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carol

Windermere, FL

#711121 Aug 14, 2012
Jean wrote:
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Why would anyone other than a moron expect a party that has always opposed Medicare to save it? If you were educated and honest you would say...yes republicans oppose it and ALWAYS have as socialism. We're all on our own. But you unethical liars try to sell the lies to the unsuspecting. A voucher will NEVER cover all the expenses of even a relatively healthy elderly person. If these people don't have their own extensive resources and people to help them get proper coverage to cover the difference they will DIE and or go broke.
THere will be NOTHING left in most estates for future heirs because family fortunes will be wiped out by even one serious illness.
Do any of you righties actually think for yourselves?
This is likely way over your head.
Because, as usual, the conservatives always have to clean up and manage the mess liberals make. The conservatives managed to clean up welfare under Clinton. The Democrats just came back and messed it up again.

Medicare is another mess but it's not going anywhere now. The only thing left is to try and preserve it and keep it from bankrupting the nation.
fred

Amsterdam, NY

#711122 Aug 14, 2012
yepperz wrote:
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You can try and rewrite history in your Topix world. In the real world, where it counts, you are a joke......
He was the Commander in Chief, and his command was hunt him down and kill him. No one said he personally shot Bin Laden.
Did Bush personally pluck Saddam Hussein out of his hole and drag him through the warzone by his beard?
No he gave the command. And got credit for that.
If youíre going to say Obama doesnít deserve credit for getting Bin Laden, then youíre also saying Bush didnít deserve credit for getting Hussein. And Reagan didnít deserve credit for bringing down the Berlin Wall. And Truman didnít deserve credit for defeating Hitler. And Lincoln didnít deserve credit for the surrender of Robert E. Lee. When in fact all of those Presidents deserve the credit for all of those accomplishments.
None of these President's personally did any of those things, yet they got the credit for them in history as being Commander in Chief when they occurred. Obama, historically will get it too. Regardless of what Republicans think about it.
Fortunately you and other fanatics like yourself have no say when it comes to the recording actual history.
Keep eating those sour grapes.
Osama dead? So what? Who cares?

What has changed? duh
Jean

Rhinecliff, NY

#711123 Aug 14, 2012
Peppy wrote:
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Stupid argument as usual. When the government forces participation in social securty and medicare, the choice is removed as an option. That said, I am not opposed to medicare, never have been. Why are you distorting my views and casting lies? Oh,you are a liberal democrat, that's right, never mind.
I don't have to lie about it. It's a FAct.
If you vote republican you oppose Medicare.An entitlement.Socialism, Marxism ., welfare you call it out of one side of your rightwing mouthes as you declare you're saving it out the other side. You cannot be a republican and realistically and honestly support medicare.
The reason we have Medicare is because there was NO choice! There is less choice today. Without government intervention there is NO CHOICE for the elderly, sick and poor. In fact anyone with even a simple preexisting condition. Don't ever try to sell that crap to anyone with a brain. You try to buy into private insurance if you're even in your 50's. Forget it. Unless your employer gives coverage. Forget it.
Jean

Rhinecliff, NY

#711124 Aug 14, 2012
fred wrote:
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Osama dead? So what? Who cares?
What has changed? duh
Then tell that to the thousands of dead and wounded US troops Bush sent to find him you ass and to those of us paying the economic price for it with our own sacrifices here.
carol

Windermere, FL

#711125 Aug 14, 2012
Jean wrote:
TARP, two Bush wars, 3 trillion in tax cuts, prescription drug benefit ..all budget busting..that's what your fiscal conservative Ryan did. Now he wants the poor, sick and elderly to pay the bill.
Did you know Democrats carried the vote for TARP?

An almost unanimous vote by both Democrats and Republicans supported the war.

The tax cuts weren't what caused the economy to bottom out. The Democrats defending Fannie and Freddie to the death probably had something to do with it.

Did you know big pharmaceutical companies lobbied to get Obamacare passed?

Now what were you saying about Ryan trying to save Medicare for the poor and elderly - not to mention the future?
Florida

Lithia, FL

#711126 Aug 14, 2012
fred wrote:
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Osama dead? So what? Who cares?
What has changed? duh
A forgotten truth.. Obama owns the war in Afghanistan and more troops dying everyday, now over 2000 died and has never closed Gitmo...
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It's the culture...

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#711127 Aug 14, 2012
Conservative girl wrote:
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Obama stole from the Medicare program 700 billion dollars to start up Obama Care.
Sorry but that rubbish won't sell. The F A C T S are entirely different.
Jean

Rhinecliff, NY

#711128 Aug 14, 2012
carol wrote:
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Because, as usual, the conservatives always have to clean up and manage the mess liberals make. The conservatives managed to clean up welfare under Clinton. The Democrats just came back and messed it up again.
Medicare is another mess but it's not going anywhere now. The only thing left is to try and preserve it and keep it from bankrupting the nation.
The ones who made the mess are gonna fix it. Get lost.....

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#711129 Aug 14, 2012
yepperz wrote:
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No he gave the command. And got credit for that.
If youíre going to say Obama doesnít deserve credit for getting Bin Laden, then youíre also saying Bush didnít deserve credit for getting Hussein. And Reagan didnít deserve credit for bringing down the Berlin Wall. And Truman didnít deserve credit for defeating Hitler. And Lincoln didnít deserve credit for the surrender of Robert E. Lee. When in fact all of those Presidents deserve the credit for all of those accomplishments.
None of these President's personally did any of those things, yet they got the credit for them in history as being Commander in Chief when they occurred. Obama, historically will get it too. Regardless of what Republicans think about it.
That is a very responsible post.

Now about the economy?
Who gets credit and who gets blame?
Florida

Lithia, FL

#711130 Aug 14, 2012
Jean wrote:
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I don't have to lie about it. It's a FAct.
If you vote republican you oppose Medicare.An entitlement.Socialism, Marxism ., welfare you call it out of one side of your rightwing mouthes as you declare you're saving it out the other side. You cannot be a republican and realistically and honestly support medicare.
The reason we have Medicare is because there was NO choice! There is less choice today. Without government intervention there is NO CHOICE for the elderly, sick and poor. In fact anyone with even a simple preexisting condition. Don't ever try to sell that crap to anyone with a brain. You try to buy into private insurance if you're even in your 50's. Forget it. Unless your employer gives coverage. Forget it.
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be comrade jean....
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Your brain has been washed one, two many times over the years, never showing up for work ...
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Maybe it's your old age Jean of Queen's or the bleach that has absorbed into your head or tattoo ink leaching into your brain Jean, that's making your common sense fade... you idiot...
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And.. Your Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.. Jean forever enslaved to her own ignorance and bad choices, trying to cheat life, made living her failed and selfish lifestyle...
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It's the culture...

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#711131 Aug 14, 2012
Jean wrote:
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Then tell that to the thousands of dead and wounded US troops Bush sent to find him you ass and to those of us paying the economic price for it with our own sacrifices here.
Thank you for your honesty, a commodity sadly very short.
It appears the other party is unable to recognize the crimes of their hero, Bush, and hope to lay all of his sins at the feet of our current president. They fool themselves but no one else.

Since: Feb 10

ny ny

#711132 Aug 14, 2012
carol wrote:
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Did you read that yepperz?
"I have to tell you that the real commander was Admiral McRaven,Ē Panetta told PBS Tuesday night.ďHe was on site, and he was actually in charge of the military operation that went in and got bin Laden.Ē
Obama probably wanted to court martial him too.
From same interview......

Chief Panetta: Obama Made 'Gutsy' Decision on Bin Laden Raid Panetta told PBS Tuesday night.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/terrorism/jan-...

Look up the word decision.
Florida

Lithia, FL

#711133 Aug 14, 2012
Dallas39 wrote:
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Sorry but that rubbish won't sell. The F A C T S are entirely different.
Next time anyone thinks of cultural malware, don't forget to count the democrats all in....
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Obama Campaign Says Slashing Medicare An 'Obama Achievement'
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http://www.onenewspage.com/n/US/74rdtbud7/Oba...
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It's a sellout Obama who's on record, dismantling Social Security, pilfering and bankrupting Medicare...
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It's the culture...
Jean

Rhinecliff, NY

#711134 Aug 14, 2012
EasyEed wrote:
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"jean"
You have a big mouth. You say nothing. No that is wrong you display your hypocrisy and bigotry with your every post. Now put up or shut up, your BS is getting old. Post the bill where republicans voted to kill medicare/social security. They currently have a huge majority in the house they could pass such a bill if that were their wish. The republicans had majorities for much of Clinton's regime, post the bill(s) they offered to kill the programs you lie about.
"jean" I do have some questions for you;
- Do you ever post with out lying?
- Do you have a brain?
- Do you bow and pray to your hero/God, president nobama when you drag your ass out of bed in the morning?
- Do love the 6 trillion in new debt that president nobama has developed?
- Do you love the fact the under nobama the number of folks on food stamps has grown by 6 million?
- Do you love the fact that millions fewer Americans are paying Federal Income tax?
- Do you love the fact that GDP growth is anemic, less than the inflation rate?
"jean" you should change your screen names. A couple of suggestions;
- "jean the liar"
- "jean the BSer"
- "jean the paid troll.
Peace
KMA
So you were kidding about all the socialism , Marxism, communism stuff when referring to "entitlements"? It was a joke at your rightwing dinner for schmucks?
You guys loved them all along even though your party voted against all of them. You're such kidders! Or friggin liars..Go to sleep dummy/
Florida

Lithia, FL

#711135 Aug 14, 2012
Jean wrote:
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The ones who made the mess are gonna fix it. Get lost.....
Next time anyone thinks of cultural malware, don't forget to count the democrats all in....
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Obama Campaign Says Slashing Medicare An 'Obama Achievement'
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http://www.onenewspage.com/n/US/74rdtbud7/Oba...
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It's a sellout Obama who's on record, dismantling Social Security, pilfering and bankrupting Medicare...
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Obama pilfered 700 billion out of Medicare and put it in ObamaKare
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Obama Agreed To Even More Medicare Cuts In The Debt Ceiling Deal.
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Obama Said "Adjustments" Must Be Made To Medicare.
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During The Debt Ceiling Negotiations, Obama Offered $650 Billion In Cuts To Entitlement Programs Like Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.
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Obama Put "Major Changes" To Medicare On The Table During Debt Ceiling Negotiations.
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Obama Said He Was Willing "To Sign A Tough Package" That Included Cuts To Medicare, Medicaid, And Social Security.
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Obama Said He Was Open To Increasing The Age Of Eligibility For Medicare.
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Obama Offered To Increase Medicare Eligibility Of Age, Adjust Premiums For Services Covered By Part B And D, Reform Deductibles, And Limit Certain Supplemental Insurance Coverage.
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Obama Said He Was Open To Means Testing Medicare
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Obama Admitted That The Democrats' Do-Nothing Plan On Medicare Will Result In Medicare's Bankruptcy.
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White House Senior Advisor David Plouffe Said Cuts In Medicare Are Necessary.
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Obama was the one to place cuts to SS and Medicare on the debt ceiling negotiations table as part of his "Grand Bargain" to reduce the deficit.
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Plus, Obama has supported the efforts of deficit hawkish groups whom have supported deep cuts in the "entitlement" programs in the past...including Pete Peterson's group and the Bowles-Simpson "bipartisan" commission (the original "Catfood Commission").
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It's very questionable Obama's sellout loyalty and NO leadership NOT standing firm against "entitlement" cuts in the future. Obama has been dismantling and pilfering the working man's mandated government savings plan called Social Security and Medicare.
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What kinda of senseless, idiot liberal would even try and deny a sellout obama has not pilfered and has not gutted Medicare in favor of obamakare?
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Appearing on Face the Nation August 12th, Obama Deputy Campaign Manager Stephanie Cutter called the $700 billion gutted and pilfered from Medicare an "Achievement" made by President Obama through obamaKare.
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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/201...
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The Plantation Sellout and Trojan Horse Poison of Unconscious Liberalism...
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It's the culture...
carol

Windermere, FL

#711136 Aug 14, 2012
Jean wrote:
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Remember I am not a greedy, selfish republican. I care about others less fortunate around me and future generations. I believe that one of the most unethical cruel acts would be to knowingly and as an overt policy allow sick people to go without medical care. It's called morality.
You care about nothing of the sort. You could care less if this nation goes belly up under this massive debt and nearly half the country on government checks.

How is that going to help anyone, Jean? How is that going to help the poor? Who's going to have any money left to help them?

You are a poor misguided liberal who will be the first one to scratch your head and say "wha' happened?" still believing the government can save us.
Peppy

Greensboro, NC

#711137 Aug 14, 2012
And so it goes wrote:
Senile,old man dispatched by Obama announces that we(Obama campaign) can win North Carolina again today.... he was in Virginia.
It truly is laughable the left is criticizing Ryan while remaining silent on Biden's buffoonery. Their best strategy would be to simply say the vice president is irrelevant as that pretty much sums up Biden.
And so it goes

Gering, NE

#711138 Aug 14, 2012
Florida wrote:
Coal Mines Succumb To Obama's War On Coal:
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http://news.investors.com/article/620622/2012...
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It's the culture...
Good link.

"PJM Interconnection, the company that operates the electric grid for 13 states, including Ohio, recently held its 2015 capacity auction. This gave the first real indication of just how drastic the effects of Obama's war on coal will be. The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity was $136 per megawatt.

That's eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16 per megawatt. In Pennsylvania, the new market price is $167 per megawatt ó 10 times higher. In northern Ohio, which is suffering from more forced coal-plant retirements than the rest of the region, the 2015 price is an astounding $357 per megawatt."

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Peppy

Greensboro, NC

#711139 Aug 14, 2012
Jean wrote:
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The ones who made the mess are gonna fix it. Get lost.....
Carol plans for Obama to lose, therefore he will not get a chance to fix the mess he created over the last four years.

Hello Carol, hope you are well.

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carol

Windermere, FL

#711140 Aug 14, 2012
Peppy wrote:
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Unlike Obama, both Romney and Ryan have records that support their willingness and ability to reach compromise.
And there you have it. The willingness to compromise.

Obama's "if they bring a knife, we'll bring a gun" mentality has to go.

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