Measure A mailer includes Costco name without permission

Ok Cliff Paulin, let's talk about misleading mailers and flyers.

I was visiting a business on the Mendocino coast the other day, when I saw a flyer with a disturbing image. It showed a picture of what appeared to be the Point Cabrillo Lighthouse with an ominous oil platform in the background. I rightly assumed that the flyer was a statement in opposition of offshore drilling. The header above the frightening image read, "Measure A attacks local control."

Huh? I thought Measure A was about rezoning the Masonite site in Ukiah for retail development and not about offshore drilling.

I read on into the flyer, "If the multi-national corporate sponsor of this fall's Measure A is successful in the Ukiah Valley, then oil and energy companies will be emboldened to try using their big money for initiatives giving them special privileges affecting our Mendocino coast. Right now oil companies are trying to pass a drilling initiative in Santa Barbara. Recognizing the serious threat to the Mendocino Coast and community planning; the Fort Bragg, Point Arena & Ukiah City Councils have all unanimously passed resolutions strongly opposing Measure A." The flyer was of course put out by SOLE.

Oh my God! According to Cliff Paulin and SOLE, oil platforms are going to spring up along the Mendocino Coast if I vote yes on Measure A.

I know the SOLE crowd is disconnected from reality but come on. Leading voters to believe that Measure A is in any way connected with offshore drilling is nauseating.

SOLE, your misleading flyer just cemented my decision to vote Yes on A.

Does Cliff have any "real" cases to work on?
Or does he simply have too much time on his hands?
Sounds like a whiney tattle tale to me....
"Teacher! Johnny used the blue crayon without asking."
Dropped my Yes vote in the mail yesterday.

Mr. Paulin is also on the Ukiah Valley Sanitation District board. He is proposing a change in policy to limit the amount of sewer hookups for any one development... trying to put a stop to any development if Measure A passes.

This is probably the only reason Paulin ran for that board.

Just shows that you really have to know a person's political agenda before voting for them. Ya never know.

hey, thanks for posting the text from our flyer! other readers -- the ones who can actually read? the ones who aren't being paid by DDR to post here?-- may get the point that local control by local elected officials -- or bypassing such local control -- IS the bottomline issue here and in Santa Barbara, too, not the specifics of whatever it is that the Big Money out-of-state corporations want to do. If in doubt, always vote "no" on any ballot initiative by default, that's the wisest choice, unless it's an issue you know and care a lot about personally. p.s.: I drove by another Costco this week, down in the funky part of Eureka; why does anyone believe Costco is eager to place itself in (and to help pay for) an expensive, brand-new mall, the kind of place depicted in DDR's flyers?(you know, the kind of "mall" where people apparently prefer painting paintings in the parking lot than actually parking their cars there?) That's not the kind of place where you find the Costco in any other town.

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hey, thanks for posting the text from our flyer! other readers -- the ones who can actually read? the ones who aren't being paid by DDR to post here?-- may get the point that local control by local elected officials -- or bypassing such local control -- IS the bottomline issue here and in Santa Barbara, too, not the specifics of whatever it is that the Big Money out-of-state corporations want to do. If in doubt, always vote "no" on any ballot initiative by default, that's the wisest choice, unless it's an issue you know and care a lot about personally. p.s.: I drove by another Costco this week, down in the funky part of Eureka; why does anyone believe Costco is eager to place itself in (and to help pay for) an expensive, brand-new mall, the kind of place depicted in DDR's flyers?(you know, the kind of "mall" where people apparently prefer painting paintings in the parking lot than actually parking their cars there?) That's not the kind of place where you find the Costco in any other town.

Dickie, you're full of it...

If you have notice. SOLE has a new Blog campaign. Talk about DDR paying folks to blog. Again, you guys (SOLE)are full of it.

Wow the urinal can actually report on something. One would think that this was an actual paper. Maybe I am getting carried away here......lol

I'm voting yes on A. I get tired of having to drive to SR to shop at Costco. Since I'm there already I eat lunch, shop at other stores, take the family our for a nice dinner and then return to Ukiah. It becomes and all day event when I could just drive down the road to the proposed retail site and do my shopping, still having plenty of time in the day to do other things. Not to mention I just saved all those emissions, gas and my tax dollars stayed here.

Those against A claim that special interests are at work to ruin our "great little town". Those same people are only interested in their own special interests. Nothing like the pot calling the kettle black.

Vote Yes wrote:

I'm voting yes on A. I get tired of having to drive to SR to shop at Costco. Since I'm there already I eat lunch, shop at other stores, take the family our for a nice dinner and then return to Ukiah. It becomes and all day event when I could just drive down the road to the proposed retail site and do my shopping, still having plenty of time in the day to do other things. Not to mention I just saved all those emissions, gas and my tax dollars stayed here.
Those against A claim that special interests are at work to ruin our "great little town". Those same people are only interested in their own special interests. Nothing like the pot calling the kettle black.

I shop at Costco and Trader Joe's in Santa Rosa about once a month and think it would be great to have them in Ukiah. Voting yes on A isn't going to bring those stores here any faster than 10 years from now. I'm voting no on Measure A. I think it's best for the county that DDR should go through the regular process for zoning change and have to comply with CEQA before anything is built on the old Masonite property.

I am voting NO on A because I don't want another shopping center in Ukiah.

The LIBERALS keep on crying.... Preserve Preserve Preserve what the hell do you want us to do ride around in Horse and Buggie. It creates jobs and capital for a community that's already in debt. Ukiah Daily Urinal maybe one day you will decide to publish facts instead of shit....

The names of several stores were posted on the fliers however, the flier made it clear the stores have only expressed interest and the plans were subject to change. Having stores like that would be great for local business as well because of the large number of consumers it would bring to the area. Other than green thumbs, I don't know how there is any opposition to a measure that is trying to keep our local economy alive in hard times.

mountaingal wrote:

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I shop at Costco and Trader Joe's in Santa Rosa about once a month and think it would be great to have them in Ukiah. Voting yes on A isn't going to bring those stores here any faster than 10 years from now. I'm voting no on Measure A. I think it's best for the county that DDR should go through the regular process for zoning change and have to comply with CEQA before anything is built on the old Masonite property.

How much is SOLE paying you?

No on Narcoeconomics wrote:

The names of several stores were posted on the fliers however, the flier made it clear the stores have only expressed interest and the plans were subject to change. Having stores like that would be great for local business as well because of the large number of consumers it would bring to the area. Other than green thumbs, I don't know how there is any opposition to a measure that is trying to keep our local economy alive in hard times.

DDR says it isn't going to be building anything on the property for a least ten years so please tell me how voting yes on A is going to help our local economy stay alive?

mountaingal wrote:

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DDR says it isn't going to be building anything on the property for a least ten years so please tell me how voting yes on A is going to help our local economy stay alive?

No, he didn't:-/

mountaingal wrote:

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DDR says it isn't going to be building anything on the property for a least ten years so please tell me how voting yes on A is going to help our local economy stay alive?

Mountaingal, I believe that you are incorrect on the 10 year time frame. Please provide the name of the DDR representative that made this statement, along with the date and location where the statement was allegedly made. Thanks in advance.

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Mountaingal, I believe that you are incorrect on the 10 year time frame. Please provide the name of the DDR representative that made this statement, along with the date and location where the statement was allegedly made. Thanks in advance.

Jeff Adams
meeting at the Hampton Inn, Ukiah
March, 2008

"This project will change a million times" before it is complete, which, he said, could take as long as ten years to bring off."

Mountiangal,thank you for the prompt response.

anybody who thinks Costco is waiting for some fancy new and expensive mall to be built to come to the Ukiah Valley is a fool. When Costco's figures pencil out (I wonder if they're including the illegal pot money in their calculations re: potential profit, or just the on-the-books income figures for the area?), they will come, and it won't be until then, and at that point they certainly won't be locating in an expensive new mall, that's not Costco's style. True, we've got some foolish voters even here in Mendocino County where voters are smarter than in many places. Way too many of you -- on the right and the left -- were fooled by Schwarzenegger's propaganda, weren't you?

The word mall is ridiculous. The Measure creates a mixed-use zoning change. DDR is building a shopping center not a mall.
And Costco, Petco, Target, Etc already know that Mendocino County residents spend a lot of money in their stores. They have it down to the penny they ask you your zip code when you shop. They wouldn't have an interest at all if they didn't think they were going to make money. For example Trader Joe's keeps getting thrown out there by people, they're not coming. They have said there isn't a market. If those other stores gave DDR a letter of intent then they are interested. Its that simple.
There are a lot of infrastructure improvements that need to be made before the retail center can be built. So yes that will take time. It may be 3 years before Costco opens. At the debate Jeff Adams said likely 2012 if the measure passes. Meanwhile we will have people being hired for construction jobs to help build the infrastructure. But if you're a SOLE'r you probably could care less because you have a family inheritance of rentals to sit back and "manage".