Should same-sex marriage become legal?

Rose_NoHo wrote:

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Exodus 35:2 "Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whoever does work therein shall be put to death."
In Numbers 15:32-36, a man is tortured to death for gathering wood on the Sabbath. God directly orders the torture death of the man.

Just Think wrote:

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Again - why would tonight be different from any other night?

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Kom2 wrote:

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My friend, God was speaking to Israel. God was not speaking to us or the rest of mankind.
This was in the context of the old covenant between God and Israel.
We did not take part in that covenant, and that covenant ended.
The sabbath was a shadow of Christ. Our rest is found in Christ, and not in a day.
Forget not of, Mark 2:27 Then he said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
Galatians 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."
Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

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Robsan5 wrote:

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Kom, you sure make a lot of assumptions.
Have you ever heard of a 'marriage of convenience'? Lots of straights do it.
Sodomy is a synonym for gay anal sex, not "homosexuality". It would be kinda hard for a celibate lesbian to be a sodomite, don't you agree? Again I ask: what is the biblical definition of homosexuality?
Robert

Rick in Kansas wrote:

<quoted text>That would be your CHOICE of versions of the "One True God", nothing more. Those who choose to believe in other versions of the "One True God" have right to disagree with you on that. For myself, who chooses not to believe in any version of "One True God", your claim is simply silly. <quoted text>So you choose to believe.<quoted text>Which version would that be, who makes such a determination and if it is the version you have been quoting from, how can the "One True" version contain a factual error like adding homosexuals to a list where they were never even mentioned? <quoted text>But you have yet to convince me that other than in two verses from an Old Testament book that you otherwise completely disregard, that God has said ANYTHING about being homosexual, homosexuality and/or homosexual sexual acts, let alone that it was wrong. If YOU want to CHOOSE to believe otherwise, that is your problem not mine. If I am ever going to choose to believe in any version of "One True God", it certainly won't be the version you're peddling. <quoted text>Who gets to speak for God, especially when you don't have the only choice of versions in the room? <quoted text>Then why have YOU been pretending to know us better than we know ourselves. It was YOU who made the pronouncement that I had to have chosen to be gay, not God. I challenged you, not God, to back that statement up. You didn't, you merely blamed God for what YOU said. <quoted text>And that would mean that he knew he was doing and I would know what he was doing, not you, right? <quoted text>Choose to believe in a version of God that seems so petty and hateful, at least in your hands. <quoted text>You keep saying that, but that is to choose to believe that you know us better than we know ourselves. We KNOW that we were born to be homosexuals, just claiming that YOU have chosen to believe that God don't do Queer isn't proof that he doesn't. <quoted text>But you are speaking only for your CHOICE of belief that homosexual=hell, others of the Christian faith would disagree with you on that. By the way, gay or straight or somewhere in between, we all have free will to do with what we've been given. <quoted text>And he gave us our homosexuality, heterosexuality and/or bisexuality, learn to deal with that. <quoted text>Matthew 7:15-23
I know the difference between figs and thistles.

Kom2 wrote:

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My friend, it is not found in the night, nor the day, but in your Heart. To Pray means to talk with God, so talk with Him. I have Prayed many times for you my friend, and I will continue too. Be at peace my friend, do not worry for The Father has got your back. We are in this world that drags us down to Hell, but if you Belive in Christ, He will walk with you, and when you cannot walk, then He will carry you.

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Rick in Kansas wrote:

<quoted text>That would be your CHOICE of versions of the "One True God", nothing more. Those who choose to believe in other versions of the "One True God" have right to disagree with you on that. For myself, who chooses not to believe in any version of "One True God", your claim is simply silly. <quoted text>So you choose to believe.<quoted text>Which version would that be, who makes such a determination and if it is the version you have been quoting from, how can the "One True" version contain a factual error like adding homosexuals to a list where they were never even mentioned? <quoted text>But you have yet to convince me that other than in two verses from an Old Testament book that you otherwise completely disregard, that God has said ANYTHING about being homosexual, homosexuality and/or homosexual sexual acts, let alone that it was wrong. If YOU want to CHOOSE to believe otherwise, that is your problem not mine. If I am ever going to choose to believe in any version of "One True God", it certainly won't be the version you're peddling. <quoted text>Who gets to speak for God, especially when you don't have the only choice of versions in the room? <quoted text>Then why have YOU been pretending to know us better than we know ourselves. It was YOU who made the pronouncement that I had to have chosen to be gay, not God. I challenged you, not God, to back that statement up. You didn't, you merely blamed God for what YOU said. <quoted text>And that would mean that he knew he was doing and I would know what he was doing, not you, right? <quoted text>Choose to believe in a version of God that seems so petty and hateful, at least in your hands. <quoted text>You keep saying that, but that is to choose to believe that you know us better than we know ourselves. We KNOW that we were born to be homosexuals, just claiming that YOU have chosen to believe that God don't do Queer isn't proof that he doesn't. <quoted text>But you are speaking only for your CHOICE of belief that homosexual=hell, others of the Christian faith would disagree with you on that. By the way, gay or straight or somewhere in between, we all have free will to do with what we've been given. <quoted text>And he gave us our homosexuality, heterosexuality and/or bisexuality, learn to deal with that. <quoted text>Matthew 7:15-23
I know the difference between figs and thistles.

Robsan5 wrote:

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Kom, what does any of this have to do with same-sex marriage? You keep trying to bring your religion into this discussion, so please post the passage of your bible that says, "man shall not marry man, nor shall woman marry woman". Then please explain why your religious beliefs should control the lives of other Americans who do not share your religious beliefs.
Robert

Just Think wrote:

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You're dodging the question - and poorly.
AGAIN - why would praying NOW be any different than all the times I prayed in years past and heard nothing in response?

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Michael wrote:

<quoted text>Gag Me....you Straight People Hop from one person to another having unwanted children and The Divorce Rate is High! Why should Zu be able to get married 4-8 times when you can't even stay with one person long enough! I've been with my partner going on 30yrs.... I pay your school taxes and pay for your child tax credits and pay more in taxes than U do. I want the Same Benefits U take for Granted! Your All Messed Up!

cookielove1992 wrote:

whether people agree with same sex marriage or not it still should be legal
i dont care what some BS book says
not allowing is just being something called "selfish" keeping marriage only to males n females
marriage is a special thing linking one person to another which should be allowed for ALL couples

Robsan5 wrote:

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Kom, what does any of this have to do with same-sex marriage? You keep trying to bring your religion into this discussion, so please post the passage of your bible that says, "man shall not marry man, nor shall woman marry woman". Then please explain why your religious beliefs should control the lives of other Americans who do not share your religious beliefs.
Robert

Kom2 wrote:

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My friend, as I said before, homosexuality is a choice. Romans 1 shows that because these persons “worshipped and served the creature rather than the creator” and “changed the truth of God into a lie” God gave them up to homosexuality, which is described as a SHAMEFUL AFFECTION. Further, Romans 1 shows that homosexuality is “against nature,” which means that this orientation is foreign to man’s nature, that is, it is NOT instilled by God, but by man.
Why would God create one homosexual and then say to them that they are wrong? This would make God a hypocrite.
God create Man for Woman and Woman for Man. God did not create one homosexual, he made us with Freewill which brings us to choices of who we are and who we will be.

Kom2 wrote:

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My friend, God always responsed. But you must hear for His response, for it may not be the one you want but it is His response. If you Prayed before and you did not hear His answer then try again, I heard a person once say; "If you Pray to God and you dont get an answer, then maybe it time for you to Pray louder." God hears all Prayers my friend. If I can ask, what did you use to Pray about?

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<quoted text> here 1 corinthians 6:9do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral no idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor HOMOSEXUAL OFFENDERS

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Kom2 wrote:

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My friend, God always responsed. But you must hear for His response, for it may not be the one you want but it is His response. If you Prayed before and you did not hear His answer then try again, I heard a person once say; "If you Pray to God and you dont get an answer, then maybe it time for you to Pray louder." God hears all Prayers my friend. If I can ask, what did you use to Pray about?

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Just Think wrote:

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So the female prostitutes are cool?

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Kom2 wrote:

My friend, again I say the (WORD) homosexual did not appear in any translation of the Christian Bible until 1946 because we have to acknowledge that you don't translate a word from Hebrew and Greek into the English if there is no English equivalent. So, using the term "homosexual" in the English Bible could not have occurred until after the word had entered the English vocabulary.

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God makes clear of homosexuality being wrong in many Verses like;
•Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
•Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

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•1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

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•Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

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Kom2 wrote:

My friend, as I said before, homosexuality is a choice.

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Romans 1 shows that because these persons “worshipped and served the creature rather than the creator” and “changed the truth of God into a lie” God gave them up to homosexuality, which is described as a SHAMEFUL AFFECTION.

Kom2 wrote:

Further, Romans 1 shows that homosexuality is “against nature,” which means that this orientation is foreign to man’s nature, that is, it is NOT instilled by God, but by man.

Kom2 wrote:

Why would God create one homosexual and then say to them that they are wrong? This would make God a hypocrite.

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God create Man for Woman and Woman for Man. God did not create one homosexual, he made us with Freewill which brings us to choices of who we are and who we will be.

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Rick in Kansas wrote:

<quoted text>You keep saying that over and over again as if it is proof of anything. The point you are so desperate to avoid is that while the ancient Greeks did not have a word equivalent to the modern concept of homosexuality, they did have words to describe same sex sexual acts and those who engage in them, words which were not used by Paul, writing in Greek to a Greek audience in his little list of those who he says will not be inheriting the kingdom of heaven. For "homosexuality" to suddenly appear in the English version of the text is not faithful, literal translation but creative writing with an ugly agenda.
<quoted text>Once again dear, unless YOU are adhering to ALL the laws and commandments found in Leviticus and Deuteronomy, calling out anyone for their supposed violations is the kind of hypocrisy that these books repeatedly condemns.
<quoted text>Repeating the verse doesn't change the reality that your "translation" contains a couple of flat out lies. According to the oldest known copy of the work, Paul mentions neither those who are effeminate nor those who are homosexual and for them to appear in your version is an insult to God.
<quoted text>And of course there are three out of context verses that tell us that God made straight Romans do gay stuff as punishment for their idolatry. What exactly do you suppose this is telling us other than you can't comprehend what you claim to have read?
If you really want to believe that your version of God hates homosexuality and/or homosexuals, such a choice is your right, but you really should quit blaming your exercise of your own free will on the Bible and God, neither made you do it.