BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

Just Sayin wrote:

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The case was a question of eligibility but Obama's lawyer wanted the judge to dismiss the case saying Florida hadn't yet chosen Obama as the nominee.
The judge stated there was a letter stating the contrary and wouldn't dismiss.

Just Sayin wrote:

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Well somebody is shaking in their boots otherwise why would Florida say that Obama wasn't their presidential nominee when he was the only one on the primary ballot and won the popular vote?

Poppo wrote:

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Really! I thought the case was that he hadn’t been certified, but then again the ignorant birfoon has proven his remarkable skills of deduction to the thread many times before.

I was referring to the case YOU were trying to make not “The Florida Case”. Got a clue? Obama is not the official nominee until he’s been certified and that won’t come until after the convention.

spud wrote:

<quoted text>I'm an independent Mr. Poppo. I hate free trade, corporate welfare, taxbreaks for the rich and this insane frenzy to drill baby drill when we are currently exporting refined gasoline. I hate stupid, unneccessary wars. I have no use for Wall Streets manipulations either. On the other hand, I hate our out of control welfare state. I hate a government that tries to make everyone dependent on them. I hate overspending. I hate our lack of immigration enforcement. I hate our 2 new supreme court appointees and would justifiably be afraid that Obama would nominate another loser like Gloria Allred if he were reelected. I hate Holder and Napolitano. I think the last election, like this election, was a selection of the lesser evil. Both parties suck. They're nothing more than self perpetuating power bases.

From this post we can have a decent conversation, but you should expect to be ridiculed when you say you have yet to see documentation that proves Obama’s POB because I know you’re simply lying to yourself. We do however agree on some of the same issues and you can rest peacefully in the knowledge that Obama would never nominate the likes of a Gloria Allred to the SC.

Off to Vermont for 3 days, take care all.

Jacques Ottawa wrote:

Off to Vermont for 3 days, take care all.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

Poppo wrote:

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I was referring to the case YOU were trying to make not “The Florida Case”. Got a clue? Obama is not the official nominee until he’s been certified and that won’t come until after the convention.

Yada Yada Yada

If Obozo isn't hiding something he wouldn't be doing all this twisting and squirming.

Got a clue? How much are you getting paid to TROLL for Obozo?

Just Sayin wrote:

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Not so fast there pilgrim. The hospital hasn't confirmed anything and are not talking.
As a matter of fact when Zullo was in Hawaii he said in an interview with Giller that he talked with someone who had worked in the hospital at the time of Obama's alleged birth and that person knew Ann Dunham and said that she did not have Obama in that hospital.
Have learned from experience that we can't believe a word the DOH says.

Got Alzheimer's? HIPAA. Duh.
Sorry, it's not the hospital's job to verify birth records. DOH and the Department of Vital Records maintain official birth records. You simply don't want to believe the facts.

Zullo said that someone said that .... Therefore birfoons can believe DOH is in on the grandiose Kenya cover-up theory that never had legs.

Go take your meds.

The LFBC at the White House web site has been conclusively verified and the data certified as correct.

Get a life.

wojar wrote:

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UR way more than a dollar short and a day late.
No law in the State of Hawaii permits or has ever permitted place of birth for a child born beyond the borders of Hawaii to be listed as born in the state.
Meanwhile, the State of Hawaii has certified that he was born in Honolulu at Kapiolani.
Your short form fantasies are passé.

Poppo wrote:

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From this post we can have a decent conversation, but you should expect to be ridiculed when you say you have yet to see documentation that proves Obama’s POB because I know you’re simply lying to yourself. We do however agree on some of the same issues and you can rest peacefully in the knowledge that Obama would never nominate the likes of a Gloria Allred to the SC.

Hawaii law 338 through 338-19 says they can pretty much do anything they want as far a a birth certificate is concerned.

We want to see the microfilm.

wojar wrote:

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Got Alzheimer's? HIPAA. Duh.
Sorry, it's not the hospital's job to verify birth records. DOH and the Department of Vital Records maintain official birth records. You simply don't want to believe the facts.
Zullo said that someone said that .... Therefore birfoons can believe DOH is in on the grandiose Kenya cover-up theory that never had legs.
Go take your meds.
The LFBC at the White House web site has been conclusively verified and the data certified as correct.
Get a life.
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If the hospital doesn't have a record then what does that say about the DOH?

Don't have time for your nonsense. I have work to do. Bye

Jacques,
The truth hurts. The gun is an innanimate object.
I have no affiliation whatsoever with the National Rifle Association, nor any desire to do so.
I have never read any of their literature, nor ever attended any NRA events, and will never do so.
Don't tell me what to do. I am merely stating an opinion on keen observations.
It may come as a pleasant surprise to inform you and the others that I do not own or possess any guns or any other type of weaponry of any sort.
I also do not have on FOID card.
Nor have I ever fired a gun in my life other than a BB/pellet gun out in the back yard at some tin cans with my brothers when we were in our youth.
Guns are not the larger problem, Jacques. People are.
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spud wrote:

<quoted text>Your response is typical of a liberal in disagreement with someone elses opinion. Instead of trying to refute anything that is said by the other side, you feel compelled to call your opponent names. Ignorant, delusional, fool, brain dead, birfoon and twilite zone are things you mention in your post that do absolutely nothing to prove or disprove Obamas place of birth. Do you really think these words mean anything to me or any other thinking person?

Sorry, Birfoon, but POB has been conclusively established.

Anyone who needs more evidence that the President was born in Hawaii, or that the earth is round, needs help not evidence.

Poppo wrote:

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You believe it because you allow yourself to believe it. It’s called willful ignorance. Do you think Hillary and McCain had no desire to win the election? Do you really think if there was any chance of Obama being born elsewhere they wouldn’t have found it out?
When you and other birfoon’s say Obama wasn’t properly vetted you’re only fooling yourself as evidenced by a full four years of birfoon vetting where you remain at square one. Instead of conceding that maybe, just maybe I could be wrong, you take your delusion into the twilight zone and accuse congress and every judge across the country of being corrupt.
The raw truth is you don’t want Obama to be an American and certainly not natural born; and you don’t want it so bad you’ve allowed your delusion to delete the cells your brain normally uses to make everyday common sense determinations. You need to stop making excuses for your inability to discover birfoon “truth” and start realizing why you haven’t yet and never will find it.

the westerner wrote:

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dummy, you should have joined up west of the Mississippi like i did and went to California.

Nah, I already had a pair of sunglasses.

the westerner wrote:

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were you later a BAM ? something happened to screw you up totally.

Now THAT was funny!

Terry Buckeye wrote:

First timer here, Terri. Tell me, is a person required to produce evidence of a crime if he commits it? It seems unlikely to me. I don't see how, if the President DID conspire to defraud the courts, he could be REQUIRED to produce evidence to that effect. I only ask because you seem to have a good grasp on the legal issues.
Thanx

Our important Fifth Amendment (below) only applies in the context of a "criminal case," i.e., one in which charges have been brought or may be brought. There is a different issue when the matter involves the production of documents.
However, none of this is applicable to the "birther" fantasy. Article II has self-contained provisions with respect to the determination (not a "burden of proof") that a candidate about to be elected is eligible. See The Federalist #68: "The process of election affords a moral CERTAINTY, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."
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"[N]or shall any person ... be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself ...." Amendment V.

Conservative girl wrote:

I am a product of two American parents who believed in the Constitution, and loved this country. Obama is a Constitutional Law Professor who by his presense in the White House is spitting on the rule of law and the Constitution.

"Presense." ??? Were your loyal "American" parents as ignorant and uneducated as you? If they were REAL parents,why didn't they send you to one of our great nation's elite Eastern colleges?

jim nazyum wrote:

Find someone honest to vote for.

And who is YOUR candidate for President in 2012 with a realistic chance of winning the November election?

jim nazyum wrote:

Believe your own eyes when you watch the sheriff's videos or believe the pols who tell you obama is legit while they hide the original documents.

Don't pay attention to the "pols."
The eligibility was determined with LEGAL FINALITY under the prescribed constitutional procedure on Jan. 8, 2009. As a lover of our great nation's sacred Constitution, you surely know what happened on that date. But, since most "birthers" do not, please tell the Class what great constitutional event occured then. Thank you.
BTW, tell the Class whether you think ol' sheriff jo should be prosecuted for his posse's blatant violation of Article VI or should he be given a pass based on his ignorance of The Law and his lack of education.

Terri Tanna wrote:

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Our important Fifth Amendment (below) only applies in the context of a "criminal case," i.e., one in which charges have been brought or may be brought. There is a different issue when the matter involves the production of documents.
However, none of this is applicable to the "birther" fantasy. Article II has self-contained provisions with respect to the determination (not a "burden of proof") that a candidate about to be elected is eligible. See The Federalist #68: "The process of election affords a moral CERTAINTY, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."
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"[N]or shall any person ... be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself ...." Amendment V.

Thanks. I thought that the whole premise that he was required to provide proof of his guilt was kind of weird. I thoughtthat the fifth amendment would apply because he was named in some lawsuits. Didn't think about it having to do with a criminal proceding. Got it!

Just Sayin wrote:

Can you believe the twisting and squirming of these Obots.

Are you referring to the United States Supreme Court upholding the eligibility of your President? Kerchner v. Obama (cert. denied 2010)?

American Lady wrote:

Was U.S. vs. Wong Kim Ark Wrongly Decided?

Don't worry about Ark. Do you know that if it is not overturned it remains controlling?
But it doesn't matter. There is Kerchner v. Obama (cert. denied 2010) directly on the Obama eligibility matter.
Why don't "birthers" ever address Kerchner?