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I guess you didn't get the memo wojo, you know the one from NBC where they apologized and fired the producer for doctoring the tapes. What about the one from media matters where the guy resigned after calling Drudge a liar and claiming he was publishing a fake photograph when in fact he posted one from Mr. Martin's Twitter account that was a whole lot more current than the five-year-old picture mommy and daddy gave the press?
It's over wojo, Martin's dead and Zimmerman will never see the inside of a courtroom. Let it go already…
He wasn't an innocent teenager, he was damn near A grown ass man, with a sporty gold grill and tats on suspension from school in Miami and shipped up north by his mother who could not control him.
Instead of politely telling Zimmerman that he was returning from the store with skittles and tea going to his father's girlfriends house, he attacked Zimmerman like a fucking thug, I'll just bet he was surprised that Zimmerman was packing…
Oh well…
But if you feel so strongly about it, get off your ass logout of topix, step out into the sunshine and head down to Sanford and join the Black Panthers and Al Sharpton…
Sorry, Skid, but the "f-------oon" language was not doctored. That was present well before the NBC segment aired. Infact I never saw the NBC video. First saw it on CNN well before the Today Show episode.

Meanwhile a special prosecutor will decide whether to file charges. I'm not particularly interested in Skid's prophesy that "Zimmerman will never see the inside of a courtroom."

BTW, Zimmerman cannot simply say he thought his life was in danger. He must show by preponderance of evidence that his belief was reasonable in order to assert an affirmative defense.

I'll just wait and see what happens. No need for prophecy.
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Sorry BirfoonLady, but stalking a black teenager relentlessly because he is a f------ coo- is is not "engaged in a lawful activity." It's a hate crime.
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You can say what you lke about Obama, that he's a socialist, a communist. a non-American, a Kenyan, a British subject, that he never attended school, anything you want, that's fine. But one thing he ain't is dumb. Be aware.
"Be aware"? Of what? Or did you mean "Beware"? Of what?
I don't doubt O'Bummer is smart but he isn't that smart. But he is corrupt!!! He makes Nixon look like an alter boy!
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Prosecutor Angela Corey will not charge Zimmerman with first-degree murder. That requires an indictment by a grand jury.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-0...
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Ah, idiot, you do not have to be on your own property. He has a Florida Conceal Cary Permit and he can go just about anywhere he wants to.... armed. He also has the right to defend himself, which he did!!!
Most street thugs in Florida know this so they go after Canadians, New Yorkers, or others who probably are not armed.
Here in Jacksonville a crackhead tried to rob a Bingo Parlor and two seniors pulled out their heaters and fired his ass up. And as soon as he got out of the hospital, he went to prison!!!
Even the Occutards know not to get in a Floridians face. Trayvon was a stupid drugged up punk!
Apparently, Zimmerman's lawyers have quit on him, because he is NO LONGER IN FLORIDA....yeah...and hasn't called his lawyers since Sunday....
Sure, he's just lily white. A guilty man runs. His attorneys may believe he's innocent as Bambi, but the prosecutor can now add FLIGHT RISK to her concerns, can't she?
Concealed and Carry is not the same as the 'stand your ground' law being used here....
HE HUNTED Mr. Martin. He wasn't just casually out for a stroll, and attacked by Martin, HE WAS OUT LOOKING FOR PUNKS...the stand your ground law will not cover him here. He would have never had possession of a weapon legally, had his daddy not negotiated a plea bargain on his felony assault charge....but go ahead and keep defending a thug....you're too stupid to recognize THUG when you see one....you, like so many racist pigs, think all thugs wear certain clothing, and are black. Sometimes a thug is a felonious wannabe with an anger problem, and a race problem. idiot.
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YOU answered your OWN question....right here:
The intent of the law was to protect YOUR OWN PROPERTY should someone come on to your property, enter your home,
----->>>>-- or attack your person....<<<<< -----
There is no proof that Zimmerman was attacked, in fact, the so called 'witnesses' never testified that he was attacked. In addition, the 911 tapes and the phone call to the girlfriend indicate that it was the other way around....the audio on the 911 tape has been determined to NOT BE Zimmerman screaming for his life, but instead is Martin....so how do you explain Zimmerman was
'protecting' his property or life, when HE WASN"T ON HIS OWN PROPERTY and the person he was engaging was UNARMED screaming for his life? Zimmerman HAD THE GUN, not MArtin. How does Martin become the POWERFUL killer/threat, when Zimmerman was the one armed, the one stalking, and the one heard confronting Martin?
You're so worried that because this was a person carrying, that this may somehow give more weight to the reform of gun laws in this country, so YOU"LL DEFEND SOME OVER ZEALOUS KILLER, no matter how guilty he is, to defend YOUR precious 2nd Ammendment rights. Pathetic.
BTW, Zimmerman's attorneys have quit defending him...LOL!
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<quoted text>Hahaha!!! Screw you, I am not a democrat.
That's a relief.

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<quoted text>Hahaha!!! Screw you, I am not a democrat.
Oolongti wrote:
<quoted text> That's a relief.
I agree. The Democrats' gain.
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The Stand Your Ground law introduced two conclusive presumptions that favor defendants who are claiming self-defense:
The presumption that the defendant had a reasonable fear that deadly force was necessary; and
The presmuption that the intruder intended to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.
These two presumptions protect the defender from civil and criminal prosecution for unlawful use of deadly or non-deadly force in self-defense. Moreover, the defender has no duty to retreat, regardless of where he is attacked, so long as he is in a place where he is lawfully entitled to be when the danger occurs.
In passing the Stand Your Ground self-defense law, the Florida Legislature expressed its intent that no person should "be required to needlessly retreat in the face of intrusion or attack." The Stand Your Ground self-defense law effectively expands the "Castle Doctrine" by expanding what is meant by the concept of one's "castle" to include any place where a person is lawfully entitled to be.
http://www.avvo.com/legal-guides/ugc/floridas...
Chapter 776
JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE
776.013&#8195;Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.—
(3)&#8195;A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
http://archive.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cf...
according to the police dispatch: " We DON"T NEED YOU TO FOLLOW HIM"...ie, "get back in your car".
Seems to me, he was told to stay 'out of it'. That constitutes 'unlawful' activity or being where he wasn't supposed to be. In that regard, the law won't cover him. In addition, there is no proof that shows he was 'fighting' for his life.....according to the police records, and the audio tapes, the voice heard screaming for his life was NOT ZIMMERMAN. Which means, he shot and killed an UNARMED teenager based on his INEXPERIENCE and NON TRAINING, acting on full emotion, and NOT RATIONAL THOUGHT. Since you claim you're soo good at discerning bullshit from truth, I would think you'd have figured this out already. But then, defending a thug is what you love to do.
Please tell the class again why his attorneys have bailed?
And please tell the class why he now has a Facebook page begging for money?
riiiight, he's the poooor little victim, who COULDn't FOLLOW POLICE ORDERS....
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Enough of your BS and outright exaggerations. Obzma misspoke, he knows, hell, even Sarah Palin knows that there are 50 states and not 57. As to the concentration camp liberation, the Nazis had over 5,000 of them all over occupied Europe, with over 20 in Poland alone. Okay, so he got the wrong camp. Big deal. Keystone pipeline? I certainly agree with his decision. Environmental nightmare. I don't however agree with his approving the southern segment. So-called loss on GM was a gain as how much do you think it would've cost the nation in unemployment benefits and lost industrial capacity had the GM and Chrysler collapsed? Cash for clunkers was a success, the proof is in the pudding, look at car sales, look at the Big 3's recovery. Trinity Church? Why should Obama be responsible for what his pastor said and says? BTW, no longer his pastor. If you are Catholic, or a boy scout supporter, are you responsible for the pedophilia that was so rampant in the Church and scouts?
"He misspoke". Every idiot misspeaks when he babbles nonsense. How did he misspeak abot the number of states? Why 57 instead of 50? A true knucklehead. Not only did Obama mess up Auscwitz, but he also misrepresented that he had an uncle, when his mother was an only child. Is there an intercontinental railroad? I hope so, so we can ship Obama back to Kenya. How can a leftie and environmentalist support Cash for Clunkers, where the federal dollars went for rebates so old F150s could be traded in for new ones? How can you support destroying perfectly good cars and motors that could be used by the poor? The only stupider Commie program was the Great Leap Forward, where Obama's hero Mao ordered the peasants to melt down farm implements to augment commie statistics. Both knuckleheads. Obama cried when he heard Rev Wright's Audacity of Hope serman, a complete piece of rambling nonsense. Obama even lied about Rev. Wright saying "White folks' greed runs a world in need." That is nowhere in the sermon. Obama wrote that himself as part of his racist repertoire.
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Apparently, Zimmerman's lawyers have quit on him, because he is NO LONGER IN FLORIDA....yeah...and hasn't called his lawyers since Sunday....
Sure, he's just lily white. A guilty man runs. His attorneys may believe he's innocent as Bambi, but the prosecutor can now add FLIGHT RISK to her concerns, can't she?
Concealed and Carry is not the same as the 'stand your ground' law being used here....
HE HUNTED Mr. Martin. He wasn't just casually out for a stroll, and attacked by Martin, HE WAS OUT LOOKING FOR PUNKS...the stand your ground law will not cover him here. He would have never had possession of a weapon legally, had his daddy not negotiated a plea bargain on his felony assault charge....but go ahead and keep defending a thug....you're too stupid to recognize THUG when you see one....you, like so many racist pigs, think all thugs wear certain clothing, and are black. Sometimes a thug is a felonious wannabe with an anger problem, and a race problem. idiot.
HOW can you be "running"....IF there's NO charge?......
Man....I thought I'd DONE seen ALL the STUPIDITY on here....

Evidently NOT!.....=)

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Where do I use the word massive?
But heh, it certainly could be larger than two.
Grow up!

So Tacky didn't use the word, "massive".

Now where did I say Tacky used the word?

So now Tacky believes that the president was elected do to a teeny weeny conspiracy involving DNC, all the judges who have ruled against the birfoons, two governors of Hawaii, DOH Directors Fukino and Fuddy, and vital Statistics head, Alvin Onaka, the entire main stream media, internet "scrubbed" etc.

Grow up!

Please, grow up!
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Grow up.
Tacky believes that the DNC was engaged in a massive conspiracy to elect an ineligible president but cringed in fear concerning language used in affidavits -- differences that were immaterial.
Grow up!
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There is no proof that Zimmerman was attacked, in fact, the so called 'witnesses' never testified that he was attacked. In addition, the 911 tapes and the phone call to the girlfriend indicate that it was the other way around....the audio on the 911 tape has been determined to NOT BE Zimmerman screaming for his life, but instead is Martin....so how do you explain Zimmerman was
'protecting' his property or life, when HE WASN"T ON HIS OWN PROPERTY and the person he was engaging was UNARMED screaming for his life? Zimmerman HAD THE GUN, not MArtin. How does Martin become the POWERFUL killer/threat, when Zimmerman was the one armed, the one stalking, and the one heard confronting Martin?
You're so worried that because this was a person carrying, that this may somehow give more weight to the reform of gun laws in this country, so YOU"LL DEFEND SOME OVER ZEALOUS KILLER, no matter how guilty he is, to defend YOUR precious 2nd Ammendment rights. Pathetic.
BTW, Zimmerman's attorneys have quit defending him...LOL!
YOU pick out certain comments to post about.
WHY don't YOU go BACK and read the one on Florida LAW.....dipchit!
CH 776
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He SWORE to on the Bible......
When he took his "oath of office".....
That's WORSE.....
since you claim you're so good at discerning truth from bullshit, please tell the class why a Bible is the 'icon' of 'truth' when it is filled with hundreds upon hundreds of distorted historical facts, omissions, and murky logic.
For instance, the children of Adam and Eve were bannished after the Fall from the Garden along with their parents....and they took wives from the "land of the giants". If Adam and Eve were the 'first people', where the HELL DID THE GIANTS COME FROM?
According to Biblical account, the Earth was the center of the universe....we KNOW for a scientific fact, it is NOT the center of the universe, and is in fact rotating around the sun, not the other way around...Galileo knew this too, but was imprisoned for the remainder of his life by the Catholic Church ( those wonderful Christians...) for saying so.
Jesus mother, Mary was never married to Joseph when she became pregnant, which makes her an unwed mother, despite the cover up of the CAtholic church's efforts otherwise.
The 6th Egyptian Dynasty seems to have 'survived' the global Flood of Noah and the ARk....proven fact, via archeological digs, etc.

So, If Obama is swearing on the book that has some dubious things written in it, I don't see how that it makes it any worse than if he placed his hand on a book of Shakespearian plays. AT LEAST we know who wrote the plays...we don't know who/whom actually wrote the Bible...ahem.

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Sorry, Skid, but the "f-------oon" language was not doctored. That was present well before the NBC segment aired. Infact I never saw the NBC video. First saw it on CNN well before the Today Show episode.
Meanwhile a special prosecutor will decide whether to file charges. I'm not particularly interested in Skid's prophesy that "Zimmerman will never see the inside of a courtroom."
BTW, Zimmerman cannot simply say he thought his life was in danger. He must show by preponderance of evidence that his belief was reasonable in order to assert an affirmative defense.
I'll just wait and see what happens. No need for prophecy.
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Hey Wojo, Can you read .... and comprehend what you read? I have posted this a half dozen times and you still do not get it?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/double-murder...
Now, might I suggest your mother read it to you ... s l o w l y!
The STATE must prove you were not acting in self defense! The attacker need not have any weapon, not touch you and you do not have to believe your life is in danger. All you have to believe is that he/they will harm you. In the case of a woman, fear that she might be raped!!!
In the case about two men approached a guy in a sail boat and boarded his boat and he shot and killed both of them. Yes, he was charged with two counts of capitol murder but the judge threw it out as they did not prove he did NOT act in self defense.
If you do not like Florida's law, stay the hell out!!!
Even the Occutards who protested here in Jacksonville behaved themselves as they knew that if anyone felt they threaten them, they would be shot!!!
And that is why I call you guys Libtards as you can't seem to read and comprehend what you read!!!
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Would you prefer he swore on a Koran? How-bout a Freemason bible, or Book of the Vedas?
Birfoons would be all up in arms if he did, but because he swore on a Christian Bible, they're all up in arms. Go figure.
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I wonder, how up in arms will they be if Mitt Romney were to be elected and he swears in on the Book of Mormon??? LOL!!

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NEW JERSEY BALLOT CHALLENGE FILED BY ATTORNEY, MARIO APUZZO
Way cool!

Another birfoon files yet another hopeless, frivolous case.

That's news?

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since you claim you're so good at discerning truth from bullshit, please tell the class why a Bible is the 'icon' of 'truth' when it is filled with hundreds upon hundreds of distorted historical facts, omissions, and murky logic.
For instance, the children of Adam and Eve were bannished after the Fall from the Garden along with their parents....and they took wives from the "land of the giants". If Adam and Eve were the 'first people', where the HELL DID THE GIANTS COME FROM?
According to Biblical account, the Earth was the center of the universe....we KNOW for a scientific fact, it is NOT the center of the universe, and is in fact rotating around the sun, not the other way around...Galileo knew this too, but was imprisoned for the remainder of his life by the Catholic Church ( those wonderful Christians...) for saying so.
Jesus mother, Mary was never married to Joseph when she became pregnant, which makes her an unwed mother, despite the cover up of the CAtholic church's efforts otherwise.
The 6th Egyptian Dynasty seems to have 'survived' the global Flood of Noah and the ARk....proven fact, via archeological digs, etc.
So, If Obama is swearing on the book that has some dubious things written in it, I don't see how that it makes it any worse than if he placed his hand on a book of Shakespearian plays. AT LEAST we know who wrote the plays...we don't know who/whom actually wrote the Bible...ahem.
Ah, Egypt's 6th dynasty was 4,600-4,700 years ago and Noah's Flood was 10,000 to 12,000 years ago? But when the "modern" Egyptians of about 5,500 years ago found structures that had been made long before they got there but the people were not there.
What happened to those people? When did they disappear and why?
Oh, the Spinx, when was it made?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Sphin...
Please note the head is relatively unweathered but the body is and the head is noticeably smaller in proportion. A theory is that the Sphnix was originally a lion carved 10,000 to 12,000 years ago and the body shows signs of severe "water" erosion. When the "modern" Egyptians found the Sphinx some 5,500 years ago only the head shown above the sand. They excavated the body and put a veneer of bricks and are thought to have recarved the head.
Anyway, it makes more sense than you do!
As far as the Bible, there is something called faith. Either you have faith or you don't. I do not bash other people's religions unless they are a threat to me!!!

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I wonder, how up in arms will they be if Mitt Romney were to be elected and he swears in on the Book of Mormon??? LOL!!
Ah, LDS use the Christian Bible. In any event, if he were an atheist, he would not be required to swear on any holy book. Maybe The Little House on the Prairie!
Any way, you have again proven my theory that Progressives are 1) Godless 2) sexual deviants.
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The Presidential oath of office is described in Article II, section 1 of the Constitution:

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A2Sec1.h...

Dweeby dipchit!
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Ah, LDS use the Christian Bible. In any event, if he were an atheist, he would not be required to swear on any holy book. Maybe The Little House on the Prairie!
Any way, you have again proven my theory that Progressives are 1) Godless 2) sexual deviants.
Then how do you explain all your Catholic Priests? LOL!!

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