Evolution vs. Creation

CBOW wrote:

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Do you agree with him?

The point is, do YOU?

He's got (according to the author) the word of GOD on his side.
HE's got Biblical verses and everything!

Why are YOU not on his side?

CBOW wrote:

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Fixed in a gravitational field?

No, moving in a gravitational field.

StellarKnight wrote:

Darwin knew Darwin was wrong.
He asked for and received LAST RITES on his death bed.

Let me guess.

The "Lady Hope" story?

Try again.

Look into it before you make a fool out of yourself.

Again.

CBOW wrote:

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Yet the earth remains in a constant orbit around the sun. That would be "fixed"......

Actually not. The sun moves in *its* orbit around our galaxy. The earth moves along with it. Furthermore, the earth's orbit is not a circle: it is closer to being an ellipse, but even that isn't completely accurate since the direction of the ellipse changes over time, as does the eccentricity, and the size of the semi-major axis. In other words, it is anything but *fixed*. In addition to being affected by the gravity from the sun and moon, it is also affected (much less so, true) by the gravity of the other planets.

StellarKnight wrote:

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Oh? A Biblical scholar we have here?
Finding fault out of context is easy science.
You do not read the Apocolypse very much or the Resurrection...or else it might dawn upon you we are living it.

Stellar, how are any of those predictions taken out of context? The sort of mental gymnastics needed to make them conform to history also makes them worthless as predictions. It is a lose lose situation for your side. It is better to take the honorable way out and admit that the Bible is not perfect.

dances with weebles wrote:

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you can use punctuation and line breaks, but other than that it's perfectly understandable and legible. you use a double space for paragraph breaks and an ellipsis or the occasional ponto e vírgula to separate thoughts.

I didn't ask him to wash that car.

*I* didn't ask him to wash that car.

I *didn't* ask him to wash that car.

I didn't *ask* him to wash that car.

I didn't ask *him* to wash that car.

I didn't ask him to *wash* that car.

I didn't ask him to wash *that* car.

I didn't ask him to wash that *car.*

Each of these means something different. Meaning is not derived merely by the words used. Without proper punctuation, grammar, spelling, and syntax, meaning must be inferred or, worse, guessed at. Engineers have little regard for language. Ever read something written by engineers, like a user manual? It's a pile of useless shit, because they can't figure out how to translate what they know from one person to another verbally. Instead, the world relies upon those of us who actually care about the language and how it's used to tell them how to do what they need to do.

Kong_ wrote:

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Let me guess.
The "Lady Hope" story?
Try again.
Look into it before you make a fool out of yourself.
Again.

LOL..

HAVE looked at it.

Darwin received last rites.

Subduction Zone wrote:

<quoted text>Stellar, how are any of those predictions taken out of context? The sort of mental gymnastics needed to make them conform to history also makes them worthless as predictions. It is a lose lose situation for your side. It is better to take the honorable way out and admit that the Bible is not perfect.

So the people in Damascus should not be concerned with the prophesy of their destruction?

Subduction Zone wrote:

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Stellar, how are any of those predictions taken out of context? The sort of mental gymnastics needed to make them conform to history also makes them worthless as predictions. It is a lose lose situation for your side. It is better to take the honorable way out and admit that the Bible is not perfect.

perfection is of itself a limitation.
The bible is not limited. Nor does it recognize honor lol

Faith is to the Heart...

as Sight is to the Eye.

StellarKnight wrote:

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perfection is of itself a limitation.
The bible is not limited. Nor does it recognize honor lol

Of course the Bible is limited. It has countless errors in it. And everybody knows that Christians are without honor. That is why we have to enforce laws against teaching its nonsense in public schools. If they had honor that would not be necessary.

It is nice to see that when you are challenged on the Bible that you supposedly believe in you have nothing.

what does one see in the image of the Sphinx? Where Mary and Joseph fled to the bossom of to escape the slaughter of all newborn males ordered killed by King Herod?

In Apocolyptic imagery there are four beasts around the Throne of God...A Ram.. Man...etc.

Lamb of God from both Hebrew and Koenig Greek and even Aramaic can be interpreted as RAM of God.

There is in the Sphinx also a Lion symbolized.

Now Darwin was a great bontanist. Given that. That is all lol

in evolution abscent contemporary intellectual discouse is missing the evolution of consciousness.

It is represented in history as the Bronze Age.. or Stone Age.. more recently the age of Enlightment or Age of Reason ( which by the way led to the French Revolution...for it is only reasonable to behead a King and Queen?)

The Industrial Age.. ala la Machine. Here comes to fruition in the advent of the Industrial age the materialistic conception of the world.

The Industrial Age began in the 1700s finding children sleeping over cisterns in England...ala la machine.

la machine now incorporated with technology is further advancing the dehumanization of mankind from the premise which speaks the mantra of 'survival of the fittest' beastial leveling of Human activity to the equation of a machine or computers output and or productions.

Since Whence Thou Has Fallen... So Hard The Bottom Hit!

Church Synod Constandinople 869 ad is the Template wherein both a Darwinism idea of origen would centuries later find root..but also the materialistic conception of the world would find foundation.

Subduction Zone wrote:

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Of course the Bible is limited. It has countless errors in it. And everybody knows that Christians are without honor. That is why we have to enforce laws against teaching its nonsense in public schools. If they had honor that would not be necessary.
It is nice to see that when you are challenged on the Bible that you supposedly believe in you have nothing.

Of Course? Or as a matter of course? And who were the Captains so called experts who charted the course of events which leads not only you perhaps but many others to strange and uncharted waters of presumption?

lol

I will gladly take all your inquiries when I begin my speaking engagements in April.

but?

your going to have to pay at the door.

not troll here on Topix.

so oh so learned scholarly sorts....

attempt before becoming critical of the Bible first to research the evolutionary transitions even the Bible has endured ie. gone through.

Really brain storm now would ya? lol

Church Synod Constandinople 869 ad

in street talk.. let me give the skinny of this Synod and its ramifications.

Up until this time...of 869 ad all the most learned of Mankind and CHurch Fathers * as they say, were of the understanding that Mankind was comprised or made of a 3 fold nature.

Body
Soul
Spirit

all equally.

In modern NOWADAYS terminology...lol this would be Mankind having;

A Physiological Constitution
A Psychological Constitution
and a Psycho-Spiritual Constitution

after this Synod? Mankind had only a physical and soul....no spiritual member.

this led to the materialistic conception of the world.

this led to the Inquisition!

this is now leading to TERMINATOR

StellarKnight wrote:

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LOL..
HAVE looked at it.
Darwin received last rites.

Where did you see that reference? He was buried in Westminster Abbey, but that certainly has nothing to do with "last rites"...

StellarKnight wrote:

lol
I will gladly take all your inquiries when I begin my speaking engagements in April.
but?
your going to have to pay at the door.
not troll here on Topix.

Maybe I should start charging...

Herod never killed babies as alleged in the Bible. Such an act could not have been ignored. Since there are no nonbiblical references to it the reasonable assumption is that it never happened.

There may have been a Jesus, but at least half of the fairy tales about him are simply made up. The others probably grew in the telling. Jesus was a man, and nothing more.