Question for atheists: is "God did it" a science stopper?, part 1 of 4

graist wrote:

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So, how big was the land mass? Did they all live in a nice little community from the first cell until they became a human? Maybe they were isolated to the size of Texas? Even then, HOW did they all pass on the same positive mutations until they became humans with all Identical anatomy?

Are you trying on purpose not to understand evolution? Humans arose out of Africa. That does not mean that evolution for other species could not take place elsewhere.

There is so much wrong with your understanding of evolution that you would best be served by forgetting everything you ever heard about it. Especially if you were told it by a Christian preacher of some sort.

There is no point in trying to help you until you drop your false misconceptions.

If I claimed: "Christians, what a bunch of idiots!! They believe that if you nail somebody to a tree that they will live forever!" You would rightfully be insulted and claim I don't understand Christian beliefs. You are ten times worse when it comes to evolution. Evolution does not disprove Christianity. It only disproves certain false beliefs

graist wrote:

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HOW. There is no evidence in the fossil record of ANY transitional life form. There are no ape-humans because there never were any ape-humans. It is all a fairy tale.

Again, you are wrong. All fossils are "transitional life forms". The idea of a transitional fossil is bit of a fallacy promulgated by anti-evolutionists. We have found quite a few ancestors that are between us and other apes. Oh, by the way, people are technically apes too, just in case you didn't know.

When you claim "fairy tale" I interpret that as "I don't understand".

Keep trying. You might learn something here.

Aura Mytha wrote:

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http://arxiv.org/pdf/0711.1824v3.pdf

While this is a paper by the same authors, it does not appear to be on that topic. In this paper, they describe how a 'Big Crunch' could transition into a 'Big Bang' through quantum effects. No other universe is mentioned.

graist wrote:

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Oh,, I see. An entire generation of ape-humans throughout the entire globe slowly adapted at the same time with all the same anatomy so that all the humans all turned out the same. Hmmmmm nice fairytale.

No. Several generations of apes in Africa evolved and *then* spread to other areas of the globe. We are all their descendants.

graist wrote:

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Nothing made something out of nothing and it evolved into a human and all the humans are anatomically the same. Fairytale that has nothing to do with an religous text except for "The Origin of Species".

And it has nothing to do with what the theory of evolution actually says.

graist wrote:

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So, how big was the land mass? Did they all live in a nice little community from the first cell until they became a human?

Why would you think that? The population that represents the last common ancestor of modern humans and modern apes was fairly recent: long, long after any single celled stage.

Maybe they were isolated to the size of Texas? Even then, HOW did they all pass on the same positive mutations until they became humans with all Identical anatomy?

Really? Humans have identical anatomy? We are all the same height, same weight, no variations in length or thickness of bones, no differences in ability to digest different food, no differences in athletic ability, intellectual ability, or any other abilities. Right.

Evolution happens because populations are not uniform: different individuals react to the same environment in different ways. natural selection means that those who are better adapted to a particular environment are more likely to be able to pass on their genes to the next generation. As the environment changes over time, so do the characteristics of the population: we get new species over many, many generations.

graist wrote:

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I am a Anti-Evolutionist. Evolution is stupid and makes no sense.

Only to those who lack the education to understand it.

graist wrote:

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That is retarded. If frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their but when they jumped. If frogs had shotguns eagles wouldn't mess with them.
Millions of humans throughout history have known and experienced God. It doesn't matter when they were born or where they lived.

All of the gods have been "experienced"
Proof that none of them are the one true good.

graist wrote:

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Your childish ignorance is what is funny. I think your mommy is telling you it is time to get off the computer.

Childish ignorance??
LOL!! This coming from a godbot who doesn't understand evolution or it's base concepts. LOL!

Maybe that's Jebus telling me to get off the computer!! I can be a godbot like you now and claim I have "experienced" Jebus. You know.... Just wish real hard, and before you know it, you';; have an "experience"!!

graist wrote:

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Ah, so they passed on the favorable mutations by reproduction. How? Did mutant A from the Germany area meet mutant B from the Italy area get together because they had the same favorable mutation? Did all the mutations happen to the same group over millions of years? Did you not need the mate to have the favorable mutation, just you?
Why do you want to talk about religion? Your religion of evolution not doing it for you?

WHy are you on Topix trying to learn something you should have learned in 7th grade? This is really basic stuff you're getting wrong.
Are you:
A: In fourth grade
B: Home-schooled
C: Stupid
D: A willfully ignorant godbot
E: All of the above

I'm betting on 'E'

graist wrote:

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Another highly educated name caller. Your mommy will be proud.

In this case, the name calling is acceptable since he is 100% accurate.

graist wrote:

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Darwin wrote "The Origin of the Species". Hello, Evolutionary theory is a theory of how life began you just showed your ignorance.

Obviously you never read it since you have just demonstrated your ignorance of what it says.

Does it hurt to be so ignorant?

graist wrote:

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HOW. There is no evidence in the fossil record of ANY transitional life form. There are no ape-humans because there never were any ape-humans. It is all a fairy tale.

Oh look!! He doesn't know anything about the fossil record either!!
Why doesn't that surprise me?

Graist reminds me of this...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-pas...

The difference, though, is he thinks he has the QED arguments to debunk the Theory of Evolution of what he thinks the Theory is.

greymouser wrote:

Graist reminds me of this...
http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-pas...
The difference, though, is he thinks he has the QED arguments to debunk the Theory of Evolution of what he thinks the Theory is.

Oh, that's brilliantly written.

And describes most of the godbots on topix...

All human anatomy is identical. No doctor has to learn several different types of human anatomy. The heart and all the arteries are all in the same place. The kedneys work the same in all humans. The eyes all work the same in all humans. The ears all work the same in all humans.

If we evolved slowly over time starting with a single celled organism that became an ape then an ape-human then,,,,,,

HOW on a land mass the size of Africa did all the ape-humans evolve at the same rate with the same amount of positive mutations at the same time. Did they all live in the same community for several hundreds of thousands of years?

Laugh it up all of you very smart people. Evolution as a Theory, which is a guess that cannot be proven, is a fairy tale.

Here is just a little of what I found when I searched the following question: Is ape anatamomy the same as human anatomy?

However, DNA comparisons provide convincing evidence that within the subfamily Homininae, gorillas are the outgroup. This suggests that chimpanzees should be in Hominini along with humans. This classification was first proposed (though one rank lower) by M. Goodman et al. in 1990.[2] See Human evolutionary genetics for more information on the speciation of humans and "great apes".

Later DNA comparisons split the gibbon genus Hylobates into four genera: Hylobates, Hoolock, Nomascus, and Symphalangus.[1][14]

How did the gods of evolution keep them all in the same area to evolve so that all the humans are anatomically the same?

graist wrote:

All human anatomy is identical. No doctor has to learn several different types of human anatomy. The heart and all the arteries are all in the same place. The kedneys work the same in all humans. The eyes all work the same in all humans. The ears all work the same in all humans.
If we evolved slowly over time starting with a single celled organism that became an ape then an ape-human then,,,,,,
HOW on a land mass the size of Africa did all the ape-humans evolve at the same rate with the same amount of positive mutations at the same time. Did they all live in the same community for several hundreds of thousands of years?
Laugh it up all of you very smart people. Evolution as a Theory, which is a guess that cannot be proven, is a fairy tale.
Here is just a little of what I found when I searched the following question: Is ape anatamomy the same as human anatomy?
However, DNA comparisons provide convincing evidence that within the subfamily Homininae, gorillas are the outgroup. This suggests that chimpanzees should be in Hominini along with humans. This classification was first proposed (though one rank lower) by M. Goodman et al. in 1990.[2] See Human evolutionary genetics for more information on the speciation of humans and "great apes".
Later DNA comparisons split the gibbon genus Hylobates into four genera: Hylobates, Hoolock, Nomascus, and Symphalangus.[1][14]
How did the gods of evolution keep them all in the same area to evolve so that all the humans are anatomically the same?

All tetrapods have basically the same anatomy, so that much is a given. I thought it was explained to you that there were several
species of hominids alive at the same time once, but they all died out except for Homo Sapiens. If you were to isolate a group of humans completely for several thousand years they most likely would start to branch differently than the rest of humanity.
This is evident when you look at races such a pygmies and aborigines who have their own distinctive features from such isolation from the rest of the human genome.

graist wrote:

All human anatomy is identical. No doctor has to learn several different types of human anatomy. The heart and all the arteries are all in the same place. The kedneys work the same in all humans. The eyes all work the same in all humans. The ears all work the same in all humans.
If we evolved slowly over time starting with a single celled organism that became an ape then an ape-human then,,,,,,
HOW on a land mass the size of Africa did all the ape-humans evolve at the same rate with the same amount of positive mutations at the same time. Did they all live in the same community for several hundreds of thousands of years?
Laugh it up all of you very smart people. Evolution as a Theory, which is a guess that cannot be proven, is a fairy tale.
Here is just a little of what I found when I searched the following question: Is ape anatamomy the same as human anatomy?
However, DNA comparisons provide convincing evidence that within the subfamily Homininae, gorillas are the outgroup. This suggests that chimpanzees should be in Hominini along with humans. This classification was first proposed (though one rank lower) by M. Goodman et al. in 1990.[2] See Human evolutionary genetics for more information on the speciation of humans and "great apes".
Later DNA comparisons split the gibbon genus Hylobates into four genera: Hylobates, Hoolock, Nomascus, and Symphalangus.[1][14]
How did the gods of evolution keep them all in the same area to evolve so that all the humans are anatomically the same?

How's the weather there in fantasyland?
Obviously you live in a world of your own, where they don't teach evolution, or they teach some goofy form that isn't anything like the TOE here in the real world.

Let me make a suggestion. Read a REAL book about evolution that wasn't written by some fundie, nut job.
Than post here. Until then, you are rapidly becoming the laughing stock of Topix.

Aura Mytha wrote:

<quoted text> All tetrapods have basically the same anatomy, so that much is a given. I thought it was explained to you that there were several
species of hominids alive at the same time once, but they all died out except for Homo Sapiens. If you were to isolate a group of humans completely for several thousand years they most likely would start to branch differently than the rest of humanity.
This is evident when you look at races such a pygmies and aborigines who have their own distinctive features from such isolation from the rest of the human genome.

No, pygmies, aborigines have the exact, identical anatomy as other humans.

Aura Mytha wrote:

All tetrapods have basically the same anatomy, so that much is a given.

Basically isn't the Identical anatomy that ALL humans enjoy. There is not one human that has a different anatomy.
HOW did all of the humans evolve all the same?

The serpent was right wrote:

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How's the weather there in fantasyland?
Obviously you live in a world of your own, where they don't teach evolution, or they teach some goofy form that isn't anything like the TOE here in the real world.
Let me make a suggestion. Read a REAL book about evolution that wasn't written by some fundie, nut job.
Than post here. Until then, you are rapidly becoming the laughing stock of Topix.

It realy is sad that you cannot answer the question so you have to insult. Go ahead and insult and laugh. Evolution still makes no sense and is a fairy tale.