Conservative Christians Warn Against Obama's Pro-Homosexual Agenda

who cares what the 'conservative christrians' think..

they can go blow themselves!

Troth for Leogere wrote:

who cares what the 'conservative christrians' think..
they can go blow themselves!

No pedophiles and those that defend the unnatural behavior of homosexuality are the real killer and exploiters of children..Anyone who thinks, men licking each other anus where human being excrete fecal matter loaded with all kinds of pathogens, fungi, bacteria and viruses, which is how many plagues started and were spread during the dark ages, poor hygiene, that is promoted through perverted unnatural sexual behavior, known as homosexuality..WAKE UP..

zazenmind--"No pedophiles and those that defend the unnatural behavior of homosexuality are the real killer and exploiters of children."

Dispicable bigoted lie. Homosexuality is not a behavior, is not unnatural, and has never harmed, much less killed, any children. Comparing it to pedophilia is a horrible lie, the two are no more related than heterosexuality and pedophilia.

"Anyone who thinks, men licking each other anus where human being excrete fecal matter loaded with all kinds of pathogens, fungi, bacteria and viruses, which is how many plagues started and were spread during the dark ages, poor hygiene, that is promoted through perverted unnatural sexual behavior, known as homosexuality..WAKE UP.."

We are awake, and seeing typical right wing trash, homophobes OBSESSED with gay sex, nasty vulgar obsessive discussion about PRIVATE matters that harm nobody and are none of your business (and are also practiced by millions of heterosexual people.

Homosexuality is NOT behavior, sexual or otherwise. It is NOT unnatural and is NOT perverted. The only perverted behavior is your obsession and vulgar discussion of other peoples' private sex life.

zazenmind wrote:

<quoted text>No pedophiles and those that defend the unnatural behavior of homosexuality are the real killer and exploiters of children..Anyone who thinks, men licking each other anus where human being excrete fecal matter loaded with all kinds of pathogens, fungi, bacteria and viruses, which is how many plagues started and were spread during the dark ages, poor hygiene, that is promoted through perverted unnatural sexual behavior, known as homosexuality..WAKE UP..

Phew! Even by talibangelical nutcase standards you're really kinky, Blanche.

Praiz!

You would think the gay agenda would be happy that finaly some of the rights at the federal level are being given to gays.

N2shotokai wrote:

You would think the gay agenda would be happy that finaly some of the rights at the federal level are being given to gays.

It's a step in the right direction, far from the end of the discussion. Simple equality is what's being asked, and that's NOT where we are as a nation yet.

Why do fundies always have to have an "evil" group to persecute. It was blacks during the civil rights movement. It was witches in early colonial America. Now it's homosexuals that the fundies want to torture. The rhetoric sounds strikingly similar to that of the fundamentalist churches when blacks wanted civil rights during the 1950's.

I suppose fundamentalists have to distract themselves from the fact that they can't live up to the ridiculous moral edicts that they've placed on themselves.

If homosexuality is a sin, it is no more a sin than greed, sloth, envy, or treating your fellow humans like animals because you don't like their lifestyle.

How come the church isn't jumping up and down over the corporate greed that is destroying our economy and creating the largest class of poor people in 70 years. Are rich white guys too tough a target for fundamentalist scorn? How do you think this depression will affect our children's future?

Zazenmind, you should be very proud. You are aligning yourself with the likes of Fred Phelps, and the Nazi party.

writewingproxycontin wrote:

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Phew! Even by talibangelical nutcase standards you're really kinky, Blanche.
Praiz!

Dude, "Talibangelical" is one of the funniest things I've heard in a while. Cheers!

Wingnuts on the loose.

OkieDarren wrote:

<quoted text>
It's a step in the right direction, far from the end of the discussion. Simple equality is what's being asked, and that's NOT where we are as a nation yet.

The problem is what is the definition of equality. IMO most people would agree that issues such as insurance, visitation, inheritance etc. should be a choice of individuals. The problem is when the line of decency is crossed and demands are made that deiviant behavior is accepted as normal. If people focused on where most people agree there would be much more progress.

N2shotokai wrote:

<quoted text>The problem is what is the definition of equality. IMO most people would agree that issues such as insurance, visitation, inheritance etc. should be a choice of individuals. The problem is when the line of decency is crossed and demands are made that deiviant behavior is accepted as normal. If people focused on where most people agree there would be much more progress.

YOu mean when everyone thinks exactly like you, does as you do and says as you do.....then everyone can be a equal as you? Oh my!!!

N2shotokai--"The problem is what is the definition of equality."

No, the problem is that you're against it. Equality isn't difficult to understand at all.

"IMO most people would agree that issues such as insurance, visitation, inheritance etc. should be a choice of individuals."

That's not equality, that's "you get SOME rights, but not others."

"The problem is when the line of decency is crossed and demands are made that deiviant behavior is accepted as normal."

Homosexuality is not a behavior, and is not deviant. Whether you "accept" it or not, it IS normal, and the fact that you view them as "abnormal" even though EVERY credible scientific, mental health and medical authority confirms it's PERFECTLY normal to be gay really doesn't matter a lick. Simple equality is all that's being asked, and your bigotry is no excuse to deny it.

"If people focused on where most people agree there would be much more progress."

It's not "progress" to try to make people accept the back of the bus. Progress is when you get past your foolish, ignorant bigotry, accept that you're WRONG in thinking that gay people are "abnormal," and stop fighting against simple equality which still harms nobody.

zazenmind wrote:

<quoted text>No pedophiles and those that defend the unnatural behavior of homosexuality are the real killer and exploiters of children..Anyone who thinks, men licking each other anus where human being excrete fecal matter loaded with all kinds of pathogens, fungi, bacteria and viruses, which is how many plagues started and were spread during the dark ages, poor hygiene, that is promoted through perverted unnatural sexual behavior, known as homosexuality..WAKE UP..

Well I'm glad I ate lunch before reading that post.

But talk about the dark ages. Where do these people come up with this stuff?

OkieDarren wrote:

zazenmind--"No pedophiles and those that defend the unnatural behavior of homosexuality are the real killer and exploiters of children."
Dispicable bigoted lie. Homosexuality is not a behavior, is not unnatural, and has never harmed, much less killed, any children. Comparing it to pedophilia is a horrible lie, the two are no more related than heterosexuality and pedophilia.
"Anyone who thinks, men licking each other anus where human being excrete fecal matter loaded with all kinds of pathogens, fungi, bacteria and viruses, which is how many plagues started and were spread during the dark ages, poor hygiene, that is promoted through perverted unnatural sexual behavior, known as homosexuality..WAKE UP.."
We are awake, and seeing typical right wing trash, homophobes OBSESSED with gay sex, nasty vulgar obsessive discussion about PRIVATE matters that harm nobody and are none of your business (and are also practiced by millions of heterosexual people.
Homosexuality is NOT behavior, sexual or otherwise. It is NOT unnatural and is NOT perverted. The only perverted behavior is your obsession and vulgar discussion of other peoples' private sex life.

You made my point perfectly, its your private sexual perversion, and that is where it should remain, in your bed room, where men lick each others fecal matter, and then want the healthy and natural minded, to accept or past a law, in a vain attempt, to transform unnatural sexual perversion, into natural behavior, which no law has the power to do...FECAL MATTER CARRIES ALL KINDS OF BACTERIA AND PARASITES, THAT HOMOSEXUAL MEN AND LESBIAN WOMEN, BELIEVE IS HEALTHY AND NATURAL..THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT HEALTHY HUMAN BEINGS TO BELIEVE..WAKE UP..

That makes no sense at all. Our government is not based on majority rule. The majority cannot violate the civil rights of the minority. You fundies should be glad for that, because you are the minority here.

"...what is the definition of equality." As far as I know "equality" has a definition. It's in the dictionary, and is not open to wiki.

I think bigotry could be considered "deviant behavior." What do you think we should do about it?

Is Obama really a Christian ?

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Philster you wrote:

Why do fundies always have to have an "evil" group to persecute.

Well, cultic people can have a way of creating an "enemy" and then say, "We are the ones who can protect you." That is how perhaps a president or twosie has gotten this country into a war ... saying there was this bogey man that needed to be fought.

you then wrote:

It was blacks during the civil rights movement.

Was that *all* fundies who were criticizing Afros? or just certain types of fundamentalists. I'm seeing that not all fundies are alike.

you wrote:

Now it's homosexuals that the fundies want to torture. The rhetoric sounds strikingly similar to that of the fundamentalist churches when blacks wanted civil rights during the 1950's.

Well, I'm not aware of fundies in general opposing civil rights. I was in favor, then, but as a Catholic. And now as a fundie, I'm fine about Afros being equal to me. I have lived in and integrated Afro churches. The finest people can be in the worst places.

you also wrote:

I suppose fundamentalists have to distract themselves from the fact that they can't live up to the ridiculous moral edicts that they've placed on themselves.

But you are human, too > so is it possible you too are doing this ... making the fundies the "enemy"?

I'd be more concerned about how heteros are failing in marriages, damaging their kids with their terrible example so their kids don't know how to love, and then can depend on peers like themselves, and inbreed together instead of getting the example they need. Then, in their misery and confusion, they are desperate for pleasure, which can come through drugs and fake sex and alcohol, etc.

So, if public fundie activitists don't like the product, deal with what is producing it > stop divorcing, make it illegal to argue > arguing can degrade us so we can then get hurt and frustrated enough to get divorces, damaging our kids, again I offer, by our arguing without learning how to love.

So, you say, "If homosexuality is a sin, it is no more a sin than greed, sloth, envy, or treating your fellow humans like animals because you don't like their lifestyle." But you overlook how the poor marital relating is keeping kids from seeing how to love in marriage, then they can't make a relationship work, and can dump out in gay stuff and aborting, instead of becoming stable in God's love. You're evading, by merely pointing at those vice sins. Sin against love is what really damages.

you wrote:

How come the church isn't jumping up and down over the corporate greed that is destroying our economy and creating the largest class of poor people in 70 years. Are rich white guys too tough a target for fundamentalist scorn?

Again, pointing at a surface vice thing, versus dealing with the deeper problem of not knowing how to love. When ones are not brought up to know how to love, then is when they can be desperate for fake pleasure stuff witch can not deeply satisfy them and make them able to make a marriage work.

N2shotokai wrote:

<quoted text>The problem is what is the definition of equality. IMO most people would agree that issues such as insurance, visitation, inheritance etc. should be a choice of individuals. The problem is when the line of decency is crossed and demands are made that deiviant behavior is accepted as normal. If people focused on where most people agree there would be much more progress.

stfu. Your time is past, ya closet case fundie.

OkieDarren wrote:

It's not "progress" to try to make people accept the back of the bus. Progress is when you get past your foolish, ignorant bigotry, accept that you're WRONG in thinking that gay people are "abnormal," and stop fighting against simple equality which still harms nobody.

This is not a race issue. Gay sex is deviance. If you don't want to be deviant then start by restricting sex to the opposite gender. I am all for "simple" equality. Don't twist the truth.

OkieDarren wrote:

N2shotokai--"The problem is what is the definition of equality."
No, the problem is that you're against it. Equality isn't difficult to understand at all.
"IMO most people would agree that issues such as insurance, visitation, inheritance etc. should be a choice of individuals."
That's not equality, that's "you get SOME rights, but not others."
"The problem is when the line of decency is crossed and demands are made that deiviant behavior is accepted as normal."
Homosexuality is not a behavior, and is not deviant. Whether you "accept" it or not, it IS normal, and the fact that you view them as "abnormal" even though EVERY credible scientific, mental health and medical authority confirms it's PERFECTLY normal to be gay really doesn't matter a lick. Simple equality is all that's being asked, and your bigotry is no excuse to deny it.
"If people focused on where most people agree there would be much more progress."
It's not "progress" to try to make people accept the back of the bus. Progress is when you get past your foolish, ignorant bigotry, accept that you're WRONG in thinking that gay people are "abnormal," and stop fighting against simple equality which still harms nobody.

Sick behavoir can never be transformed into natural or healthy behavior by law, at one point I thought well, its ok, if gays are allowed by law, to have civil unions, but after more carefull thought, into the problem, I changed my mind..Because, how can society tell or know the difference, between a two male or female pedophiles who are allowed to get married under the law, only because they want the chance to adopt children, so they could sexual exploit them, under the guise of the law..DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER OR A SOLUTION? OTHER THAN BLIND TRUST OR CALLING ME A BIGOT..