Gay marriage supporters take fight to courts

voteearlyvoteoften wrote:

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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Try reading it yourself, everything you have claimed is in there is in fact not!

Wow.......Your dumb as a rock........CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING RELIGION..........GOT IT NOW MORON..........CONGRESS CANT MAKE LAWS THAT AFFECT A RELIGION OR FOR A RELIGION..........Try to keep up.....

llDayo wrote:

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Perhaps one of the other 20+ polls linked to on Wikipedia would help? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_o...
Do you have links to some of those "dozens" of polls? Make sure they're recent and not "slanted" like the first one I posted.

What does wikipedia say about the 38 states currenly not issuing ss marriage licenses??????

Blues Dot Com wrote:

Homosexuals are losing their battle.

you must have just woke up from your noon naptime. LOL

Get That Fool wrote:

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I've never understood what god people have in their lives that don't involve the Bible, but that is just me....

But that's just it......why follow a mythical book? It's only what you want it to be and nothing more.....hell, people like you only enjoy using it to condemn folks you don't like or agree with!!!

NEW wrote:

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Wow.......Your dumb as a rock........CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING RELIGION..........GOT IT NOW MORON..........CONGRESS CANT MAKE LAWS THAT AFFECT A RELIGION OR FOR A RELIGION..........Try to keep up.....

The point is if you are going to quote the 1st Amendment, you should actually quote what's in the Amendment.

If you want to discuss interpretations of it, then terms like "separate but equal" and "meddling" are fine.

"Your dumb as a rock" - now that is priceless!

llDayo wrote:

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Where has there been a case of activists trying to force churches to perform same sex marriages? AFAIK, this would violate the First Amendment and I personally would not support it.

Maybe not the best example but is is a taste of what to expect:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_Grove,_New...

NEW wrote:

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Wow.......Your dumb as a rock........CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING RELIGION..........GOT IT NOW MORON..........CONGRESS CANT MAKE LAWS THAT AFFECT A RELIGION OR FOR A RELIGION..........Try to keep up.....

Not quite right...

Congress shall make no law respecting 'an establishment' of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

It's really time for you to take a class on the constitution. You have no idea what it says and certainly what it stands for.....

Imprtnrd wrote:

<quoted text>you must have just woke up from your noon naptime. LOL

...you are dreeeeeeeeeeeeaming......waaaa aaaaaaaake uuuuuuuuuuuup...

Get That Fool wrote:

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What does wikipedia say about the 38 states currenly not issuing ss marriage licenses??????

You mean the same states where nearly all voted to disallow ss marriage between 2004-2006? This is why I've been using the word "recent" regarding these polls. In 10 years public opinion has gone from a large majority against to a small majority for. It's really only a matter of time until the US joins other industrialized nations in the 21st century and leaves the dark ages behind.

RnL2008 wrote:

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But that's just it......why follow a mythical book? It's only what you want it to be and nothing more.....hell, people like you only enjoy using it to condemn folks you don't like or agree with!!!

Well, I don't consider the Bible myth at all, but to say you just do what you want sounds more like 'myth' to me.....

llDayo wrote:

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You mean the same states where nearly all voted to disallow ss marriage between 2004-2006? This is why I've been using the word "recent" regarding these polls. In 10 years public opinion has gone from a large majority against to a small majority for. It's really only a matter of time until the US joins other industrialized nations in the 21st century and leaves the dark ages behind.

Well, let me tell you that 'recently' 32 states now have amendments defining marriage is between one man and one woman....

Get That Fool wrote:

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Not quite right...
Congress shall make no law respecting 'an establishment' of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
It's really time for you to take a class on the constitution. You have no idea what it says and certainly what it stands for.....

I know what it says and understand it perfect..........It is you that doesnt get the government cnat make laws to force any religion onto we the people.....GOT IT?????

Get That Fool wrote:

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Well, let me tell you that 'recently' 32 states now have amendments defining marriage is between one man and one woman....

Within the next 10 years that will have changed, especially since other states are already allowing same sex marriage. Most likely a SCOTUS ruling will render those state amendments null and void.

voteearlyvoteoften wrote:

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Maybe not the best example but is is a taste of what to expect:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_Grove,_New...

This isn't quite the same thing since, by reading the wiki page, the Boardwalk Pavilion has received public funds for repairs and allows other performances outside of religious activities to perform there. This would normally qualify it as a public place and therefore has to follow laws regarding discrimination. It would be more similar to a concert hall than a church building.

NEW wrote:

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I know what it says and understand it perfect..........It is you that doesnt get the government cnat make laws to force any religion onto we the people.....GOT IT?????

...and they aren't. What religion are they forcing on people????

llDayo wrote:

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Within the next 10 years that will have changed, especially since other states are already allowing same sex marriage. Most likely a SCOTUS ruling will render those state amendments null and void.

...and you can see the future now???? What's Saturday's powerball numbers?????

Get That Fool wrote:

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...and they aren't. What religion are they forcing on people????

You use your religion to keep gays from being abel to marry....You have said laws should be made based on your religion....THAT IS FORCEING MORON.........

llDayo wrote:

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This isn't quite the same thing since, by reading the wiki page, the Boardwalk Pavilion has received public funds for repairs and allows other performances outside of religious activities to perform there. This would normally qualify it as a public place and therefore has to follow laws regarding discrimination. It would be more similar to a concert hall than a church building.

Well, I did say it wasn't perfect, but it describes the plan - go after a non-compliant church's tax exempt status. Many churches sit on valuable and untaxed land and rent their facilities to church non-members..........

Get That Fool wrote:

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...and you can see the future now???? What's Saturday's powerball numbers?????

No psychic powers are required for simple logic. Other countries have been accepting ssm for some time now and have been fine. The public perception of ssm has been getting more favorable over the past decade and since this has become an issue of civil rights it will inevitably lead to a court ruling when a couple that was married in one state wants to be recognized in another that does not allow it. Drawing a conclusion from trends towards acceptance it seems almost comical not believe this won't happen within a decade.

NEW wrote:

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You use your religion to keep gays from being abel to marry....You have said laws should be made based on your religion....THAT IS FORCEING MORON.........

Which I can do....
I'm speaking/voting my conscience as my rights allow me to do. My beliefs are what shapes my conscience. But no one is required to believe as I do. That's the beauty of America....

As long as congress doesn't make any laws 'requiring' a certain religion be observed, no violations have taken place....