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May 1, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger

Vt. House Asks FDA To Lift Blood-Giving Ban

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The Vermont House has voted to ask the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to lift its lifetime ban on blood donations by gay and bisexual men.

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I know it's not going to be popular, but I object to this direction.

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May 2, 2012
 
snyper wrote:
I know it's not going to be popular, but I object to this direction.
Why? Because men involved in monogamous relationships since 1980 are a bigger threat to the blood supply than young Casanovas?

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May 2, 2012
 
snyper wrote:
I know it's not going to be popular, but I object to this direction.
They are better at screening for blood born illnesses, for one thing. The other is that they are discovering that many heterosexuals are undiagnosed anyway so they have to screen all the blood now. Remember in the 80's when there was a huge spike in people getting AIDs from blood transfusions, well, gay people were banned from it back then as well. The contamination was likely because there was a huge increase in undiagnosed heterosexuals with the disease, though since most straight people won't get tested for any STD, gay people are essentially safer donors because at least they know before they even enter the clinic whether they have a blood born illness due to the testing they volunteer for regularly, just to be safe. Yeah, you technically have a higher chance of getting a serious illness from a straight person than a gay person just because gay people get tested.

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May 2, 2012
 
KittenKoder wrote:
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They are better at screening for blood born illnesses, for one thing. The other is that they are discovering that many heterosexuals are undiagnosed anyway so they have to screen all the blood now. Remember in the 80's when there was a huge spike in people getting AIDs from blood transfusions, well, gay people were banned from it back then as well. The contamination was likely because there was a huge increase in undiagnosed heterosexuals with the disease, though since most straight people won't get tested for any STD, gay people are essentially safer donors because at least they know before they even enter the clinic whether they have a blood born illness due to the testing they volunteer for regularly, just to be safe. Yeah, you technically have a higher chance of getting a serious illness from a straight person than a gay person just because gay people get tested.
I'm also against for-pay blood/plasma banks.

Just my quirk. Fortunately my opinion doesn't matter.

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May 2, 2012
 
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I'm also against for-pay blood/plasma banks.
I thought those were eliminated decades ago. When I was in college, I knew a few regular donors. I'm glad I never needed any blood that might have come from them.

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KittenKoder wrote:
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They are better at screening for blood born illnesses, for one thing. The other is that they are discovering that many heterosexuals are undiagnosed anyway so they have to screen all the blood now. Remember in the 80's when there was a huge spike in people getting AIDs from blood transfusions, well, gay people were banned from it back then as well. The contamination was likely because there was a huge increase in undiagnosed heterosexuals with the disease, though since most straight people won't get tested for any STD, gay people are essentially safer donors because at least they know before they even enter the clinic whether they have a blood born illness due to the testing they volunteer for regularly, just to be safe. Yeah, you technically have a higher chance of getting a serious illness from a straight person than a gay person just because gay people get tested.
Gay or straight, newly-infected people are seldom aware. Even people who are tested regularly could not yet be aware.

How about changing the rule to say gay men can't donate until a year after their last encounter with someone whose status wasn't conclusively known to be negative? Or the individual has been celebate/monogamous for a year after an HIV test? Why does a life-time ban make any sense unless you're afraid of being infected by the gay?

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nhjeff wrote:
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I thought those were eliminated decades ago. When I was in college, I knew a few regular donors. I'm glad I never needed any blood that might have come from them.
Nope. At least not on the left coast.

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nhjeff wrote:
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Gay or straight, newly-infected people are seldom aware. Even people who are tested regularly could not yet be aware.
How about changing the rule to say gay men can't donate until a year after their last encounter with someone whose status wasn't conclusively known to be negative? Or the individual has been celebate/monogamous for a year after an HIV test? Why does a life-time ban make any sense unless you're afraid of being infected by the gay?
That would be a pointless rule. Did you not notice how I mentioned the spike in AIDs infected blood in spite of gay people not being allowed to donate? That was a very real event in the 80s and 90s, and why doctors only give transfusions when nothing else is possible to save a patient since about 2000. Barring gay people has done no good, more stringent testing of the blood post donation however has, as well as less dependence on the blood itself. I was grateful when I found out I didn't need a transfusion in spite of almost bleeding to death on the operating table when I had my gallbladder removed, the blood from straight people is dangerous because straight people do not get tested much at all, gay people at least get tested, and allowing the clean ones to donate would decrease your chances of catching anything if you need a transfusion.

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nhjeff wrote:
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I thought those were eliminated decades ago. When I was in college, I knew a few regular donors. I'm glad I never needed any blood that might have come from them.
LOL!! I donated plasma 3 times a week during my early college years in the early 80s just to earn extra spending money!

As for the lifetime ban, it's ridiculous. As a person with O-neg blood who is in a twenty year monogomous relationship, I would love to donate. But I won't lie to do it. Nor should I have to.

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May 2, 2012
 
A straight man who engages in unprotected sex for years can donate blood.

A gay teenager who has never had sex cannot donate blood.

And idiots want to pretend that this is "equal"? That they are "protecting the blood supply"?

The bigotry is so rampant that gay people in Canada are not allowed to donate organs.

http://www.egale.ca/index.asp...

A few years ago, a gay teenage boy in Seattle (I forget his name) killed himself as a result of bullying. His parents attempted to donate his organs and were shocked to later learn they were rejected for use simply because he was gay, never mind that the boy was less than 15 years old and had never had sex.

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May 2, 2012
 
P_Smith wrote:
A straight man who engages in unprotected sex for years can donate blood.
A gay teenager who has never had sex cannot donate blood.
And idiots want to pretend that this is "equal"? That they are "protecting the blood supply"?
The bigotry is so rampant that gay people in Canada are not allowed to donate organs.
http://www.egale.ca/index.asp...
A few years ago, a gay teenage boy in Seattle (I forget his name) killed himself as a result of bullying. His parents attempted to donate his organs and were shocked to later learn they were rejected for use simply because he was gay, never mind that the boy was less than 15 years old and had never had sex.
I have always thought the rule was men who have had sex with another man. But if you're afraid of catching gay from a blood transfusion, I can understand why you'd rather die. You would have to be too dumb to live.

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May 3, 2012
 
P_Smith wrote:
A straight man who engages in unprotected sex for years can donate blood.
A gay teenager who has never had sex cannot donate blood.
And idiots want to pretend that this is "equal"? That they are "protecting the blood supply"?
The bigotry is so rampant that gay people in Canada are not allowed to donate organs.
http://www.egale.ca/index.asp...
A few years ago, a gay teenage boy in Seattle (I forget his name) killed himself as a result of bullying. His parents attempted to donate his organs and were shocked to later learn they were rejected for use simply because he was gay, never mind that the boy was less than 15 years old and had never had sex.
It's not fair. Neither are the never-get-overs.

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