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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>But you're slinging pigshit before intellects...
your not even close to being intellectual...you get slammed in every thread you post in ...

if you could really think you would never type again without it.

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woodtick said.." Stellar doesn't care about whose feelings he hurts."

Really wooden schtick? Only half right. I don't care WHO you are.

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StellarKnight wrote:
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your not even close to being intellectual...you get slammed in every thread you post in ...
if you could really think you would never type again without it.
Really? please post these examples of where i "got slammed". It should be funny to watch you weasle out of this one...

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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People didn't vote on a "right" they voted to clarify a right. "Gay" people already possess the civil right to marry. Simply because some of them do not wish to marry the type of people to who the law says they can, does not meant they cannot marry in the first place.
Oh Brother.....another idiot who believes that somehow a Gay man(who isn't attracted to women)would actually decide to marry a woman just because he wanted to be married........WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH JUST ALLOWING A GAY MAN TO MARRY THE GAY MAN OF HIS CHOOSING? or ALLOWING A LESBIAN TO MARRY THE LESBIAN WOMAN OF HER CHOOSING? I mean didn't you get to marry the person of your choosing? or did someone FORCE you to marry just anyone because they happen to be of the opposite-sex?

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StellarKnight wrote:
woodtick said.." Stellar doesn't care about whose feelings he hurts."
Really wooden schtick? Only half right. I don't care WHO you are.
When did i say that? In what context? Please refreash my memory with a copy of that post.

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Drew Smith wrote:
Do you think that it's acceptable for laws to discriminate on the basis of gender?
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Because?
Sorry buddy,rereading my post I can see the confusion I lead you to! What I was agreeing with was it was indeed a violation of the of the due process clause to discriminate on any basis male or female! I hope that clarify's my position for you! And that the Loving decision is a living document and does apply to marriage equality in every way shape and form! ;)

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Really? please post these examples of where i "got slammed". It should be funny to watch you weasle out of this one...
I do believe that boy's dip stick ain't quite touching his OIL!All one need do is to go to the APA WEB sight and see that the DSM was indeed changed in 1973 and it declassified homosexuality as a mental condition as it did not nor never has fit their criteria of a psychosis! Gays do lead normal lives and contribute to society,their only difference being they are attracted to members of the same sex! It was changed because the previous B.S. was there because of bigotry and religious crap! LOL
Why the APA changed it's classification in 1973
http://ralliance.org/TVC_APA.html

A study that shows why gay's are every bit as mentally healthy as heteros and why!
www.apa.org/research/action/gay.aspx
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Bringmedinner wrote:
Gays have made people anti-gay.
Jews made people anti-semitic? Jews prompted Hitler's activities? Blacks made people racist? Blacks prompted slavery?

It's like you have a sickness that makes you into a puppet of hatred.
Bringmedinner wrote:
Being anti-gay is not pleasant; when fighting the depraved, one sometimes get dirty.
Here's your problem: "fighting the depraved." Nothing in your power will change that they're not depraved; moreover, YOU LYING ABOUT IT EVERY SINGLE DAY makes you look so dishonorable and so hateful -- so *NOT* moral and so *NOT* virtuous, in fact -- that no one sensible can be troubled to listen to your sickness.
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This doesn't make the fight less worthwhile.
It's really not winnable. You cannot *change who they are*; anyone sensible can point to someone like you as the SOURCE of the hatred and the problems. Your claim otherwise is fooling no one except people *exactly like you*, who are invested in the same hatred.
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Homosexual behavior and propaganda should once again be illegal.
Everything about your post LEGITIMIZES the behavior of pro-gay people when they attack someone like you, denounce you, and even call you names. ALL you have done in this post, like a sick and unrepentant rapist, is call them names and decree that they should have absolutely no rights.
Bringmedinner wrote:
All it renders in society is more drugs, more disease and more distemper.
You sound like racists of the 1800s who actually believed black people were subhuman. You also sound like walking, talking filth.
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One cannot deny the disgusting history of activist gays worldwide.
I am denying it here and now, because I just read a post from someone who sounds like CHARLES MANSON, but I'm supposed to believe you are "moral." This is beyond a laugh; it's cause to label you a danger to society.
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Horatio Caine wrote:
I believe the sources we are quoting are governments sources but you know that.
You people pretend to be "moral" but you never, never, never! stop! lying! I challenge *ANYONE* reading this to *PLUG YOUR HEADLINES* into google, and you will get:

lifesitenews

a. virulently. antigay. site.

I *watched myself* plug the headlines into google, and that is the hit I got.

Why the hell would you lie when ANYONE here can follow my instructions and *see that what I say is 100% true*? Do you have a mental illness? Christ almighty. This has gone beyond all reason anymore; you people have a sickness that I believe *no one* can help you with. No one.
Horatio Caine wrote:
If what you were saying was true that means the CDC, FDA, FBI, D.O.J., Multiple state health departments. multiple universities and at least 6 other countries governments are all lying on Gays. We know whose lying don''t we?
You are *manipulating* what happened and you are *lying* about it. I read the post, plugged the headlines into google -- I *dare anyone* on this board to do so -- and got:

lifesitenews

a virulently antigay site.

I know you know this is true and I know you know you're *lying* about what happened, because all you people do is act *so amoral and void of a moral code* that it's like you're sociopaths.
Horatio Caine wrote:
This technique just doesn't work anymore! You would have better luck calling people homophobes and bigots!
Here the CDC link you so readily deny:
For more information visit the CDC website here.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/HIVIncide ...
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No, deliberate and fully knowing liar,

HERE is the headline:

California Homosexual Organization Admits HIV/AIDS is “Gay Disease”

Plug it into google. I *dare* anyone, from nose to nose, from me to you, to plug that into google. Triple-dare you.

HERE is the next headline:

CDC: Homosexual men account for 61% of new HIV infections but only 2% of population

Plug it into google. I *dare* anyone, from nose to nose, from me to you, to plug that into google. Triple-dare you.

Weird. I got exactly the same results again:

lifesitenews

is the top hit for both articles.

Why do you deny *what anyone here can reproduce with a google search in two seconds*? Why are you unable to change GOOGLE ITSELF and change the results of the searches I just reproduced for the

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Two headlines:

California Homosexual Organization Admits HIV/AIDS is “Gay Disease”

CDC: Homosexual men account for 61% of new HIV infections but only 2% of population

1. Plug each into google.
2. Use eyes in head to view first source on google.
3. Read source name of first google source.
4. Result: lifesitenews.

lifesitenews = virulently, viciously antigay web site

But hey, feel free to differ. Go take this TO COURT and cite LIFESITENEWS as your web source for this information. I dare you.
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Horatio Caine wrote:
Here is the FDA link:
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FDA: Gay Men Still Banned from Donating Blood Over Documented Risk Concerns
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WASHINGTON, D.C.,– Despite attempts by pro-homosexual advocates to paint the homosexual lifestyle as just another, normal, and healthy lifestyle choice, the FDA has renewed its 1983 policy that gay men cannot donate blood, due to the high-risk nature of living an active homosexual lifestyle.
This past Wednesday the FDA stated that, despite mounting opposition to the policy, it will for medical reasons continue to uphold its ban on men who live or who have lived an active homosexual life from donating blood.
According to the FDA, the ban is in place because,“A history of male-to-male sex is associated with an increased risk for the presence of and transmission of certain infectious diseases, including HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.”
The FDA policy relating to homosexual men is unique in its severity. While there is a lengthy list of criteria by which a potential donor may be deferred from donating blood (such as visiting particular African countries), such bans usually expire after a certain period of time. The ban on homosexual men, however, applies to any man who has ever had sex with another man, even once, subsequent to 1977.
The Administration, however, argues that the strictness of the ban is justified, pointing out that the “policy is intended to protect all people who receive blood transfusions from an increased risk of exposure to potentially infected blood and blood products.”
Some, however, are arguing that the FDA’s policy is discriminatory against homosexual men. Arthur Caplan, in an editorial for NBC6 argues that new testing technologies alleviate any fear that patients may contract AIDS by receiving a tainted transfusion.“At one time, long ago, the gay-blood ban may have made sense. But it no longer does,” he said.
“If a man has sex with a high risk woman, he’s allowed back into the donation pool after 12 months,” complained Joel Ginsberg, the executive director of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association.“If he has safe sex with another man, he’s banned for life.”
Recognizing that the area of homosexuality is a controversial realm, however, with pro-homosexual activists on the watch for any signs of discrimination, the FDA responded to accusations of discrimination in its updated official policy in the matter. The “deferral policy is based on the documented increased risk of certain transfusion transmissible infections, such as HIV, associated with male-to-male sex and is not based on any judgment concerning the donor’s sexual orientation,” reads the FDA’s policy.
“Surveillance data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicate that men who have sex with men and would be likely to donate have a HIV prevalence that is at present over 15 fold higher than the general population, and over 2000 fold higher than current repeat blood donors (i.e., those who have been negatively screened and tested) in the USA.”
Dr. Robertson Davenport, who is an associate professor of pathology at the University of Michigan Hospital, agrees with the decision of the FDA.“The data are clear that men who engage in sexual contact with other men, as a whole, have a significantly higher risk of HIV,” he said.“Given our testing is not perfect, we will increase the risk to patients.”
A number of European countries have similar bans pertaining to homosexual man. Canada also forbids homosexual men from donating blood, due to similar concerns.
http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Blo...
Go see google news and you can find hundreds of links. They all say exactly the same thing:

Two California courts have struck down proposition 8.

Do you *respect* that decision?

If YOU do not *respect* that decision,*then no one pro-gay respects the decision of the FDA* in this matter.

The choice is yours.
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Horatio Caine wrote:
Here is the FDA link:
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FDA: Gay Men Still Banned from Donating Blood Over Documented Risk Concerns
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WASHINGTON, D.C.,– Despite attempts by pro-homosexual advocates to paint the homosexual lifestyle as just another, normal, and healthy lifestyle choice, the FDA has renewed its 1983 policy that gay men cannot donate blood, due to the high-risk nature of living an active homosexual lifestyle.
Go see google news and you can find hundreds of links. They all say exactly the same thing:

Two California courts have struck down proposition 8.

Do you *respect* that decision?

If YOU do not *respect* that decision,*then no one pro-gay respects the decision of the FDA* in this matter.

The choice is yours.

We can do this all day. You can *actually find* headlines which say TRUTHFUL things and (THIS NEXT PART IS KEY) represent them in a TRUTHFUL manner; I can destroy your "logic" by painting the picture from the other side on identical grounds.

Wanna play?

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hi hi wrote:
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Jews made people anti-semitic? Jews prompted Hitler's activities? Blacks made people racist? Blacks prompted slavery?
It's like you have a sickness that makes you into a puppet of hatred.
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Here's your problem: "fighting the depraved." Nothing in your power will change that they're not depraved; moreover, YOU LYING ABOUT IT EVERY SINGLE DAY makes you look so dishonorable and so hateful -- so *NOT* moral and so *NOT* virtuous, in fact -- that no one sensible can be troubled to listen to your sickness.
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It's really not winnable. You cannot *change who they are*; anyone sensible can point to someone like you as the SOURCE of the hatred and the problems. Your claim otherwise is fooling no one except people *exactly like you*, who are invested in the same hatred.
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Everything about your post LEGITIMIZES the behavior of pro-gay people when they attack someone like you, denounce you, and even call you names. ALL you have done in this post, like a sick and unrepentant rapist, is call them names and decree that they should have absolutely no rights.
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You sound like racists of the 1800s who actually believed black people were subhuman. You also sound like walking, talking filth.
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I am denying it here and now, because I just read a post from someone who sounds like CHARLES MANSON, but I'm supposed to believe you are "moral." This is beyond a laugh; it's cause to label you a danger to society.
Bringmedinner just makes shit up as he goes. he is not to be taken seriously. obviously no-one in his life does for him to invent this fantasy world of his.

you should read some of the doosies he has posted on other pages. a true whack-job in the flesh...
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WasteWater wrote:
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It's just a bunch of BS. I scroll right past it.
Same here, unless they start with me personally. The "horatio caine" person addressed me personally, so I slammed that person back so hard they can go cry in a corner, dragging their pedestal along with them.

I do not tolerate these people's lies, and it's *so easy* to point out WHY and HOW they're lying.
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RnL2008 wrote:
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Oh Brother.....another idiot who believes that somehow a Gay man(who isn't attracted to women)would actually decide to marry a woman just because he wanted to be married........WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH JUST ALLOWING A GAY MAN TO MARRY THE GAY MAN OF HIS CHOOSING? or ALLOWING A LESBIAN TO MARRY THE LESBIAN WOMAN OF HER CHOOSING? I mean didn't you get to marry the person of your choosing? or did someone FORCE you to marry just anyone because they happen to be of the opposite-sex?
Funny huh Rose! That would be like saying,if the shoe was on the other foot that I as a heterosexual could marry anyone I wanted as long as they were gay! LOL,The sheer idiocy of his statement is ludicrous at best! Marriage equality poses NO harm to the institution of marriage nor does it change it one iota! All marriage equality does is to make it all inclusive of ALL Americans gay or straight!
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WasteWater, I have finally adopted a position which I deploy forcefully and non-negotiably.

The antigay lie constantly. Therefore,*every living antigay individual* is now BLANKET-disqualified from making any pronouncement on morality.

Those pronouncements are now regarded as literally meaningless drivel, and ignored the nanosecond I see them. No negotiation; end of statement.
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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Bringmedinner just makes shit up as he goes. he is not to be taken seriously. obviously no-one in his life does for him to invent this fantasy world of his.
you should read some of the doosies he has posted on other pages. a true whack-job in the flesh...
I am just beginning to believe they're all sociopathic. To differing degrees, of course. You need a *REASON* to hate; and not a group, but individuals. Perhaps a guy "stole" your wife, or killed your kid. But this is straight-up insanity, and only this week am I beginning to fear *MUCH* more than before that somehow it will escalate into violence. The antigay are, I believe, a prominent, clear and present danger to society.

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Bringmedinner just makes shit up as he goes. he is not to be taken seriously. obviously no-one in his life does for him to invent this fantasy world of his.
you should read some of the doosies he has posted on other pages. a true whack-job in the flesh...
You sure hit the nail on the head on that one! Oh and by the way.....Hibbing,not Duluth! ;)

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Bill Of Rights wrote:
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Funny huh Rose! That would be like saying,if the shoe was on the other foot that I as a heterosexual could marry anyone I wanted as long as they were gay! LOL,The sheer idiocy of his statement is ludicrous at best! Marriage equality poses NO harm to the institution of marriage nor does it change it one iota! All marriage equality does is to make it all inclusive of ALL Americans gay or straight!
Exactly.....and they do make a idiot of themselves when they make those comments......lol!!!

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hi hi wrote:
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I am just beginning to believe they're all sociopathic. To differing degrees, of course. You need a *REASON* to hate; and not a group, but individuals. Perhaps a guy "stole" your wife, or killed your kid. But this is straight-up insanity, and only this week am I beginning to fear *MUCH* more than before that somehow it will escalate into violence. The antigay are, I believe, a prominent, clear and present danger to society.
Many times in history violence was the only source for removing filth from a society! I personally don't support violence but can see where civil unrest could erupt.

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