Three jailed over gay-hate leaflet

Khatru wrote:

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Agreed - we can't just make sweeping stereotypes of Christians/Muslims because of the behaviour of a few idiots.
It looks like you hold that killing gays is also a really bad idea and I couldn't agree more.
Do you also agree that "death to gays" has always been a bad idea? Even when it's advocated in the Old Testament?

As a Christian, under the new covenent, my goal should always be to point others to Christ in deed, and word. The Old Testament provides the history, and prophesies, that point to the coming of the Christ, and what is coming to man in the future. The New Testament does not advocate death to gays in the physical sense.

ralph wrote:

<quoted text>As a Christian, under the new covenent, my goal should always be to point others to Christ in deed, and word. The Old Testament provides the history, and prophesies, that point to the coming of the Christ, and what is coming to man in the future. The New Testament does not advocate death to gays in the physical sense.

Why do you apply your buybull babble - new testament or not - so selectively?

You have a homosexual obsession when there's so much adultery and lying and taking the lawd's name in vain and disrespecting parents....

Yet it's almost all about homosexuality for you talibangelical freeeks. Well, that and abortion. Now don't lie. It is.

Mitt s Airtight Dog Crate wrote:

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Why do you apply your buybull babble - new testament or not - so selectively?
You have a homosexual obsession when there's so much adultery and lying and taking the lawd's name in vain and disrespecting parents....
Yet it's almost all about homosexuality for you talibangelical freeeks. Well, that and abortion. Now don't lie. It is.

My widdle buddy from Phillie, Newt's airtite butt or whatever your name is at the monent. I have actually seen some lucid comments from you. I have a homosexual obsession? Nah. If you do not believe in the Bible, fine, I do. I will take the Bible over gaybull any day. However going into mature mode, the New Testament is the new covenent for those in Christ. If possible, could you answer a question maturely? The question is: If Christianity is a hoax, full of deluded people, why is such venom spewed against it?

ralph wrote:

<quoted text>If Christianity is a hoax, full of deluded people, why is such venom spewed against it?

That's idiocy, not a mature question.

First, the fundie talibangelicals who say they believe in the buybull actually only do so quite selectively. Sorry, if you're a fundie, it's the package deal, the whole works.(Even allowing for the convenient get out of jail free card allowing you to dismiss the Old Testament, or again, the parts of it that are convenient to dismiss. Other parts you still bray about.)

Second, fundie talibangelicals are a sick, anti rational subset of Christianity. I don't see Christianity as a hoax, I see homosexually obsessed fundierai$ing bigots as the hoax.

Third, even ignoring all that, the reason for my and many others antipathy towards irrational uber Christer bigots is that we don't wish a theocracy, buybull fundie xstain or otherwise.

You don't get to discriminate in places of public accommodations based simply on your sexually disordered reading/twisting of the Bible. Period.

Lastly, this is a bit afield from the story because the UK (and Canada) have very much more stringent laws regulating speech than we do in the US. I think I can live with the US system as far as political speech in purely public venues, for example, when sexually sick, imo, Michael Marcavage of "Repent America" calls for the deaths of homosexuals quite openly on the street. We laugh at the apparent closet case and his cult like, imo, follower-bigots.

Hope that helps, Jethro!

Mitt s Airtight Dog Crate wrote:

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I missed it! But since when does being a member of the Phelps kkklan, imo, make you an "atheist"?
And scum, normal people, young people, educated people, the Fortune 500 - all no problem with the general idea of sexual orientation or most glbt issues. Marriage equality will tale awhile yet, though, because the 75% or so who favor tend to be group in the under 35 demographic.

Could you repeat this in a way that makes sense?

FaithUSA wrote:

<quoted text>Could you repeat this in a way that makes sense?

Yes, you "religious" freeeks, or "religious" freeeks who are claiming they aren't "religious," are sexually disordered outliers now.

The entire culture is rejecting you, with more educated, younger and more secular persons leading the way.

Is that simple enough for you, you racist moron?

Mitt s Airtight Dog Crate wrote:

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Yes, you "religious" freeeks, or "religious" freeeks who are claiming they aren't "religious," are sexually disordered outliers now.
The entire culture is rejecting you, with more educated, younger and more secular persons leading the way.
Is that simple enough for you, you racist moron?

I am not religious. I'm not even homophobic. My original comments were anti-islamic....you gays just assume everything is all about you...so dramatic....so tortured. As for the racist part..uh...well...I'm xenophobic and bigoted....there is a difference.

FaithUSA wrote:

<quoted text>I am not religious. I'm not even homophobic. My original comments were anti-islamic....you gays just assume everything is all about you...so dramatic....so tortured. As for the racist part..uh...well...I'm xenophobic and bigoted....there is a difference.

Now I've read your homophobic and racist posts.

When you specify that the foreigners you dislike as being from non white majority countries we know that your claimed "xenophobia" is racism.

I still thought I saw you with some Franco type Catholics in another thread attacking Muslims on "religious" grounds - suggesting you're a "religious" freeek - but perhaps you were just being racist. Time will tell.

Mitt s Airtight Dog Crate wrote:

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Now I've read your homophobic and racist posts.
When you specify that the foreigners you dislike as being from non white majority countries we know that your claimed "xenophobia" is racism.
I still thought I saw you with some Franco type Catholics in another thread attacking Muslims on "religious" grounds - suggesting you're a "religious" freeek - but perhaps you were just being racist. Time will tell.

Well, that is an interesting question. I hadn't really thought of it. While I am in no way religious myself, I do identify myself as a "Christian" when it comes to taking sides against muslims.....and, of course, I despise muslims because of their barbarity and savage acts of terrorism throughout the world...and particularly the 9/11 attack. At any rate. Everyone is racist...EVERYONE. Blacks are racist, Asians are racist, Indians, Pacific Islanders. It is just considered "politically incorrect" for white people to be so. Somehow, we are supposed to inherit some type of cultural guilt regardless of our age or nationality. Fortunately for me, I'm not hung up on such affectations. I have never done anything to harm anyone. Furthermore, I am from a very wealthy and powerful family here in Michigan. Me, my parents and my siblings employed hundreds...if not thousands..of people over the past 50 years. Most of them were members of minority groups. so, despite anything, by virtue of my participation in our family's businesses, I have done more for minorities than a pedantic dilettante like you ever will live to do. I once had a black co-worker tell me that he was less offended by a redneck calling him a "ni***r" than when a liberal called him "African American". He explained that the redneck was being honest, while the liberal was patronizing him. So, believe what you want. The fact is this: none of this matters. This is just internet nonsense that means nothing, affects nothing, hurts no one, and only serves to waste our time. That is all it is...a distraction. I hope you reconcile with your father before he dies.

FaithUSA wrote:

<quoted text>Well, that is an interesting question. I hadn't really thought of it. While I am in no way religious myself, I do identify myself as a "Christian" when it comes to taking sides against muslims.....and, of course, I despise muslims because of their barbarity and savage acts of terrorism throughout the world...and particularly the 9/11 attack.

I didn't address a question to you in that post, moron.

Oh, so you lied when you said you are an atheist. As I recalled.

Do you despise all Christians because Timothy McVeigh blew up a government building?

Everyone might have some bias or other. That's not the same as your open, rabid, irrational racism, you fool.

Mitt s Airtight Dog Crate wrote:

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I didn't address a question to you in that post, moron.
Oh, so you lied when you said you are an atheist. As I recalled.
Do you despise all Christians because Timothy McVeigh blew up a government building?
Everyone might have some bias or other. That's not the same as your open, rabid, irrational racism, you fool.

Timothy McVeigh was an aberration for muslims...terrorism is mainstream. Yes, I am an atheist...and you are a queer..muslims would just as soon hang you as say hello to you, I merely find you annoying...not because of your queerness...but because you are a narcissistic, overly dramatic, self important little bi**h. The awful truth that you need to face is that no one cares about your outrage...no one. Christians don't care, I don't care.....take a trip to Saudi or Pakistan....they will care..I assure you.

The question was whether I was "xenophobic" or "racist". It was rhetorical....you flaming sissy.

Here are your friends...your brothers in the altruistic struggle against America and "xstains"...join them now!

http://religion.wikia.com/wiki/Islam_and_Homo...

FaithUSA wrote:

The question was whether I was "xenophobic" or "racist". It was rhetorical....you flaming sissy.

Hey moron, no, most Muslims are not violent terrorists. Just like most Christians are not. See, that's your bigotry again.

You're racist, "proudly" racist. We've established that. You are only xenophobic regarding non Western countries. You're racist.

Now, despite your lies that your not homophobic - and again I've read your homophobic posts on topix - you are using homophobic epithets.

Perhaps you're too drunk to keep track of which bigotries you're trying to hide at the moment.

Mitt s Airtight Dog Crate wrote:

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Hey moron, no, most Muslims are not violent terrorists. Just like most Christians are not. See, that's your bigotry again.
You're racist, "proudly" racist. We've established that. You are only xenophobic regarding non Western countries. You're racist.
Now, despite your lies that your not homophobic - and again I've read your homophobic posts on topix - you are using homophobic epithets.
Perhaps you're too drunk to keep track of which bigotries you're trying to hide at the moment.

Yeah, but you don't here about Methodist terrorists blowing themselves up in crowded markets or flying planes into buildings very often...freak. LOL! Don't try and make your pro-muslim bullsh*t a homo-rights thing. Islam is antithetical to all notions of human decency. That is a stand alone issue from your proclivity foe sodomy.

Mitt s Airtight Dog Crate wrote:

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Hey moron, no, most Muslims are not violent terrorists. Just like most Christians are not. See, that's your bigotry again.
You're racist, "proudly" racist. We've established that. You are only xenophobic regarding non Western countries. You're racist.
Now, despite your lies that your not homophobic - and again I've read your homophobic posts on topix - you are using homophobic epithets.
Perhaps you're too drunk to keep track of which bigotries you're trying to hide at the moment.

I don't drink and I have never attempted to hide any "bigotries".....so your little expose' is a bit less-than-dramatic. Sorry sissy.

Mitt s Airtight Dog Crate wrote:

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Hey moron, no, most Muslims are not violent terrorists. Just like most Christians are not.

Yeah, but you hate Christians...sorry, I meant "xstains" because...uh...they don't approve of your deviant lifestyle. I don't like muslims because an inordinate percentage of them would kill me (or you) simply because we are non-muslim (at least I am) or because we are American. Again. I don't have the complex forest of insecurities to sift through like you sexually confused individuals. Quit placing yourself at the center of the universe.

FaithUSA wrote:

<quoted text>I don't drink and I have never attempted to hide any "bigotries".....so your little expose' is a bit less-than-dramatic. Sorry sissy.

Hey freeek, you have so far denied your obvious racism - claiming it was xenophobia - and you have denied your obvious homophobia. Now if you're not drunk then you must have a brain disorder of some sort.

Of course you're nothing but a serial liar.

FaithUSA wrote:

<quoted text>Yeah, but you hate Christians...sorry, I meant "xstains" because...uh...they don't approve of your deviant lifestyle.

No, at this point most Americans - a Christian majority nation - have no trouble with the notion of homosexuality. Marriage equality is a bit tougher, but it's still better than 50 50 in favor.

The homophobia is in the xstain talibangelical subset, exactly as I said.

By the way, it's a "lifestyle" as much as heterosexuality is a "lifestyle." Okay, homophobe who lies about being a rank homophobe?

Lots of Christians have committed lots of violent acts. You just don't catalog due to your blinders, and the media certainly doesn't smear all Christians on the basis of these acts by Christians.

Moron, try to recall with your dim mind the fellow who flew his small airplane into the Austin IRS building.(Hint: Not Muslim.) So again I have provided a well know example showing your irrational bigotry.

Mitt s Airtight Dog Crate wrote:

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Hey freeek, you have so far denied your obvious racism - claiming it was xenophobia - and you have denied your obvious homophobia. Now if you're not drunk then you must have a brain disorder of some sort.
Of course you're nothing but a serial liar.

You just keep making things up and repeating the same lies. To summarize....I am an atheist. I don't care who you sleep with or who's pole you smoke. That vulgar and disturbing detail is your private business....no one cares. Nobody is trying to kill you or deny you your right to engage in sodomy with another consenting adult....really. My disdain for muslims and non-Westerners is a wholly separate issue from your mental problems in general and this dramatic emotional episode in particular. Again.....YOU ARE NOT THAT IMPORTANT.