BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Jacques Ottawa

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Save your breath, read yours posts 93729 and 93731 opu were frustreated, had nothing to reply, no ammo, in your palrance.

Now, slither back under your rock, Rush, aka LRS
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American Lady wrote:
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u prove it with every word u utter....
Give me one line of mine that says that. Just one.

Oh, writing that your are a Pravda-loving commie and Rush aka LRs is a traitor is not being anti-American. I know Americans ,real Americans, and you too are NOT real Americans. Find something else.
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oops omg corr : YOU TWO I just made an American er hmm Lady kinda like Rush aka LRS booboo

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Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Let Rogue sasy it.
A classic case of Libtardian Logic;
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“zero nuclear weapons”

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If President Lincoln was alive today he would be very ashamed of the Republican Party today for the way they are acting.
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Meaning of "High Crimes and Misdemeanors"
by Jon Roland, Constitution Society

The question of impeachment turns on the meaning of the phrase in the Constitution at Art. II Sec. 4, "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors". I have carefully researched the origin of the phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors" and its meaning to the Framers, and found that the key to understanding it is the word "high". It does not mean "more serious". It refers to those punishable offenses that only apply to high persons, that is, to public officials, those who, because of their official status, are under special obligations that ordinary persons are not under, and which could not be meaningfully applied or justly punished if committed by ordinary persons.

Under the English common law tradition, crimes were defined through a legacy of court proceedings and decisions that punished offenses not because they were prohibited by statutes, but because they offended the sense of justice of the people and the court. Whether an offense could qualify as punishable depended largely on the obligations of the offender, and the obligations of a person holding a high position meant that some actions, or inactions, could be punishable if he did them, even though they would not be if done by an ordinary person.

Offenses of this kind survive today in the Uniform Code of Military Justice. It recognizes as punishable offenses such things as refusal to obey orders, abuse of authority, dereliction of duty, moral turpitude, and conduct unbecoming. These would not be offenses if committed by a civilian with no official position, but they are offenses which bear on the subject's fitness for the duties he holds, which he is bound by oath or affirmation to perform.

Perjury is usually defined as "lying under oath". That is not quite right. The original meaning was "violation of one's oath (or affirmation)".

The word "perjury" is usually defined today as "lying under oath about a material matter", but that is not its original or complete meaning, which is "violation of an oath". We can see this by consulting the original Latin from which the term comes. From An Elementary Latin Dictionary, by Charlton T. Lewis (1895), Note that the letter "j" is the letter "i" in Latin.

periurium, i, n,, a false oath, perjury.
periurus, adj., oath-breaking, false to vows, perjured. iuro, avi, atus, are, to swear, take an oath.
iurator, oris, m., a swearer.
iuratus, adj., sworn under oath, bound by an oath.
ius, iuris, that which is binding, right, justice, duty.
per,... IV. Of means or manner, through, by, by means of,... under pretense of, by the pretext of,....

By Art. II Sec. 1 Cl. 8, the president must swear: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." He is bound by this oath in all matters until he leaves office. No additional oath is needed to bind him to tell the truth in anything he says, as telling the truth is pursuant to all matters except perhaps those relating to national security. Any public statement is perjury if it is a lie, and not necessary to deceive an enemy.

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American Lady

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When a person takes an oath (or affirmation) before giving testimony, he is assuming the role of an official, that of "witness under oath", for the duration of his testimony. That official position entails a special obligation to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and in that capacity, one is punishable in a way he would not be as an ordinary person not under oath. Therefore, perjury is a high crime.

An official such as the president does not need to take a special oath to become subject to the penalties of perjury. He took an oath, by Art. II Sec. 1 Cl. 8, to "faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States" and to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" to the best of his ability. While he holds that office, he is always under oath, and lying at any time constitutes perjury if it is not justified for national security.

Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr erred in presenting in his referral only those offenses which could be "laid at the feet" of the president. He functioned like a prosecutor of an offense against criminal statutes that apply to ordinary persons and are provable by the standards of "proof beyond a reasonable doubt". That is not to say that such offenses are not also high crimes or misdemeanors when committed by an official bound by oath. Most such offenses are. But "high crimes and misdemeanors" also includes other offenses, applicable only to a public official, for which the standard is "preponderance of evidence". Holding a particular office of trust is not a right, but a privilege, and removal from such office is not a punishment. Disablement of the right to hold any office in the future would be a punishment, and therefore the standards of "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" would apply before that ruling could be imposed by the Senate.

It should be noted, however, that when an offense against a statute is also a "high crime or misdemeanor", it may be, and usually is, referred to by a different name, when considered as such. Thus, an offense like "obstruction of justice" or "subornation of perjury" may become "abuse of authority" when done by an official bound by oath. As such it would be grounds for impeachment and removal from office, but would be punishable by its statutory name once the official is out of office.

An executive official is ultimately responsible for any failures of his subordinates and for their violations of the oath he and they took, which means violations of the Constitution and the rights of persons. It is not necessary to be able to prove that such failures or violations occurred at his instigation or with his knowledge, to be able, in Starr's words, to "lay them at the feet" of the president. It is sufficient to show, on the preponderance of evidence, that the president was aware of misconduct on the part of his subordinates, or should have been, and failed to do all he could to remedy the misconduct, including termination and prosecution of the subordinates and compensation for the victims or their heirs. The president's subordinates include everyone in the executive branch, and their agents and contractors. It is not limited to those over whom he has direct supervision. He is not protected by "plausible deniability". He is legally responsible for everything that everyone in the executive branch is doing.

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Therefore, the appropriate subject matter for an impeachment and removal proceeding is the full range of offenses against the Constitution and against the rights of persons committed by subordinate officials and their agents which have not been adequately investigated or remedied. The massacre at Waco, the assault at Ruby Ridge, and many, many other illegal or excessive assaults by federal agents, and the failure of the president to take action against the offenders, is more than enough to justify impeachment and removal from office on grounds of dereliction of duty. To these we could add the many suspicious incidents that indicate covered up crimes by federal agents, including the suspicious deaths of persons suspected of being knowledgeable of wrongdoing by the president or others in the executive branch, or its contractors.

The impeachment and removal process should be a debate on the entire field of proven and suspected misconduct by federal officials and agents under this president, and if judged to have been excessive by reasonable standards, to be grounds for removal, even if direct complicity cannot be shown.
http://www.constitution.org/cmt/high_crimes.h...
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Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Give me one line of mine that says that. Just one.
Oh, writing that your are a Pravda-loving commie and Rush aka LRs is a traitor is not being anti-American. I know Americans ,real Americans, and you too are NOT real Americans. Find something else.
I'm real Jackie. She is also.
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If President Lincoln was alive today he would be very ashamed of the Republican Party today for the way they are acting.
And he would let them know it immediately; after deporting every single DIM.
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Lady Justice Has Died Ė Paul Hollrah

Historians might have viewed the events of Thursday, January 26, 2012 in Atlanta, Georgia, as one of the singular events of American history, along with landmark events such as Lincolnís signing of the Emancipation Proclamation; Leeís surrender at Appomattox; the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor; and the Supreme Courtís Brown v. Board of Education decision.

On that day, a trial was held in an Atlanta courtroom that would have a longstanding impact on state-federal relations, reversing the long downward trend toward the accumulation of power at the federal level, at the expense of the states. It was a trial in which ordinary citizens once again defended the concept that, in the United States, it is the people who rule, not the political elites.

The Atlanta trial became an event of major national significance on January 3, 2012, when The Hon. Michael M. Malihi, Deputy Chief Judge of the Georgia Office of State Administrative Hearings, issued a ruling denying Barack Obamaís motion to dismiss four cases alleging that he is not eligible to serve as President of the United States.

Since 2008, nearly 90 court cases have been filed, challenging Obamaís eligibility. All have fallen victim to either political correctness or political chicanery; none have been successful.

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http://theydontfoolme.com/1292/lady-justice-h...

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When a child is born within a marriage, what last name does it get?

What last name does the wife take?

There are all sorts of laws, you obots, have "no clue" about......YET you continue "bullying" your way on in defense of him.

What does "patrilineal" define? huummmmm
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I'm real Jackie. She is also.
YepperZ....;-)
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American Lady wrote:
When a child is born within a marriage, what last name does it get?
What last name does the wife take?
There are all sorts of laws, you obots, have "no clue" about......YET you continue "bullying" your way on in defense of him.
What does "patrilineal" define? huummmmm
Lol, you think that it's a law a woman takes her husbands last name?

What a clown you are.
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Sweet.
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Bill Sr.
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We will no longer be silent as our faith and our Republic are being put to the test.
Unfortunately the 2012 election and the hoopla that goes with it is somewhat of a distraction from the undeniable fact that we are truly and quite possibly in a final battle for the soul of America.
The rhetoric and repercussions of past elections have been childs play compared to the consequences of our current terms of political engagement inherently involved in and the ultimate outcome of this battle.
We simply must begin to grasp the magnitude of this pivotal struggle. A concerted war against individual freedom of conscience and personal development within the moral society of our nation is and has been underway for several decades.
The Judea-Christian society born in the 18th century here on American soil which established a Republic that forged a gentle giant of a nation offering its inhabitants hope and freedom and a beacon to the poor or oppressed around the globe drawing millions of them to us is being challenged by the political descendants of despots from past tyrannical governments.
Our heritage would not allow these masters of deceit to ever capture the hearts of men here in the land of the free with the God they openly acknowledged and sought guidance from UNTIL the minds of the young were out of the hands of their parents and into the arms of a far reaching government bureaucracy skillfully crafted and always disguised as a benevolent care giver.
The first step was public schools, originally designed for the poor or disadvantaged, were covertly recognized as the primary target to begin the eventual transformation of our nation. By the middle of the last century the progressives virtually owned and for the most part operated both elementary and secondary (government run and funded) education in America.
The educational dumbing down of Americans involved more than the rewriting of history. It had to include a diabolical reformation of conscience and destruction of Judeo-Christian morality to accomplish the evil intent of those wanting to break the back of Bible totting flag waving patriotic citizens who cling to their right to own guns and provide prosperity for themselves and their posterity.
Unlike the sudden and brutal Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor which awakened a sleeping giant, this sneak attack was a long silent but deadly poisoning of the minds and morals of a nation until we began to compromise our values in the name of tolerance or fairness or social justice weakening our will to staunchly defend the principles on which the Republic was founded.
These enemies of liberty with their newly established politically correct language defining our values and legislative agendas are now not only simply within our society they are in political control of our lives at present. Politics is being used as the tool or weapon of the real enemy. We must understand the real enemy is EVIL in all the forms of misinformation, suggestive entertainment, or corrupt political theory it can deceitfully use to conceal its character and the only remaining obstacle to its complete success is the waning moral fiber left in the values held by Judeo-Christian patriots of this country.
Thus, it is all together fitting that we not hesitate to use the words and tone of our founders which gave birth to our nation to demand our leaders and the candidates for government office, especially the presidency in particular, to profess those precious values and vow to govern justly by them and to boldly face the critics who dare suggest they are not relevant in today's political arena.
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Well, A lot of people do not know how Ann Dunham hooked up with Obuma's father. Well, every News Years Eve the Great Kahuna sacrifices a virgin to the volcano god and he had heard there was this Howly girl on Oahu that was still a virgin and Ann knew she was endanger but she could not get any high school boys to deflower her. So she started to hang out on Hotel Street in hopes of hooking up with a drunk sailor but no luck there so she then headed over the the university and she finally ran into this Popolo African student who agreed to do her so long as she wore a gorilla suit. Thus Ann was saved from the volcano god but we weren't.
God, you must be a very unhappy person or just a woman hater to speak of a mother in this manner!

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Listen to the voice of the narrator. Can you guess who it is? Who was the governor of Alabama in the early 1940's. Frank M.Dixon, a Democrat. Yes, between 1874 and 1987 (over a hundred years) every Alabama governor was a Democrat. Yep, Alabama one of the most racist states was run by Democrats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Now again, who is the narrator?
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We can pray our hearts out but we need also to willingly stand and step forward to express publicly our defense of freedom as well as humble ourselves before God to assure the Father that we do cherish our faith and freedom and deserve His help.
Time is running out. It is now or never. As students of history and/or an ardent believer in the word of God as given to us in the Gospels, who among us can deny or naively ignore the rampant Evil that is staring us in the face today?

http://www.catholic.org/comments/news/46952/...
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/MomsPDFs...

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