BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Terri Tanna wrote:
What possible adverse effect does "Obamacare" have on "job creation?"
LRS wrote:
Oh, about 21 new taxes.
Is it your contention those taxes will offset the multiplier effect on employment of the Affordable Care Act?
Do you claim the reason net unemployment was higher in Reagan's third year than in Obama's third year is because Reagan's marginal tax rate on middle income families was THREE TIMES AS HIGH as it is now under Obama?
Please do not answer in generalities. Instead be an adult and use hard and verifiable economic data from authentic sources. Thank you.
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Insanity - tuna fish.....coming back for more "clobbering"....over and over and over and......

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Just Sayin wrote:
Were you back from vacation when it was brought to our attention that Obama has been using a stolen Social Security number since 1977?
Can you tell the Class at what location and place that social security CARD was President Obama stole it by taking it and, presumably, putting it in his pocket?
Why was the owner of that social security card more careful about where s/he put it?

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Terri Tanna wrote:
"Tell the Class specifically with what components of his economic policy you disagree, and the names of any economists who support your point of view. Thank you."
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LRS wrote:
All the RED ink.
Have you always been an intellectual midget? Deficits -- assuming that is what you mean by "RED ink" -- are the RESULTS not the components of economic policy. Are you smart enough to name generically the principal components of macroeconomic policy?
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Here is a challenge: The Class doesn't think you have the economic smarts to make a case against incurring a deficit in the circumstances the United States finds itself in 2012. Frankly, the Class doesn't think you have the economic smarts to make the case FOR surpluses. YOUR TURN -- GO!

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YES -- I am saying you are ABSOLUTELY WRONG.
Not even close. Have you ever had dinner with him at his residence?
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The residence of the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Chicago has for decades been located on the west side of Astor in the 1500 block.
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Siouxweety wrote:
Are you ready to eat your lies, again?!
http://www.archchicago.org/about_us/archbisho...
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His house was located right at Lasalle and North Avenue!
You are calling me a liar?
YES -- as your own site shows the address is 1555 North State Parkway. One cannot even see La Salle and North from the roof of the Cardinal's residence.
Maybe they moved his residence from LA SALLE AND NORTH all the way to STATE PARKWAY between the time you were there and now.(To be very clear the residence is bounded by State Parkway on the west and Astor (as I stated) on the east. What that has to do with LA SALLE STREET is beyond comprehension.

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The national debt is now more than 100% GDP. Now, TT would have you believe this is a good economic plan (asinine). What it really is, is being OWNED. If China were to demand repayment, we couldn't do it. From there it would snowball and others would demand their money as well.
Once again the child who can't even complete an associate's degree exposes his ignorance of international monetary theory.
PLEASE explain how China can demand repayment when ONLY the United States can call the bonds. China's only recourse is to sell them on the open market to some other sucker such as yourself or rube ("mr. goldbug sucker").
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OBAMA’S BIGGEST FINANCIAL SCAM

In order to give hard-working American families less expensive clothes and other non-food items, Wal-Mart buys consumer goods from China at very, very low prices, and pays for the purchases with good ol’ American dollars – the preferred currency among international traders around the world. Because of the very low prices, American consumers are BETTER OFF than before (with respect to the purchase of these goods).

Thus, China has excess U.S. dollars on hand and nothing to do with them.

So we make this deal with them: you give us back our dollars (in denominations of $TRILLIONS of dollars in return for little pieces of paper that say “IOU” for the same $Trillions of dollars with a balloon payment in thirty years and not one day before.

You might think China is too smart to fall for this SCAM but they do.

They simply ask that we pay them interest at the fixed rate of 2.54% per annum for thirty years. IF we do decide to pay the principal sum back in 2042, it will be with highly inflated dollars. Thus, OUR inflation will cause the loss of $billions of dollars to China.(Remember it’s a zero-sum game.) Pretty slick, huh?
This means that our new found cash cow (China) provides the United States with virtually unlimited borrowing power.
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Now you probably think BORROWING is BAD, but watch this:
By spending more money than the federal government takes in by taxation and other revenue sources (creating a deficit of, say,$1 TRILLION a year or more) to buy votes through entitlement programs that are paid for with the dollars borrowed from China (not the U.S. taxpayers), the administration is able to have its cake and eat it also by (honestly) telling the American public that taxpayer money is NOT being used to fund entitlement programs to buy votes – all the money to pay for vote buying (welfare, food stamps, public housing, etc.) is being borrowed from our political enemies in China.

And if we decide to stiff them? What are they going to do? Sue us? Ha Ha Ha – LAUGHS ON THEM.

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Conservative girl wrote:
<quoted text>Rubio was born in America. His parents were Cuban exiles who came to Florida in the 60s, applied for citizenship. They both are naturalized Americans as a result.
Rubio is a first generation natural born American,(parents were naturalized at the time of his birth), and his three children are 2nd generation natural born Americans eligible to be President or VP. That is how I interpet the Constitution regarding natural born citizen.
Wrong, as usual.

"On Sept. 9, 1975, Marco Rubio’s parents also petitioned for naturalization. Their petitions list the same date of admission to the United States as the petition of Rubio’s brother. It is unclear why Rubio’s parents waited 15 years to seek naturalization."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/marco-...

Marco Antonio Rubio (born May 28, 1971)
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Rooftop Missile Controversy in London 2012 Olympics
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Olympic Verdict Places British Residents Under Military Rule Indefinitely

It's official: an Englishman's home is no longer his castle.

In a move that is hardly witnessed in wartime, let alone in peacetime, the UK's military establishment has been given the green light to quarter residential homes without any permission or notice.

In the run-up to the 2012 Olympics in London, the UK's Ministry of Defence (MOD) has taken the unprecedented step of erecting surface-to-air missile batteries on top of multiple residential locations around East London.

A group of local council tenants from Leytonstone, East London, lost their high court battle to prevent the military missile encampment from being stationed on the roof of their tower block before and during the Olympics. The action to use their residential block as a military base was signed off by the British Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister, Home Secretary and Defence Secretary in 'Defence of the Realm'.

Residents were then also refused permission and blocked from applying for an appeal via judicial review because the case falls under the guise of national security.

The Defence Secretary, Philip Hammond, was accused by the residents of the block of Breaching Article 8 and Article 1 of Protocol 1 of the European convention on Human Rights. These protect an individual's right to a private life and peaceful enjoyment of their home.

At no point beforehand were any of the residents given consultation by the MOD. Moreover, the ruling against the residents has set a number of new legal precedents in favour of the military, including a 'zero notice' policy whereby the MOD has no obligation to inform or consult residents beforehand, nor do they have any legal obligation to offer any compensation if they choose to commandeer a private property to set-up a forward operating base.

David Enright, a human rights lawyer and Partner of Howe and Co. who represented the residents, explains the danger of this new ruling, "Let's be clear. Whenever the government (or military) takes a power over the civilian population -- they never give it back."

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LRS wrote:
If China were to demand repayment, we couldn't do it. From there it would snowball and others would demand their money as well.
The Class says I shouldn't be so hard on you not just because you have never studied Economics and, therefore, know absolutely nothing about it, but you obviously are not familiar with the indenture provisions of Treasury obligations generally and the long bond in particular. Your post makes you sound as an economic simpleton who has no practical experience in trading or owning gov't obligations. Tell the Class how many times you have slapped an Iron Butterfly on a Treasury spread or, better yet, explain to the Class how an Iron Butterfly is used by the locals on the floor of the CBOE.
Do you use Black-Scholes in valuing your European-style options?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black%E2%80%93Sc...
Can you derive tbe Black-Scholes algorithm from scratch as any graduate of the GSB at Chicago can do?

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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I think you got her right between her four-eyes.
rube didn't even read sweatysuzie's "citation" that PROVES her claim is wrong. HOW PATHETIC TO SPEND YOUR ENTIRE LIFE ON THE TAXPAYER-FUNDED GOV'T WELFARE ROLLS/
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YES -- I am saying you are ABSOLUTELY WRONG.
Not even close. Have you ever had dinner with him at his residence?
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YES -- as your own site shows the address is 1555 North State Parkway. One cannot even see La Salle and North from the roof of the Cardinal's residence.
Maybe they moved his residence from LA SALLE AND NORTH all the way to STATE PARKWAY between the time you were there and now.(To be very clear the residence is bounded by State Parkway on the west and Astor (as I stated) on the east.) What that has to do with LA SALLE STREET is beyond comprehension.

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Siouxweety wrote:
Are you ready to eat your lies, again?!
http://www.archchicago.org/about_us/archbisho...
The really uneducated one doesn't realize her very own citation does not support her falsehood. Ha Ha Ha Ha

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LRS wrote:
The national debt is now more than 100% GDP.
Your childish post (that I have largely deleted) is the classic example of really uneducated people thinking their "common sense" is correct. In fact, they are the very people who lack the analytical skills of their much-more educated betters.
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You prove yourself to be such a fool by this post.
You don't have to answer this aloud (for fear you will make an even greater fool of yourself):
How many first time home buyers purchase a home that has an FMV of LESS THAN their combined income.(Perhaps -- but only perhaps -- in Podunk where you live.) Certainly not in this great nation's metropolitan areas where the typical first home purchase may be two times (or more) than the family's income.
Of course, you are not knowledgeable enough to relate family income to GDP.
PLEASE finish your associate's degree, so that you can start to study Economics.

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That's what I expected. Called out for his lie Rouge Moron repastes his same tired crap
As if you have anything intelligent to say? It must be sad to be a little troll without any ovaries.

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Conservative girl wrote:
the intent of our Founders regarding Natural Born Citizen.
Please quote from the seven volume set of Geo. Washington's writings and correspondence (he was the presiding officer for the Philadelphia convention in 1787) on his intent. Please cite to the exact volume and page, so that the Class can verify it. Thank you.

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Terri Tanna wrote:
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rube didn't even read sweatysuzie's "citation" that PROVES her claim is wrong. HOW PATHETIC TO SPEND YOUR ENTIRE LIFE ON THE TAXPAYER-FUNDED GOV'T WELFARE ROLLS/
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Ah, how about your hero Colon Powell?
Oh, thank you for the retirement check.

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American Lady wrote:
Liberals defend the health care of teachers, unions, and illegal immigrants. But when it comes to the troops, they want to cut.
GOOD LORD!! No one wants to cut rube's taxpayer-funded VA health and other taxpayer-funded benefits. He's only been drawing on the taxpayer-funded welfare rolls since he was six years old. Don't want to put the old man in shook.

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American Lady wrote:
Liberals defend the health care of teachers, unions, and illegal immigrants. But when it comes to the troops, they want to cut.
Look up the meaning of strawman argumentation.

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OMG,
John Goodman weighs in on Chick-fil-A controversy—as Colonel Sanders (VIDEO)
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/john-goo...

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"But it was filtered through the errors of your uneducated brain. Kerchner v. Obama, 669 F. Supp. 2d 477 (D.N.J. 2009) aff'd, 612 F.3d 204 (3d Cir. 2010), cert. denied, 131 S. Ct. 663 (2010), upholding the President’s eligibility as a natural-born American citizen. RES JUDICATA."
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Old Goat wrote:
Cert, denied, does not prove anything, the case was not hear.
Gosh, you really expose your lack of education every time you post. Of course, the case was heard. Under the Court's internal rules it MUST take any case that raises the constitutional issues alleged by Imabozo. You know so little about jurisprudence that you don't know the difference between hearing a case and having oral argument.
In Kerchner everything that would have been said in oral argument (which is held solely for the benefit of the justices to clarify issues -- only uneducated fools think that oral argument is when the appellant and appellees make their case) had been extensively briefed for the District Court, the Third Circuit, and in the Petition for Cert. The appellant's case was so palpably weak and incoherent that there was no need for oral argument. By denying cert. the Court was in effect saying to Imabozo, "You and your case is a joke. We don't need to hear you make a further fool of yourself." The justices decided the case on the submissions and found the Third Circuit's opinion to be the correct application of the stipulated facts to Art. II,§ 1,¶ 5 of the [original] United States Constitution.
What don't you understand? The entire "birther" matter is now res judicata.

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Old Goat wrote:
Obama was born a Subject of the Crown and a citizen of Kenya, not subject to the US Constitution.
At the moment of his birth, his obligation was to his father's country, by bloodline. You can't get any better than that!
Obama was not nor has he ever been a US Citizen, nor are his children.
The Court read carefully this argument and rejected it summarily as nonsense. where did you learn the argument that you posit above? Who taught you that argument?

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