Romney Signs on to Anti-Gay Group's Campaign Pledge

Brandi8 wrote:

Sadly, research have shown gays are sexual predators including the sexual abuse of babies.

Brandi8 wrote:

There are more and more medical research about the increase of identity issues within the gay community. If being homosexual was normal, gays wouldn't be battling with their sexual identity because gays don't know if they want to be a boy or girl.

Cool Hand Luke wrote:

The evidence supporting the "born that way" claim of Isay and other gay activists is tenuous. It has been uncritically accepted and hyped by the media and some less-than-careful researchers. But it hasn't been replicated by others and is riddled with technical problems.
On the other side is a body of scientific evidence that suggests that homosexuality is adopted by people who are confused, sexually adventurous and/or rebellious. This evidence suggests that sexual orientation is flexible, not immutable. And the evidence comes from the largest studies on the subject, conducted by researchers on both sides of the gay rights debate.
Sexual Preference Shifts
That sexual desire and behavior are flexible was demonstrated by the Kinsey Institute in 1970. It reported(9) that 81% of 684 gays and 93% of 293 lesbians had changed or shifted either their sexual feelings or behaviors after age 12.58% of the gays and 77% of the lesbians reported a second shift in sexual orientation; 31% of the gays and 49% of the lesbians reported a third shift; and 13% of the gays and 30% of the lesbians reported even a fourth shift in sexual orientation before "settling" into adult homosexuality. The shifts reported by these subjects varied in degree, but some were quite dramatic - about a quarter of gays and a third of lesbians once had heterosexual desires and 5% of heterosexual men and 3% of heterosexual women once had substantial homosexual desires. Heterosexuals in the study were much less likely to report shifts in their orientation. Even so, 29% of 337 heterosexual men and 14% of 140 heterosexual women reported at least one shift; while 4% of the men and 1% of the women reported at least three shifts. Immutable things like eye color or skin color don't change once, much less three or four times!
Unlike biological changes, the shifts in sexual orientation began at age 18 or later for half of both gays and lesbians. Sexual changes, five or more years after puberty, are exceptionally late and without biological precedent in development. But changes in tastes (e.g., food or entertainment) often take place around age 18.
Other Evidence
The same Kinsey study also produced other evidence that can not be explained in terms of biological determinism, but would readily support the idea that choice is involved in sexual orientation and behavior:
* 74% of their gays admitted to having been sexually aroused by a female and 80% of lesbians said that they had been sexually aroused by a male;
* 19% of their gays and 38% of lesbians had been heterosexually married;
* 20% of gays, 5% of heterosexual men, 7% of lesbians and no heterosexual women had had sex with animals.
Consistent with these results, the Family Research Institute (FRI) 10 conducted a nationwide random survey of 4,340 adults drawn from 5 U.S. cities in 1983 and found:
* 82% of those currently lesbian and 66% of those currently gay said that they had been in love with someone of the opposite sex;
* 88% of lesbians and 73% of gays had been sexually aroused by someone of the opposite sex;
* 67% of lesbians and 54% of gays reported current sexual attraction to the opposite sex;
* 85% of lesbians and 54% of gays, as adults, had sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex;
* 32% of gays and 47% of lesbians had been heterosexually married; and
* 17% of gays, 3% of heterosexual men, 10% of lesbians and 1% of heterosexual women reported sex with animals.
These are the kinds of sexual choices one would expect from the sexually adventurous or confused. Unless Dr. Isay and his supporters are willing to believe that people are "born" to fall in love, get married or to have sex with animals, some measure of choice, rather than biological inevitability, must have been involved.

Brandi8 wrote:

<quoted text>Awesome information and this explains very well the sexual identity in homosexuals.

Brandi8 wrote:

There are more and more medical research about the increase of identity issues within the gay community. If being homosexual was normal, gays wouldn't be battling with their sexual identity because gays don't know if they want to be a boy or girl.

Cool Hand Luke wrote:

The evidence supporting the "born that way" claim of Isay and other gay activists is tenuous. It has been uncritically accepted and hyped by the media and some less-than-careful researchers. But it hasn't been replicated by others and is riddled with technical problems.
On the other side is a body of scientific evidence that suggests that homosexuality is adopted by people who are confused, sexually adventurous and/or rebellious. This evidence suggests that sexual orientation is flexible, not immutable.

Cool Hand Luke wrote:

The same Kinsey study also produced other evidence that can not be explained in terms of biological determinism, but would readily support the idea that choice is involved in sexual orientation and behavior:
* 74% of their gays admitted to having been sexually aroused by a female and 80% of lesbians said that they had been sexually aroused by a male;

Cool Hand Luke wrote:

* 19% of their gays and 38% of lesbians had been heterosexually married;

Cool Hand Luke wrote:

* 20% of gays, 5% of heterosexual men, 7% of lesbians and no heterosexual women had had sex with animals.

Cool Hand Luke wrote:

Consistent with these results, the Family Research Institute (FRI) 10 conducted a nationwide random survey of 4,340 adults drawn from 5 U.S. cities in 1983 and found:

Brian_G wrote:

Anyone hear of the Chick-fil-A boycott? How is thousands more unemployed food service workers going to further your political goals? Prove you're tough?

Brian_G wrote:

This is reason 18, for keeping marriage male/female. Same sex supporters don't use civil discourse, they use boycotts.

Brian_G wrote:

Reason 19 is bullying. SSM supporters have trouble understanding actions have consequences(reason 17).

Rose_NoHo wrote:

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No, stupid, it's a protest against someone using their profits to work against equal rights for all US citizens.
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That makes no sense, boycotts ARE civil discourse. It's not like anybody is advocating vandalism, or violence against people eating there.
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So, explain to us how gay marriage would lead to more prison rape...

Rose_NoHo wrote:

No, stupid, it's a protest against someone using their profits to work against equal rights for all US citizens.

Rose_NoHo wrote:

That makes no sense, boycotts ARE civil discourse.

Rose_NoHo wrote:

It's not like anybody is advocating vandalism, or violence against people eating there.

Rose_NoHo wrote:

So, explain to us how gay marriage would lead to more prison rape...

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>Not just the CEO, Dan Cathy, you are protesting against every employee and vendor at Chick-fil-A . You'd put thousands of people out of work if you win.

Brian_G wrote:

You say 'profits' as if that's something evil.

Brian_G wrote:

The boycott is against everyone's wages, who works for Chick-fil-A. Think it through, take a minute and consider what your doing.

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>No, they are a type of warfare, restricting your opponents access to vital resources. They are more like extortion or blackmail than civil discourse.

Brian_G wrote:

Civil discourse is engagement in discourse (conversation) intended to enhance understanding. Kenneth J. Gergen describes civil discourse as "the language of dispassionate objectivity",
<quoted text>Is that stage two?

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>If law was changed to make government gender blind, to create unisex marriage, this will cause new social norms. Gender segregated populations in close confinement suffer from restrictions on personal freedom, including loss of consent. Prison rape would be called a "honeymoon" if same sex marriage is legal.

Cool Hand Luke wrote:

As a matter of fact we do:
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Not Born That Way At All
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Gay activists regularly claim that they were "born that way" and thus cannot change their desires or stop their activities. Yet there are numerous documented cases in which homosexuals have changed. The Masters-Johnson Institute reported that: "A 25-year-old man had had his first sexual experience when he was 13 years old. It was arranged by his lesbian mother with an older gay man. After that episode, his imagery and interpersonal sexual experience were exclusively homosexual.... The man was motivated to establish a heterosexual life style because he was sincerely distressed by public disapproval of homosexuality and his personal loneliness.[After treatment, he] has been followed for 3 1/2 years. His sexual interaction has been exclusively heterosexual. He has moved out of the gay community and has changed... his life style."(1)
* Was this man's sexual orientation biologically deturmined?
* If so, how was it initially set - toward heterosexuality or homosexuality?
* And if it was set initially, how was he able to change?
The answers to these seemingly "esoteric" questions matter a great deal. For one thing, the political stakes are high. The March 3, 1993 New York Times/CBS News Poll reported that a majority of those who believe that gays "cannot change" favored permitting homosexuals to serve in the military. Only a third of those who believed it is a choice felt the same way.
Many opinions about gay rights hinge on the question of whether gays are "born that way" and/or "can't change." For instance, 57% of those who believe it is immutable consider homosexuality an acceptable life style vs 18% of those who consider it a choice. But if homosexual activity is no more inevitable or unchangeable than drunkenness or drug use, most people seem willing to insist that homosexuals abandon their destructive behavior.
Two prominent 'homosexual' psychiatrists, examining the evidence of their own lives as well as those of others, came to different conclusions in this long-running debate. The first of these, Sigmund Freud, saw his homosexual urges as pathological. Through self-analysis, he overcame them and eventually rejoiced in the "greater independence that results from having overcome my homosexuality."(2) The second of these, Richard Isay, confronted his desires, pronounced them "natural," divorced his wife and joined the gay subculture.(3)
In 1992 Isay admitted that the "conviction among most, though not all, dynamically oriented psychiatrists in general and psychoanalysts in particular [is] that homosexuality can and should be changed to heterosexuality."(4) Yet, while acknowledging this consensus among his colleagues, Isay called attempts to change homosexual desire "the greatest abuse of psychiatry in America today." Why? Because the "attempt to change is extremely harmful."(3) Instead, society should change to accommodate homosexuality.
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Samatha wrote:

They have a right to their beliefs also!
Anyway it goes people are getting wise to the Gays, Chick-Fil-A is receiving phenomenal support, Gays tried to attack The Salvation Army last Christmas and donations were up considerably, Gays have tried to attack The Boy Scouts and support for the Scouts is off the charts! People are sick of the Gay Bullying!
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Mona Lott wrote:

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You're not even a good liar.
Salvation Army: contributions DOWN
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2011/12/14/s...
http://sandysprings.patch.com/articles/salvat...
http://articles.ivpressonline.com/2011-12-23/...
Boy Scouts: Membership DOWN
http://articles.ivpressonline.com/2011-12-23/...
Chick-fil-a: PLEASE go eat there every day!!!! It will hasten your demise.

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Cool Hand Luke wrote:

http://www.familyresearchinst. org/2009/02/born-what-way/

Samatha wrote:

They have a right to their beliefs also!
Anyway it goes people are getting wise to the Gays, Chick-Fil-A is receiving phenomenal support, Gays tried to attack The Salvation Army last Christmas and donations were up considerably, Gays have tried to attack The Boy Scouts and support for the Scouts is off the charts! People are sick of the Gay Bullying!
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Brian_G wrote:

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This is reason 18, for keeping marriage male/female. Same sex supporters don't use civil discourse, they use boycotts.
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