Churches to raise money to fight gay marriage

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Get That Fool wrote:

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I've already answered you...so do you support 'any' laws??? If so...you are against liberty...

KittenKoder wrote:

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The right to free speech is an allowance of speech.

KittenKoder wrote:

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A "right" offered by the government is technically an allowance, it is allowing you to do something. Therefore, a right is an allowance.

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KittenKoder wrote:

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Incorrect, I support rights being applied equally, however I also support personal liberties, which is a right for the individual to choose their lives so long as they do not effect another person's life. The only laws that should exist are those which prevent each person from harming another person, all other laws are anti-liberty. You are anti-liberty, and therefore, you are a liberal. I think they have teeshirts or some other memorabilia for becoming a liberal, it seems to be common for them.

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KittenKoder wrote:

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As to your christian assertion, prove your god is real first,

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Get That Fool wrote:

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You need some serious help...
Some universally recognized rights as fundamental, i.e., contained in the U.N. Covenant on Civil and Political Rights or the U.N. Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, are as follows:[citation needed]
Right to equal protection under the law [1][2]
Right to freedom of thought[3]
Right to freedom of speech and press (cf. freedom of expression)
Right to freedom of association[4]
Right to freedom of movement within the country[5]
Right to vote in general election
Right to direct a child's upbringing [6]
Right to privacy[7]
Right to marry[8]
Right to property
Right to Bear Arms[citation needed]
"Allowances" under the U.S. Constitution.....
.....any questions???????

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Get That Fool wrote:

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I support rights being equally applied too.
Does a man have the right to marry a woman???? ABSOLUTELY
Does a woman have the right to marry a man???? ABSOLUTELY
Is that equally applied rights??? ABSOLUTELY....

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Get That Fool wrote:

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I support rights being equally applied too.
Does a man have the right to marry a woman???? ABSOLUTELY
Does a woman have the right to marry a man???? ABSOLUTELY
Is that equally applied rights??? ABSOLUTELY....

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brad wrote:

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It depends what your definition of is,is.
Thats the basis of their entire argument.
Pretty flimsy when your core defense stems from dazzling them with bullshite and double talk.

KittenKoder wrote:

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Definition of RIGHT
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: qualities (as adherence to duty or obedience to lawful authority) that together constitute the ideal of moral propriety or merit moral approval
Definition of ALLOW
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a : permit <doesn't allow people to smoke in his home> b : to forbear or neglect to restrain or prevent <allow the dog to roam>
A right is also something that is allowed by the governing body therefore, it is an allowance. Learn some English, this is basic stuff.

FaFoxy wrote:

Nobody believes in "equal rights" for ALL people. Anyone who says taht is obviously lying.

FaFoxy wrote:

Nobody believes in "equal rights" for ALL people. Anyone who says taht is obviously lying.

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brad wrote:

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It depends what your definition of is,is.
Thats the basis of their entire argument.
Pretty flimsy when your core defense stems from dazzling them with bullshite and double talk.

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The catch phrase "equal rights" is really a truncated phrase, the whole idea is "equally applied rights." So yes, we do want equal rights for all people.

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No, it was a side argument I made that had no weight on the issue, really.

brad wrote:

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I've watched this thread,and your comments,long enough to know that all your arguments derive from semantics,biased opinion and word play.

FaFoxy wrote:

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Then explain why:
1. Some states allow 17 year old people to vote, while other states do not.
2. Some states allow convicted felons to vote, while other states do not.
3. Why are 16 year olds allowed to marry, yet not allowed to join the military while 17 year olds allowed to join the military, yet not allowed to vote, while 18 year olds are allowed to vote, but not allowed to purchase alcohol ?
Anyone who says that they believe in "equal rights" (whatever that means) for all people is obviously lying.

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KittenKoder wrote:

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The catch phrase "equal rights" is really a truncated phrase, the whole idea is "equally applied rights." So yes, we do want equal rights for all people.