Homosexuality and the Bible

Hula wrote:

God wants us to be happy so shouldn't gay and lesbians be happy?! I'm only 13 and not lesbian or gay but I think that we should hav happiness no matter who we love! "Be the change you want to see in the world"- Gandhi

There is no God and we do not have a right to happiness but the right to prusue happiness. In other words, you have the right to try to get happiness which would make anyone trying to stop you someone who is violating your rights. In a normal world homophobes would be removed and re-educated in how we do things in America.

Ivorydick wrote:

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MY QUESTION WAS:
"BTW. What version of the bible do you actually use?"
What was wrong with that question?
What are you afraid of?

My question to PR Snow (aka Blake, Byron, Nathaniel) in case you never understood it.

Re. What version of the bible do you actually use?

By “version” I meant to ask which translation/edition you use – if you actually own one at all. eg. King James Version, New International Version, New Revised Standard Version, New Living Translation etc, etc.

I happen to own and refer to several versions which include King James, Amplified & New English.

Why is my question so difficult (or impossible) for you to answer?

Joe DeCaro wrote:

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... especially when you're dancing with David.

Of course. Good one.

I am beginning to like you.

Wanna dance?

Ivorydick wrote:

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MY QUESTION WAS:
"BTW. What version of the bible do you actually use?"
What was wrong with that question?
What are you afraid of?

Wrong question. It should be this.

Which Bible to you prefer to abuse others with?

Reverend Alan wrote:

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No one believes in what you call God's word.

Have you asked all other people?

Reverend Alan wrote:

It is impossible to believe opposites both at the same time.

How do you know that paradoxes can't be true?

Ivorydick wrote:

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Why is my question so difficult (or impossible) for you to answer?

Fair question! It's especially bad when other people abuse those who earnestly seek? That's how it is in dictator-environment, isn't it?

Ivorydick wrote:

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Why is my question so difficult (or impossible) for you to answer?

Fair question! It's especially bad when other people abuse those who earnestly seek? That's how it is in dictator-environment, isn't it?

If people do that (abuse), it is because they are afraid and have problems?

My question to PR Snow (aka Blake, Byron, Nathaniel) requires a response because if you cannot tell the people (or are afraid to) what bible you rely on, NOTHING that you said in the past, or may say in the future, can have any credibility.

If you cannot provide a valid reference for your claims all your statements are worthless.

Ivorydick wrote:

My question to PR Snow (aka Blake, Byron, Nathaniel) requires a response because if you cannot tell the people (or are afraid to) what bible you rely on, NOTHING that you said in the past, or may say in the future, can have any credibility.
If you cannot provide a valid reference for your claims all your statements are worthless.

Of course.

WasteWater wrote:

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Wrong question. It should be this.
Which Bible to you prefer to abuse others with?

How about, "Which Bible is best to bash gays and lesbians with?"

LuLu Ford wrote:

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How about, "Which Bible is best to bash gays and lesbians with?"

That's another way to put it.

How about, "Which Bible is best when someone comes in the name of Jesus to hurt other people?"

Some people use the Bible as a source of inspiration, others use it as a weapon to bash people with."

LuLu Ford wrote:

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How about, "Which Bible is best to bash gays and lesbians with?"

First you insist that the Bible does not mention homosexuality, then you ask which version of the Bible best bashes gays and lesbians.

Your posts contradict each other, therefore I will burn your post on the fire.

Thanks.

I was born gay. U were taught religion. Marriage a uniting. Either u live to be forever with love of abother... Or u dont. Either way if god/jesus cant forgive me for being gay... I can forgive him. I am not god so i have no right to preach or judge. Give an opinion on wat he said which has been translated to many times... Causing wars, hate, violence. I wasnt there when he said it. But i do know the difference from right and wrong. And i will be faithful to my partner and love her and care for her... No bible,person, church, god, piece of paper will determine that.

Manmanman wrote:

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First you insist that the Bible does not mention homosexuality, then you ask which version of the Bible best bashes gays and lesbians.
Your posts contradict each other, therefore I will burn your post on the fire.
Thanks.

Man3,
the current versions of the bible do use the word "homosexual", but not "homosexuality".
But how did the word "homosexual" end up in any bible? It wasn't invented until the 1880's, so what word was used in it's place before then? How did a word coined in the 1880's end being translated out of documents written 2,000 years ago?
That's like saying you can find the the term "critical Mach number" to describe an aerodynamic term, in the bible, when that was just unconceived of 2,000 years ago.

Robert

Manmanman wrote:

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First you insist that the Bible does not mention homosexuality, then you ask which version of the Bible best bashes gays and lesbians.
Your posts contradict each other, therefore I will burn your post on the fire.
Thanks.

How does your computer burn?

People obviously use the Bible to bash gays and lesbians. Their interpretation is shallow and meaningless.

Robsan5 wrote:

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Man3,
the current versions of the bible do use the word "homosexual", but not "homosexuality".
But how did the word "homosexual" end up in any bible? It wasn't invented until the 1880's, so what word was used in it's place before then? How did a word coined in the 1880's end being translated out of documents written 2,000 years ago?
That's like saying you can find the the term "critical Mach number" to describe an aerodynamic term, in the bible, when that was just unconceived of 2,000 years ago.
Robert

Using the word homosexual is a perfect means to sell Bibles to self-righteous bigots.

Everyone have a good and safe holiday weekend!

Manmanman wrote:

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First you insist that the Bible does not mention homosexuality, then you ask which version of the Bible best bashes gays and lesbians.
Your posts contradict each other, therefore I will burn your post on the fire.
Thanks.

Hi, is it possible for you to use another name so that our two usernames are not mixed?

Thanks

Just to inform everybody; Now there are two Manmanman-users here.

I am not sure why that happened?

Mister Ford wrote:

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Using the word homosexual is a perfect means to sell Bibles to self-righteous bigots.

The best selling Bible was translated before the word 'homosexual' was coined and is still selling just fine, Mister Ford. As you know, it and all versions of the Bible command against all homosexual behavior, including your practice of trying to dress like a woman. This has nothing to do with self righteousness or bigotry, Mister Ford. It is a FACT that you'll never change.