tonight,
Sit around and marvel at how STUPID, ILLITERATE, SH*T FOR BRAINS ATHEIST TRASH, WAS AROUND for MILLIONS of YEARS,
And never managed to scratch 'i r atheist' in a WET PATCH of MUD
But Israelite-God monotheists came along and in FIVE THOUSAND SHORT YEARS took your STUPID,*CERTIFIED AS* BUG EATING, SKINS-WEARING asses
From living in a HUT with a GOAT
To WRITING; to READING and METALLURGY and THE MOST CHRISTIAN EMPIRE in HISTORY has you USING our ELECTRONIC SPACE AGE as a PLATFORM to OBJECT to how EASILY we EVOLVED PAST your
Stupid
In a hut with a goat living
Asses.
You're HICKS: whose GREAT CIVILIZATION was the SOVIET UNION: it ALSO on the BACK of the CHRISTIANS BEFORE IT and NOW, since their daughters are SELLING THEMSELVES INTO PROSTITUTION to GET AWAY from ATHEIST TRASH,
Your compatriots in STUPIDITY are STILL TRYING to REBOOT ATHEISM AGAIN.
After it BROKE the Russias like a DRY STICK.
YOU go LOOK for EVIDENCE of your CIVILIZATIONAL SKILLS on the RADAR PROOF, ELECTRONIC SPACE-AGE INTERNET we CHRISTIANS INSTALLED after: YOU ADMIT: YOUR STUPID ASSES had been DRINKING OUT of MUD HOLES for M.I.L.L.I.O.N.S. Of Y.E.A.R.S.
And we'll sit here and wait for you to get back with news that CERN just discovered you HICKS are MISSING 96% of the UNIVERSE when WE TOLD YOU: OUR GOD TOLD US THAT,
5,000 YEARS AGO when he popped out and said 'PSST! IT'S A SIMULATOR: WE SEE YOU YOU CAN'T SEE US!"
You atheists are the most MASSIVELY SELF-OWNING DIPTARD INTELLECTUAL GHETTO-dwellers in HISTORY:
YOU ADMIT IT: MILLIONS and MILLIONS of YEARS: and NOT even a WAY to scratch your miserable monkey name in the mud.
Pfft.
BOY! Ya sure is a hateful lil' bitch ain'cha? An ya really don't that "Darth Vader" uniform neither Jesuit 99.. I bet'cha yer folks done beat ya regular like afore the dump'd yer sorry azz on the dump called "Abrums Nation".
Oh, BTW-I ain't no athiest neither-I jist ain't suffer'n from them "induced delusions" like you is sis.
I reckon you ain't been 'round the world ta see jist how much more advanced in technology and social harmony them folks preceed'n yer divisive cult wuz neither.
An if'n yer gonna use them "big" words,'least know what they means, an try ta use 'em in a way that they makes some sense-what means{{here comes a "big" one fer ya}}-(in proper context).

Sure wished ya would wear pantaloons under that costume o' yer's, so's we wouldn't haft'a go 'round ahind ya an clean up all that sour poop what ya leaves(it's kinda nasty-ya know).

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Svaha wrote:
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Fire and brimstone but only for other people.
ALWAYS.

Observe the sickinging Fred Phelps, who perceives himself as a wonder to a god while he promotes the idea that "God HATES fags!"

Jerry Falwell was not one bit different, except he used more slime in his sermons.

The pope, with his blather about gays being intrinsically evil when they have sexual relationships, is enough to gag anyone who knows the history of the pope.

Despicable creatures hiding in the pages of an old mouldy book that is claimed to radiate holiness at the very study of its words.

My guess is, there is no god to help anyone. It's up to us to create a better world.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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Svaha wrote:
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didn't his Jesus say he already HAS his reward?
If you are speaking "specifically" of "jesus" then yes- after all he was his own god in the 3rd person...was he not?(as the story relates)
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Neighbor of Peaches wrote:
Anybody seen my neighbor?
Last I heard she was resting in the presence of the Lord.

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June VanDerMark wrote:
The terms "Thy God Elohim" and "The Lord Jehovah" indicates to me that at one time, Jehovah was perceived as the savior that came to earth to give the message to the Jews that they were god's chosen few.
But maybe I am wrong in that assessment.
All ideas are welcome.
To question and debate is to learn, that history, no matter how persuasive, must always be a matter of question, rather than assumed to be fact.
Humans wrote much nonsense from many different opinions.
We can believe whatever suits us, but that doesn't mean that what we believe has any association with truth.
The god of Abrum was Enlil(thats who told him of the "new nation").
The god of Adamu and Noah was Enki.
Enlil being the "hateful"(El) and Enki being the "kind"(Jah/Yah).
They take turns interfering in the affairs of the "Nation of Abrum".
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Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>The god of Abrum was Enlil(thats who told him of the "new nation").
The god of Adamu and Noah was Enki.
Enlil being the "hateful"(El) and Enki being the "kind"(Jah/Yah).
They take turns interfering in the affairs of the "Nation of Abrum".
Where did you come up with that load?

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Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>The god of Abrum was Enlil(thats who told him of the "new nation").
The god of Adamu and Noah was Enki.
Enlil being the "hateful"(El) and Enki being the "kind"(Jah/Yah).
They take turns interfering in the affairs of the "Nation of Abrum".
It's all "Greek" to me.

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If human words had never been invented ... there would be no so-called holy books filled with blathering nonsense.

People would still kill each other, but they would have no NEED to attach such ridiculous stories to WHY they feel a need to kill each other.

Century after century humans used gods as scapegoats to try to hide human nature in something holy ... or to the other extreme ... evil. Well, human nature simply is what it is. There are times when humans can be kind ... but survival surrounded by physical and emotional comforts, all too often, takes precedence over kindness.

And that is my concept of truth.

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Peach Boi wrote:
<quoted text> Where did you come up with that load?
It was there in cuneiform and sanskrit, and in your own books.

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June VanDerMark wrote:
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It's all "Greek" to me.
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If human words had never been invented ... there would be no so-called holy books filled with blathering nonsense.
People would still kill each other, but they would have no NEED to attach such ridiculous stories to WHY they feel a need to kill each other.
Century after century humans used gods as scapegoats to try to hide human nature in something holy ... or to the other extreme ... evil. Well, human nature simply is what it is. There are times when humans can be kind ... but survival surrounded by physical and emotional comforts, all too often, takes precedence over kindness.
And that is my concept of truth.
I said something similar quite a while back.

We would be better off using telepathy...There would be no lying or deceit, nor misunderstanding of language or intent.
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Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>It was there in cuneiform and sanskrit, and in your own books.
I read the whole bible an it wasn't in there. Can you provide any links?

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Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>I said something similar quite a while back.
We would be better off using telepathy...There would be no lying or deceit, nor misunderstanding of language or intent.
Human nature and telepathy would be quite a mixture.

"SO!!!... You want to kill me ... HUH???"

"OH OH! I shouldn't have allowed THAT thought to enter my mind. Now she knows the truth! This mind-reading isn't all it's cracked up to be."

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