It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

David wrote:

God was God's name just as his name was Stephen. Dieu was the French for God and that was God's name too; and when anyone prayed to God and said Dieu then God knew at once that it was a French person that was praying. But though there were different names for God in all the different languages in the world and God understood what all the people who prayed said in their different languages still God remained always the same God and God's real name was God.

That's not what the Bible says.

David wrote:

God was God's name just as his name was Stephen. Dieu was the French for God and that was God's name too; and when anyone prayed to God and said Dieu then God knew at once that it was a French person that was praying. But though there were different names for God in all the different languages in the world and God understood what all the people who prayed said in their different languages still God remained always the same God and God's real name was God.

You are welcome to stay if you like, but get off the drugs.

David wrote:

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failed to support

If you need support go get a bra.

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text>Eye opener to you and not to me...
Forget about my educational level,this is something we all met here and when we die,we are not going to go with it...
Science has done alot to humanity,no doubt about that,but in the aspect of creation,science is zero...
The ancients were living witnesses to what they wrote and passed down to us...
They also got informations from their parents or ancestors,science can not stop this,never!

How would YOU know? Learn a bit more, and you'll find out just how much you DON'T know now!

The ancients weren't around when the Earth formed, and life first appeared... they guessed!

Dogen wrote:

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The Dunning-Kruger effect in a nutshell!

A VERY common situation!:)

David wrote:

All mutations that have been observed in human beings have had deleterious results. All mutations that take place in humans result in physical deformities, in infirmities such as mongolism, Down syndrome, albinism, dwarfism or cancer....

No... Most mutations do little or nothing; some make things better...some make things worse.

FossilBob wrote:

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A VERY common situation!:)

Very very common. Plato commented on this effect in his Republic, I believe.

Dogen wrote:

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You are welcome to stay if you like, but get off the drugs.

I hardly need your welcoming to "stay" lol
And I leave the drugs to you and your religious atheists here.

Dogen wrote:

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If you need support go get a bra.

You asked that I provide links. You don't = You have no support. Also, I don't need your "welcome to stay" - it's a public forum.

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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That's not what the Bible says.

All of a sudden you don't like James Joyce. Make your mind up.

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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I have a long-standing tradition of listening to smart people

Thank you.

The Great Evolutionist Faith

Both Creation and evolution are religious views. The issue is not religion vs. science, but religion vs. religion. Any concept regarding origins is not scientific, in that origins were not and cannot be observed, repeated or verified. Scientists can only deal with present evidence. The choice of which theory to accept becomes a matter of faith. To accept something without evidence requires faith. Hebrews 11:1-3 states,“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen…By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.” The Christian believes that God created the universe, life and man, while the evolutionist believes that the universe, life and man somehow evolved without any supernatural direction.“Evolution cannot be proved or tested, it can only be believed.” This is truly an example of great faith. Considering the majesty, beauty and complexity of the earth and universe, it is relatively easy to believe in Creation. But to believe that dead matter could create life, and have absolutely no evidence, requires faith of another order: great faith. Some believe that a cosmic egg of energy exploded to form chemical elements, stars , galaxies and finally people. Some even have the faith to believe that life was planted on earth by an unknown civilization from outer space. Since evolution cannot be observed, repeated or verified, it is no more “scientific” and no less “religious” than Creation. Darwinists have a strong zeasl to evangelize the world with their theory, making it into a religion. They see evolution as a light which illuminates all facts. To them evolution is the god they worship.

Dogen wrote:

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Very very common. Plato commented on this effect in his Republic, I believe.

We can't have any "I believes" from you - need the evidence. That's all that counts here.

David wrote:

The Great Evolutionist Faith
Both Creation and evolution are religious views. The issue is not religion vs. science, but religion vs. religion. Any concept regarding origins is not scientific, in that origins were not and cannot be observed, repeated or verified. Scientists can only deal with present evidence. The choice of which theory to accept becomes a matter of faith. To accept something without evidence requires faith. Hebrews 11:1-3 states,“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen…By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.” The Christian believes that God created the universe, life and man, while the evolutionist believes that the universe, life and man somehow evolved without any supernatural direction.“Evolution cannot be proved or tested, it can only be believed.” This is truly an example of great faith. Considering the majesty, beauty and complexity of the earth and universe, it is relatively easy to believe in Creation. But to believe that dead matter could create life, and have absolutely no evidence, requires faith of another order: great faith. Some believe that a cosmic egg of energy exploded to form chemical elements, stars , galaxies and finally people. Some even have the faith to believe that life was planted on earth by an unknown civilization from outer space. Since evolution cannot be observed, repeated or verified, it is no more “scientific” and no less “religious” than Creation. Darwinists have a strong zeasl to evangelize the world with their theory, making it into a religion. They see evolution as a light which illuminates all facts. To them evolution is the god they worship.

Wrong on all counts.

BTW, you do realize that the cosmic egg thing came from a Catholic prient, right?

David wrote:

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I hardly need your welcoming to "stay" lol
And I leave the drugs to you and your religious atheists here.

You and they are welcome to them.

What is your problem? Do you even know?

David wrote:

The Great Evolutionist Faith
Both Creation and evolution are religious views. The issue is not religion vs. science, but religion vs. religion. Any concept regarding origins is not scientific, in that origins were not and cannot be observed, repeated or verified. Scientists can only deal with present evidence. The choice of which theory to accept becomes a matter of faith. To accept something without evidence requires faith. Hebrews 11:1-3 states,“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen…By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.” The Christian believes that God created the universe, life and man, while the evolutionist believes that the universe, life and man somehow evolved without any supernatural direction.“Evolution cannot be proved or tested, it can only be believed.” This is truly an example of great faith. Considering the majesty, beauty and complexity of the earth and universe, it is relatively easy to believe in Creation. But to believe that dead matter could create life, and have absolutely no evidence, requires faith of another order: great faith. Some believe that a cosmic egg of energy exploded to form chemical elements, stars , galaxies and finally people. Some even have the faith to believe that life was planted on earth by an unknown civilization from outer space. Since evolution cannot be observed, repeated or verified, it is no more “scientific” and no less “religious” than Creation. Darwinists have a strong zeasl to evangelize the world with their theory, making it into a religion. They see evolution as a light which illuminates all facts. To them evolution is the god they worship.

You really are bronze age FAIRY TALE delusional, aren't you?

Also, why do you "fundamentalist christian and muslim creationists" LIE so much? Isn't LYING a sin in your religion? I know I read a "commandment" about it somewhere.

David wrote:

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We can't have any "I believes" from you - need the evidence. That's all that counts here.

Look it up yourself. I am here for the exchange of ideas, not to be your google search bot.

David wrote:

The Great Evolutionist Faith
Both Creation and evolution are religious views. The issue is not religion vs. science, but religion vs. religion. Any concept regarding origins is not scientific, in that origins were not and cannot be observed, repeated or verified. Scientists can only deal with present evidence. The choice of which theory to accept becomes a matter of faith. To accept something without evidence requires faith. Hebrews 11:1-3 states,“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen…By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.” The Christian believes that God created the universe, life and man, while the evolutionist believes that the universe, life and man somehow evolved without any supernatural direction.“Evolution cannot be proved or tested, it can only be believed.” This is truly an example of great faith. Considering the majesty, beauty and complexity of the earth and universe, it is relatively easy to believe in Creation. But to believe that dead matter could create life, and have absolutely no evidence, requires faith of another order: great faith. Some believe that a cosmic egg of energy exploded to form chemical elements, stars , galaxies and finally people. Some even have the faith to believe that life was planted on earth by an unknown civilization from outer space. Since evolution cannot be observed, repeated or verified, it is no more “scientific” and no less “religious” than Creation. Darwinists have a strong zeasl to evangelize the world with their theory, making it into a religion. They see evolution as a light which illuminates all facts. To them evolution is the god they worship.

This is simply not correct as any objective review of supporting science will demonstrate.

Dogen wrote:

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You and they are welcome to them.
What is your problem? Do you even know?

Perhaps he is impersonating a brain damaged fundie.

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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Perhaps he is impersonating a brain damaged fundie.

....and doing a wonderful job at that.

What a fine young man for doing so.

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... or woman.