Hate crimes against gays rose 11%

UNALIENABLE wrote:

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Homosexual Man: Gay Lifestyle a "Sewer" of Casual Degrading Sex
Homosexual U.K. Documentarian Says Gay Lifestyle a "Sewer" of A British homosexual journalist did the documentary!!!! Nothing to do with Christianity!!!!

Nothing to do with Christianity? Then why was the story published on so many Christian sites? I'll admit I didn't find it on WND, but it was on plenty of them. Including
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/sep/0809... ;
So, that story can be dismissed.
Next.

JRobert wrote:

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Insult, insult, insult. Deny, deny, deny. Accuse everyone of (gasp!) Christianity.
I've not only read the story, but I've written numerous times why it's a lie. The only response you're capable of producing? "I deny it, you stupid, mean Christian."
Pathetic.

Um, I've posted a link to the story so people can find it easily, and see that it's not a lie, you stupid, mean Christian.

UNALIENABLE wrote:

A U.S. Justice Department study found an epidemic of violence between homosexuals:

Where did you find this story?
Oh, look, it's from a Christian hate site!
What a shock.
http://www.connectionmagazine.org/index.htm
Hatred of gays is more important to Christians than the words of Jesus. Prove me wrong...

JRobert wrote:

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Why? Although a quote is a quote, you've just proven that unless the link is to an approved homosexual activist you won't accept it.
If you want the source, admit that a quote is a quote.

I found the source.
And, no, a quote is not a quote. Source matters.

ACLU-Tom wrote:

Actually, Bobby, if you bothered to read and understand, hate crimes of all types are probably under-reported by far more than the 11% increase from 2007 to 2008.
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The story, anti-American Tom, is based on FBI reports. The FBI said "The FBI does not compare year-to-year trends in hate crimes, saying the number of agencies reporting changes too much. In fact, the bureau cautioned that the increase reported Monday might well be due to more agencies tracking such incidents."

Reading an "11%" increase into that is a flat out lie. The headline and the intent of the story is to create a false impression, and the whiny paranoids it was directed at sucked it right up.

Rose wrote:

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Typical con dumb. You are shown to be an ignorant fool, so you try to change the subject. No matter how you feel about SB 1313, it has nothing to do with hate crimes. And nothing to do with any choices I've made. Do yourself a favor, and learn the definition of a hate crime.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2007/index.html

Seriously, why do you think you are hated???? Why do you think you need SPECIAL protection? Are you better off if you are murdered out of hate or out of love? If I hate you enough to kill you, will ANY level of punishment deter me? The whole thing is liberal feel good crap. Let's get to the bottom of the issue and identify why you are hated. OOOOPS, it is because of the nasty choices you make that turns people's stomachs so much they want you removed from their presence...permanently. So maybe let's deal with the CAUSE. Gee, the liberals always want to let terrorists go and blame US for why 9-11 happened, why not in THIS case? liberals are sooo inconsistent.

Rose wrote:

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I found the source.
And, no, a quote is not a quote. Source matters.

"The" source? Voellers quote from his book "Some Uses and Abuses of the Kinsey Scale" (regarding the homosexual communities' deliberate 10% lie)is on HUNDREDS of sites.

Rose wrote:

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...you stupid, mean Christian.

Not that facts ever matter to you, Rose, but I've told you several times that I don't use Christianity in my arguments. That's because I'm not a Christian. Sorry to take another of your childish hate-toys away.

JRobert wrote:

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Roisia, the headline for this thread is a deliberate lie, designed to frighten people like you and to justify the recent hate crime law. Read the story and you'll see that the FBI said the numbers that supposedly show an increase are probably wrong.

Not my point.

No one complained about Hate crimes until they added Sexuality and gender identity. Which means its not ok to kill a christian or a white person or a man or a woman because of what they are. But it is more acceptable to kill a gay person or a transgendered person.

What you all are saying is our lives are less valuable then yours. Im not as human as you! If i got killed brutally you wouldn't spare me a second thought. But if a woman was killed for being a woman then there will be hell to pay for the person who did it. Thats my point.

JRobert wrote:

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Roisia, the headline for this thread is a deliberate lie, designed to frighten people like you and to justify the recent hate crime law. Read the story and you'll see that the FBI said the numbers that supposedly show an increase are probably wrong.

I was wrong.

This quote OBVIOUSLY means that the numbers were actually less.

"The quality of the data is so variable and in some instances so bad that it makes trend analysis extraordinarily difficult, if not impossible," said Levin. "Generally, states that have effective data collection also have effective training and procedures to address these crimes."

Because it couldnt possibly mean that its more or the same. After all the quality of the data being variable always means less.

GAY CONSPIRACY!!!!! FIGHT THE GAY AGENDA TO USE VARIABLE DATA!!!!!!

Brian Levin, director for the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University-San Bernardino, warned that the national numbers may be misleading because some states — like California, New Jersey, and Ohio — are good at reporting hate crimes while others — Georgia, Hawaii, Mississippi and Pennsylvania — are not.

With all states not reporting date well, the numbers are low, meaning that there are probably far more hate crimes committed than the FBI stats show.

As for who is "anti-American", I'm the one who supports equal treatment under law, you're on the side of hatred and discrimination.

JRobert wrote:

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The story, anti-American Tom, is based on FBI reports. The FBI said "The FBI does not compare year-to-year trends in hate crimes, saying the number of agencies reporting changes too much. In fact, the bureau cautioned that the increase reported Monday might well be due to more agencies tracking such incidents."
Reading an "11%" increase into that is a flat out lie. The headline and the intent of the story is to create a false impression, and the whiny paranoids it was directed at sucked it right up.

Rose wrote:

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Where did you find this story?
Oh, look, it's from a Christian hate site!
What a shock.
http://www.connectionmagazine.org/index.htm
Hatred of gays is more important to Christians than the words of Jesus. Prove me wrong...

Here you go read this stuff!

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Climent, C.E., Ervin, F.R., Rollins, A., Plutchik, R., and Batinelli, C.J.,“Epidemiological studies of female prisoners,” The Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, 164 (1977) 25-29.

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Lambda Report, July 1995, p. 3.

Valente, R.,“Same-sex marriage in perspective,” Social Justice Review, 95 1-2 (2004) 5-6.

The Homosexual Agenda

"It is also a chance to wholly transform the definition of family in American culture. It is the final tool with which to dismantle all sodomy statutes, get education about homosexuality and AIDS into public schools, and, in short, usher in a sea change in how society views and treats us. "Michelangelo Signorile, "I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do," OUT magazine, May 1996.

“Being queer is more than setting up house, sleeping with a person of the same gender and seeking state approval for doing so…Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality, and family, and in the process, transforming the very fabric of society…We must keep our eyes on the goals of providing true alternatives to marriage and radically reordering society’s view of reality.”(Paula Ettelbrick, nationally renowned lesbian lawyer and Chair of International Gay & Lesbian Human Rights Commission.)

Above quotes can all be found at http://www.nogaymarriage.com/talkingpoints.ht...

In 1972 the National Coalition of Gay Organizations demanded the ‘repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless of sex or numbers.’ No. Group marriage could comprise any combination of genders.”— Judith Levine, Why Gay Marriage Isn’t Radical Enough,” http://www.nogaymarriage.com/talkingpoints.ht... .

The 1972 Gay Rights Platform also called for abolishing age of consent laws.

http://www.nogaymarriage.com/talkingpoints.ht... .

Liberal columnist Michael Kinsley wrote in July 2003 in The Washington Post titled.“[The solution is to end the institution of government monopoly on marriage. And yes, if three people want to get married, or one person wants to marry herself and someone else wants to conduct a ceremony and declare them married, let ’em.”

GLSEN,[Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network] is stepping up its efforts to establish homosexual clubs on all school campuses. Their goals "extend to incorporating homosexual concepts into all curriculum, holding diversity seminars for teachers and students and ensuring that only positive discussions about homosexuality are allowed into elementary school classrooms, including kindergarten." http://www.newswithviews.com/NWVexclusive/exc... .

obama muslim terrorist wrote:

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Seriously, why do you think you are hated????

My big tits?

obama muslim terrorist wrote:

Why do you think you need SPECIAL protection? Are you better off if you are murdered out of hate or out of love? If I hate you enough to kill you, will ANY level of punishment deter me? The whole thing is liberal feel good crap. Let's get to the bottom of the issue and identify why you are hated. OOOOPS, it is because of the nasty choices you make that turns people's stomachs so much they want you removed from their presence...permanently. So maybe let's deal with the CAUSE. Gee, the liberals always want to let terrorists go and blame US for why 9-11 happened, why not in THIS case? liberals are sooo inconsistent.

You are so stupid. Why don't you look up the definition of a hate crime? There is no special protection. ALL people are equally protected by hate crime laws. If someone beats the crap out of you because you are straight, you are protected just like a gay person who is beaten for being gay.

Typical blame the victim con dumb. If people don't like the nasty choices I've made, they are free to mind their own business. You can't get laid, can you? If you had a satisfying sex life, you wouldn't care about what others get up to.
I'm here in the San Fernando Valley. Porn capital of the US. Think there is sick stuff going on around me that isn't like totally gross, and, like, totally being filmed? Like, of course there is! Do I hate the people doing it? No.

hmmm wrote:

White hetrosexual males are the only members of amerikan society that have no special protections.

Due to white str8 male privlidge...none are needed.

Acute HIV Infection --- New York City, 2008

Acute human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection (AHI) is a highly infectious phase of disease that lasts approximately 2 months and is characterized by nonspecific clinical symptoms (1). AHI contributes disproportionately to HIV transmission because it is associated with a high level of viremia, despite negative or indeterminate antibody (Ab) tests (2). Diagnosis of AHI with individual or pooled nucleic acid amplification tests (p-NAAT) can enable infected persons to adopt behaviors that reduce HIV transmission, facilitate partner referral for counseling and testing, and identify social networks of persons with elevated rates of HIV transmission (3). The national HIV surveillance case definition does not distinguish AHI from other stages of HIV infection (4), and the frequency of AHI among reported HIV cases is unknown. In 2008, to increase detection of AHI and demonstrate the feasibility of AHI surveillance, the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene (NYC DOHMH) initiated p-NAAT screening at four sexually transmitted disease (STD) clinics and enhanced citywide HIV surveillance (using a standard case definition) to differentiate AHI among newly reported cases. Seventy cases of AHI (representing 1.9% of all 3,635 HIV diagnoses reported in New York City) were identified: 53 cases from enhanced surveillance and 17 cases from p-NAAT screening (representing 9% of 198 HIV diagnoses at the four clinics). Men who have sex with men (MSM) constituted 81% of AHI cases. Screening STD clinic patients, especially MSM, with p-NAAT can identify additional cases of HIV infection. Surveillance for AHI is feasible and can identify circumstances in which HIV prevention efforts should be intensified.

Screening for AHI in Four STD Clinics

NYC DOHMH operates nine STD clinics in the five boroughs of New York City.* All clinics offer rapid HIV-Ab screening on blood specimens. In May 2008, NYC DOHMH began phasing in routine p-NAAT screening for AHI at four New York City STD clinics, beginning at Jamaica in Queens, then Chelsea in Manhattan and Fort Greene in Brooklyn in June, and finally Morrisania in the Bronx in November. Clinics were selected because of their HIV testing volume (39,000 [65%] of all HIV tests performed at New York City STD clinics in 2007) and availability of space to process the additional laboratory specimens. Testing was conducted by a commercial vendor.† Specimens from all patients whose rapid HIV-Ab test was negative were tested by polymerase chain reaction in pools of 512 specimens. If the pool was negative for HIV RNA, all component specimens were classified as "presence of HIV not detected." If the pool was positive, component specimens were tested to identify which specimen(s) contained HIV RNA.

Men who have sex with men (MSM) constituted 81% of AHI cases!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm58...

HIV and AIDS among Gay and Bisexual Men

MSM account for nearly half of the more than one million people living with HIV in the U.S.(48%, or an estimated 532,000 total persons).
MSM account for more than half of all new HIV infections in the U.S. each year (53%, or an estimated 28,700 infections).
MSM is the only risk group in the U.S. in which new HIV infections are increasing. While new infections have declined among both heterosexuals and injection drug users, the annual number of new HIV infections among MSM has been steadily increasing since the early 1990s.
According to the latest estimates, white MSM represent a greater number of new HIV infections than any other population, followed closely by black MSM — who are one of the most disproportionately affected subgroups in the U.S.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/Fast...

UNALIENABLE wrote:

The Homosexual Agenda
"It is also a chance to wholly transform the definition of family ...
Above quotes can all be found at http://www.nogaymarriage.com/talkingpoints.ht...

These quotes can be found at Christian hate sites? Who wudda thunk?
BTW, why are you posting this off topic stuff?
Do you think there are more Christian sites aimed at spreading hate/fear of gay people, or feeding the poor (like Jesus commanded)?
My guess is spreading hate/fear of gay people.
Look at the threads in the Christian forum. Half of them are about how much Christians hate gay people. How many are about feeding and clothing the poor? Zip. Nadda. Zilch.
"For I was hungry, and you didn't feed me. I was thirsty, and you didn't give me a drink." Matthew 25:24
Guess Jesus knew what Christians would be like!
Jesus talked about taking care of the poor. He didn't say anything about hating gay people. Guess hatred of gays is more important to Christians than the very words of Jesus.
Prove me wrong!

UNALIENABLE wrote:

HIV and AIDS among Gay and Bisexual Men
MSM account for nearly half of the more than one million people living with HIV in the U.S.(

More proof Christianity = hate + ignorance.
Who will prove me wrong?

Sean D wrote:

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Due to white str8 male privlidge...none are needed.

Actually, if you look at the stats, white straight males are victims of hate crimes. About 18% of race based hate crimes are aimed at whites, and around 2% of sexual orientation based hate crimes are aimed at straights.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2007/victims.htm