What Does The Bible Actually Say About Gay Marriage?

I wonder how long it will take the "CHRISTIANS" to disagree with this author? Lol!!!

RnL2008 wrote:

I wonder how long it will take the "CHRISTIANS" to disagree with this author? Lol!!!

The Bible makes it plain. All homosexual behavior is very serious sin. That will never ever change.

See, that didn't take long and by the troll in Pekin Illinois!!!!

Hope all is well in your delusional world David!!!

RnL2008 wrote:

See, that didn't take long and by the troll in Pekin Illinois!!!!
Hope all is well in your delusional world David!!!

All you can do is call me names. You can't refute the truth I posted.

Loser.

Lacon wrote:

<quoted text>All you can do is call me names. You can't refute the truth I posted.
Loser.

No one cares about your bible

STUPID

The author of this article can kiss my ass, I don't care what his motives are here because the simple facts are that we do not live under religious "F"ing rule. The bible has no place in U.S. law period. Read the first sentence in the first amendment.

Our first guaranteed right as citizens of the U.S. is that we are free from religion! We have no need to debate what the "F"ing bible says because it does not matter in U.S. law! There is not one clause in the U.S. constitution that even remotely comes close to declaring religion as being part of law.

I'm thankful that the founding fathers of the U.S. had the sense to know the dangers of religion by writing the first sentence of the first amendment that protects us from religion. So it does not matter who you are just simply keep your religion in your church and homes.

Lacon wrote:

The Bible makes it plain. All homosexual behavior is very serious sin. That will never ever change.

David dear, we've been over this before, it is your CHOICE of INTERPRETATIONS of the Bible and not the Bible itself which makes it "plain". Many Christians who have actually read the Bible have chosen to come away with an entirely different message on the subject. What apparently will never change is your being a closed minded fool.

Transgend03 wrote:

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No one cares about your bible
STUPID

Wrong

I is an excellent article for those who have given little thought to the actual interpretation of what the bible "says", but it covers no new ground for those of us who have been on Topix for any length of time. Besides, the "christians" will not accept what the author has written. Their mind is made up by their church authorities, and they will go to their death upholding their dogma, right or wrong.

Lacon wrote:

<quoted text>All you can do is call me names. You can't refute the truth I posted.
Loser.

As usual David.......you post NO TRUTH......and your crap has been debunk more times than ANYONE cares to explain to you again!!!

This is the same old drivel that blindly trots out Biblical passages and then twists them to fit the agenda. If homosexuals are willing to bet their eternity on these kinds of interpretations, then there is nothing anyone else can do to save them. People opposed to "gay marriage," however, understand perfectly that America has had the blessings of God for over 200 years. They furthermore understand that God's directives in Leviticus stipulate that you follow those codes or suffer the same fate that earlier violators of the code suffered.

1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them:‘I am the LORD your God. 3 You must not do as they do in Egypt, where you used to live, and you must not do as they do in the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you. Do not follow their practices.
22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

23 “‘Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion......

24 “‘Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. 25 Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants.

Every state that legalizes "gay marriage" defiles the nation. That makes it everybody's business. Each one is one more nail driven into a coffin labelled "R.I.P. U.S.A."

With the Islamist chomping at the bit to take over the world, we'd better be serious about making sure God is on our side.

RnL2008 wrote:

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As usual David.......you post NO TRUTH......and your crap has been debunk more times than ANYONE cares to explain to you again!!!

So why does this 'refutaion' of the irrefutable disappear?

Face reality. The Bible condemns all homosexual behavior in the clearest of terms and always will. Here a good discussion of this reality, with full documentation: http://carm.org/homosexuality

Snickers wrote:

They furthermore understand that God's directives in Leviticus stipulate that you follow those codes or suffer the same fate that earlier violators of the code suffered.

Leviticus 20:10-12, 20:20, 20:9, 24:14, 20:18, 17:10 and let's not forget the directives in Deuteronomy, 22:20-21, 22:25, 17:2-7, 13:1-11, 13:12-15, 18:20, 21:18-21, 19:15 - 21, 17:8-13. Let's not forget the directive you have broken here: Numbers 15:32-36. When do we start?

Lacon wrote:

<quoted text>So why does this 'refutaion' of the irrefutable disappear?
Face reality. The Bible condemns all homosexual behavior in the clearest of terms and always will. Here a good discussion of this reality, with full documentation: http://carm.org/homosexuality

Sorry David.......but YOUR interpretations of what the bible does or doesn't condemn is just that.....YOUR INTERPRETATIONS!!!

I seriously doubt you follow every scripture in every chapter in your precious book......so, until you can follow your own bible and what supposedly someone wrote.......kindly don't expect others too!!!

Personally......I have no need for your book of fairy tales.......and I am quite good with my spiritual and religious beliefs......and I have no issues facing G-D on my judgment day:-)

Rick in Kansas wrote:

<quoted text>Leviticus 20:10-12, 20:20, 20:9, 24:14, 20:18, 17:10 and let's not forget the directives in Deuteronomy, 22:20-21, 22:25, 17:2-7, 13:1-11, 13:12-15, 18:20, 21:18-21, 19:15 - 21, 17:8-13. Let's not forget the directive you have broken here: Numbers 15:32-36. When do we start?

You should check out the wonderful(yes, I'm being sarcastic) link that David posted........nothing like following a group just because you have a need to not feel bad about who you are!!!

I truly feel sorry for someone like David.......he probably is a good person, but he hates himself so much because of who he is and he can't find peace within himself......truly sad:(

RnL2008 wrote:

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Sorry David.......but YOUR interpretations of what the bible does or doesn't condemn is just that.....YOUR INTERPRETATIONS!!!
I seriously doubt you follow every scripture in every chapter in your precious book......so, until you can follow your own bible and what supposedly someone wrote.......kindly don't expect others too!!!
Personally......I have no need for your book of fairy tales.......and I am quite good with my spiritual and religious beliefs......and I have no issues facing G-D on my judgment day:-)

You reject the Bible, so you're just a troll here. As for what it says, try reading it. It clearly and repeated condemns all homosexual behavior in the clearest of terms. To try to deny this reality is to deny the Bible itself. No one has been able to cite any legitimate translation that places this fact in question.

As for 'interpretation,' you need to get a dictionary and see what that means. There is no logical way to 'interpret' the Bible's emphatic condemnations of all homosexual behavior in any other way. What you want to call my 'interpretation' is actually shared by nearly all of the world's Christians.

Rick in Kansas wrote:

<quoted text>Leviticus 20:10-12, 20:20, 20:9, 24:14, 20:18, 17:10 and let's not forget the directives in Deuteronomy, 22:20-21, 22:25, 17:2-7, 13:1-11, 13:12-15, 18:20, 21:18-21, 19:15 - 21, 17:8-13. Let's not forget the directive you have broken here: Numbers 15:32-36. When do we start?

What is your point? That we don't stone people to death any more? Whatever your beef, I agree with all the transgressions described there. I agree that they are wrong and sins. Jesus gave us a new way to deal with them. Atonement and forgiveness. The same atonement and forgiveness that is offered to practicing homosexuals. That means of dealing with them, however, does NOT change the fact that those verses are describing behavior that is wrong and that grieves God. They are just as wrong today as they were when those words were written. If you think it is different about homosexual behavior then you must also think it is A-OK for a man to sleep with his mother or his sister.

As for what I did, do you mean violating the Sabbath by writing here? The Sabbath is Saturday for Jews. I am not Jewish.

Lacon wrote:

<quoted text>You reject the Bible, so you're just a troll here. As for what it says, try reading it. It clearly and repeated condemns all homosexual behavior in the clearest of terms. To try to deny this reality is to deny the Bible itself. No one has been able to cite any legitimate translation that places this fact in question.
As for 'interpretation,' you need to get a dictionary and see what that means. There is no logical way to 'interpret' the Bible's emphatic condemnations of all homosexual behavior in any other way. What you want to call my 'interpretation' is actually shared by nearly all of the world's Christians.

Reading Comprehension ISN'T one of your strong points, is it?

Yes, I clearly REJECT the bible.......to me it is nothing more than a fairy tale with some interesting stories, but certainly NOTHING that I would live my life by!!!

Well, gee that was a stretch, wasn't it? I reject the bible for many many reasons and NONE of them have anything to do with your claim. Besides, biblical scholars seem to not be able to agree with your claim about the bible being clear on Homosexuality. I mean it's clear on male prostitution, it's clear on not eating certain types of animal and it's certainly clear on men not raping other men.......BUT IT IS NOT CLEAR ON HOMOSEXUALITY, NOR LESBIANISM!!!

Your interpretations might be shared by "NEARLY" all Christians......BUT it certainly in not shared by "ALL" Christians and even if it was......WHO THE FRUCK CARES BECAUSE WE ARE NOT A THEOCRACY and your religious beliefs are still JUST YOUR BELIEFS!!!

I know many Christians who disagree with you and your interpretations of the bible, are they wrong?

RnL2008 wrote:

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Reading Comprehension ISN'T one of your strong points, is it?
Yes, I clearly REJECT the bible.......to me it is nothing more than a fairy tale with some interesting stories, but certainly NOTHING that I would live my life by!!!
Well, gee that was a stretch, wasn't it? I reject the bible for many many reasons and NONE of them have anything to do with your claim. Besides, biblical scholars seem to not be able to agree with your claim about the bible being clear on Homosexuality. I mean it's clear on male prostitution, it's clear on not eating certain types of animal and it's certainly clear on men not raping other men.......BUT IT IS NOT CLEAR ON HOMOSEXUALITY, NOR LESBIANISM!!!
Your interpretations might be shared by "NEARLY" all Christians......BUT it certainly in not shared by "ALL" Christians and even if it was......WHO THE FRUCK CARES BECAUSE WE ARE NOT A THEOCRACY and your religious beliefs are still JUST YOUR BELIEFS!!!
I know many Christians who disagree with you and your interpretations of the bible, are they wrong?

I mean really, you're posting about something you know nothing of. No legitimate translation agrees with what you seem to want to believe. No legitimate scholarship does either. Such nonsense is not supported by any ancient text or even ancient tradition. The Bible is what it is and it explicitly and emphatically condemns all homosexual behavior. Since Christianity is based on the Bible, anyone who rejects this reality really isn't submitting their life to God's Will and therefore is not a Christian. Play any word games you want, but that is the bottom line. To deny the Bible's commands is to deny the Bible and is to deny Jesus. It's as simple as that.

Lacon wrote:

<quoted text>I mean really, you're posting about something you know nothing of. No legitimate translation agrees with what you seem to want to believe. No legitimate scholarship does either. Such nonsense is not supported by any ancient text or even ancient tradition. The Bible is what it is and it explicitly and emphatically condemns all homosexual behavior. Since Christianity is based on the Bible, anyone who rejects this reality really isn't submitting their life to God's Will and therefore is not a Christian. Play any word games you want, but that is the bottom line. To deny the Bible's commands is to deny the Bible and is to deny Jesus. It's as simple as that.

Then you must agree that snakes talk, incest was okay(not once, but twice), some man built an Ark and gathered animals by 2, and all of the other stuff that supposedly took place, right? How did dinosaurs exist on the Earth if it's only 6000 years old? How do you explain the ages of the Hawaiian Islands?

See, you can't......but you certainly will continue to try........and you won't accomplish what you are trying to do........you read your bible........and you live by it if that's what you need to do......but don't expect me to do the same!!!