So, What Is It That The Anti-Gay Groups Actually Fear?

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Fitz wrote:

The leftist Marxist oppressor/oppressed dialect was borrowed wholesale by both feminism and the gay agenda.
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HIV

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GoldenGator wrote:

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Wrong as usual, sPam. If you’d bother to educate yourself (or simply stop lying), you’d know it is NOT apparent that gay adults are attracted to the idea of introducing teenagers to gay sex. I realized your limited intelligence makes education difficult, but it really isn’t that complicated. You just prefer to waste your pathetic, miserable life wallowing in hatred.
And stop invoking your god, your bible, and your satan (oh please; are you really that stupid?) unless your goal is turn away potential christians, in which case you succeed admirably. Too bad you have to lie to do it.

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Pam wrote:

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Here we have it. A perfect example of a gay who thinks having sex with a teenager is doing nothing wrong. The kids' parents would probably disagree, and apparently members of the Democrat Party (gasp!) do, also. Gays seem to have a moral code of their own that run afoul of the majority. I hope this situation will e a wake-up call to Democrats who are kissing gay butt in desperate hope of a few more votes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/20/kerr...

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Pam wrote:

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Here we have it. A perfect example of a gay who thinks having sex with a teenager is doing nothing wrong. The kids' parents would probably disagree, and apparently members of the Democrat Party (gasp!) do, also. Gays seem to have a moral code of their own that run afoul of the majority. I hope this situation will e a wake-up call to Democrats who are kissing gay butt in desperate hope of a few more votes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/20/kerr...

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HAHAHA wrote:

G@ys attack little boys, not all of them, but enough to make you worry.

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Libertatem wrote:

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I think that you (& most people these days) misunderstand what true liberty actually means.
Imagine that when you receive a paycheck at the end of the week & 30 percent of it has NOT been taken from you.
Now that marriage has nothing to do with plundered money or special benefits, you experience true liberty, you live with your partner, maybe sign a contract to divide property or a pre nup agreement, & now you dont have to shout into everyone's ear what gender you prefer to breed with.
Gay people should be asking the following question:
Why does government get to pick winners & losers to modify behavior by means of extortion & fight for true liberty.

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Fitz wrote:

The leftist Marxist oppressor/oppressed dialect was borrowed wholesale by both feminism and the gay agenda.
Because of the nature of this dialectic, no compromise is possible or desired. It operates in such a way to paint all opposition and the roots of all opposition to be hate/fear or some other irrational animus.
One can see it in feminism in the concentration on rape, power dynamics,the "patriarchy", and domestic violence.
Likewise in gay lingo you have heterosexism, homophobia, the concentration on mantra's of "hate & bigotry" and the absurd notion that defense of marriage has no rational basis.
This is crucial to the gay rights movement. Like all Marxism it is not designed to "reform our culture" or ask for discreet improvement or laws. No... it is a revolutionary movement that wants to overthrow something..In this case "marriage".
This explains the apalling lack of concern for the importance of marriage, or any empathy or concern in recognizing how changing the definition will change the institution and society.
The left has always hated marriage and the monogamous male/female dynamic it represents. It is a mainstay in Marxist literature & rhetoric from Engel's to Derrida.
Their ideological blinders are on so tight they cannot break their own paradigm.
These people are what Lenin called "useful idiots"

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Fitz wrote:

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Gosh - Not a single mention of substance...a classic case of ad hominum attack without addressing substance..
Try again..

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RubyTheDyke wrote:

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Honey, you can fling around your marxist conspiracy rhetoric until the cows come home, but we all know this is about your and and others like you and your unbridled megalomania,your arrogant sense of your own perfection and your lust for god-like control over other people and their lives.

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RubyTheDyke wrote:

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Honey, you can fling around your marxist conspiracy rhetoric until the cows come home, but we all know this is about your and and others like you and your unbridled megalomania,your arrogant sense of your own perfection and your lust for god-like control over other people and their lives.

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Fitz wrote:

You can attemot to ignore or dismiss this simple and obvious point.
But anyone who is honest and educated realizes that this is the case.
Its the same language, same tactics, same paradigm and same ideolgical front.
I think its kind of funny that you have to ignore the ideological lineage of your own movement.
No educated and honest person dosent recognize this clear fact.

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RubyTheDyke wrote:

<quoted text>Sweetie I think you've asked an essential question, because the idea of the government being used as a tool of benevolent dictatorship whether by individual or coalition to coerce certan social conventions in the way it is being used goes far beyond the practicalities of what is needed to simply establish fundamental harmony and order. What goverment is being used for is not a legitimate safeguard of our health and safety but as a safeguard for ideological particulars, the protection of one group's specific worldview. Ideas are being protected, whether or not in the greater scheme of things there are a plurality of ideas that that have the net effect of also enhancing the public good, that these ideas are just as equivalent in their quality of life as the ones that foisted by the force of law. And when one looks again at the larger picture we are seeing an infringement on our represtative government values, and we're seeing as a result of that goverment as a means to enhance the few at the expense of the majority. Talk about perversion! Social organisms are built around parity: show me any other social organism in nature where the sacrifice made by an individual is not comensated by equivalent benefits. So if you fit all this into the discussion at hand, what do anti-gay groups fear, very simply, the loss of dominance, power and a social structure that first and foremost benfits them at the expence of anyone not fitting their worldview and the return to the idea of social structures being formed to net as much benefit to as many of its particpants as possible with government as its agent. Gay rights are simply a battle in a much more fundamental war, and I can gaurontee you that the outcome as to the fundamental reasons for society and the use of governance to uphold those reasons are going to be the difference between whether our country and and our species has a future.

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Fitz wrote:

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You realize that this itself is a diversionary tactic...that it is part & parcel of the lefts strategy?
Its part of what is called "stridency"?
All you can do is change the subject when your advesary is over the target.

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Fitz wrote:

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Ruby - Have you been to college? Do you personally disavow marxism?
It philisophical not conspiritorial...
"Me & others like me"????

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Space Cowboy wrote:

Destruction of the traditional family unit and traditional family values.
A sexual fetish should not make you a protected group.
Mom + Dad + Kids = Family