BMV finds no illegalities in sales to OSU players | BuckeyeXtra

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A decision by Ohio State University not to investigate dozens of cars purchased by athletes and their family members might close the door on learning whether players received improper benefits in violation of NCAA rules.
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Toledo Buckeye

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#61
Jun 23, 2011
 
As the truth comes out in amny of the allegations, always rmemebr the journalism montra: Never let the facts get in the way of a good story!

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#62
Jun 23, 2011
 
Toledo Buckeye wrote:
As the truth comes out in amny of the allegations, always rmemebr the journalism montra: Never let the facts get in the way of a good story!
Or correct spelling.
Big Buck

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Jun 23, 2011
 

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So no laws were broken. Don't tell me that the players were not receiving improper benefits. They were. The very public amounts paid for cars were far less than their value. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who disputes that is a homer in denial. Read the articles. Nothing left to be said except, "what is the punishment?"
So you have factual information to support your claims I suppose. Makes no difference to you and similiar haters that have decided there were improper benefits,even if the FACTS prove there were none. As a retired multiple location auto dealer, I can assure you that an average Gross profit of $1200 at one dealership and Approx $2000 at the other is completly acceptable to 99% of dealer owners in the country. It is obvious that many haters will never accept anything but a death penalty regardless of the facts. I am confidant the NCAA will not impose much more than the possible lose of the wins during the season due to using inelgible players. The Sugar Bowl lose will stand because the NCAA gave its approval AFTER the violations were made public. The resignation of Tressel and no evidance of a coverup by the school or any of the officials. Now can we PLEASE stop all this foolish speculation and instead focus on the fine young athletes who broke no rules and a very talented young coach that has the opportunity to lead one of the best teams in the country forward. We are fortunate to have a strong crop of very talented and cabale athletes that collectively are better than 90% of the teams in the country even after losing 6 players for all or part of the season. Lets talk about that rather than the past. That play is over,now lets get ready for the next play.....GO BUCKS !!!
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#64
Jun 23, 2011
 
capable athletes
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#65
Jun 23, 2011
 
Well...let's review. Wild allegations of cheap cars...and many more players involved in memorabilia for tatoos and $. Now we find out from BMW...no problem with car purchases. An attorney for 8 of 9 additional players says all memorabilia has been accounted for. So, allegations of wild, wide spread lawlessness in Columbus are greatly exagerated.

Suppose SI wants to sell some magazines?

Suppose some Buckeye haters want to see an obstacle to their own success knocked down a few notches?

Let's wait for the dust to clear with the NCAA investigation. I suspect the wrong-doing, while present and wrong, will be much, much less than is being alleged. I suspect that any penalties will be relatively mild as well (sit players a few games, repay any financial gains, additional compliance education, perhaps a few scholarships and/or a year or two of probation).

We'll be fine Buckeyenation. Just fine.

Go Bucks!!!

A few scholarships or a year or two of probation seems like the outside extent of likely punishment.
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Jun 23, 2011
 
bgrubman wrote:
So no laws were broken. Don't tell me that the players were not receiving improper benefits. They were. The very public amounts paid for cars were far less than their value. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who disputes that is a homer in denial. Read the articles. Nothing left to be said except, "what is the punishment?"
Please stop insulting people named Homer, Coach Carr.

Go Bucks!!!
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#67
Jun 24, 2011
 
Tbinder wrote:
There is no cause for celebration here. This still doesn't cover the loaner cars. Let's see how that issue is addressed before putting this away.
DOPE
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#68
Jun 24, 2011
 
buckeye in MN wrote:
Brett Adams, a Columbus lawyer and sports agent, said, "I'm surprised Ohio State wouldn't be proactive, because I think it enhances their defense if they show the NCAA they are looking at their own house."
Another PR stumble by this inept administration. If OSU really believed a more thorough investigation would look positive, then why not do it?
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Jun 24, 2011
 
PotStirrer wrote:
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Actually, today is June 22, 2011.
FIRE THEM NOW
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Jun 24, 2011
 
aa maize wrote:
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You sir, are a brainless homer. I wish this was a satire, but sadly, it's not.
This is you spewing out propaganda you want to believe along with the like minded OSU robots.
"They (ESPN) will do anything short of fabrication to bring us down!" hahahahahah LOLOLOL
It was fabrication that brought OSU down.
THE O-Lie-O-State lied time and time again and didn't report ANYTHING until they were uncovered. Once there was no place left to hide and no excuses to use, OSU fessed up because continuing the fallacy was ridiculous and pointless.
Pull your head out of your **** and look around. You sound as ridiculous as OSU looks.
Let me send you a straw through the internet:========= Now suck it up!
You willbe back up before the ncaa soon for tampering shitbird

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Jun 24, 2011
 
Big Buck wrote:
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So you have factual information to support your claims I suppose. Makes no difference to you and similiar haters that have decided there were improper benefits,even if the FACTS prove there were none. As a retired multiple location auto dealer, I can assure you that an average Gross profit of $1200 at one dealership and Approx $2000 at the other is completly acceptable to 99% of dealer owners in the country. It is obvious that many haters will never accept anything but a death penalty regardless of the facts. I am confidant the NCAA will not impose much more than the possible lose of the wins during the season due to using inelgible players. The Sugar Bowl lose will stand because the NCAA gave its approval AFTER the violations were made public. The resignation of Tressel and no evidance of a coverup by the school or any of the officials. Now can we PLEASE stop all this foolish speculation and instead focus on the fine young athletes who broke no rules and a very talented young coach that has the opportunity to lead one of the best teams in the country forward. We are fortunate to have a strong crop of very talented and cabale athletes that collectively are better than 90% of the teams in the country even after losing 6 players for all or part of the season. Lets talk about that rather than the past. That play is over,now lets get ready for the next play.....GO BUCKS !!!
You're a funny guy!
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#72
Jun 24, 2011
 
bgrubman wrote:
So no laws were broken. Don't tell me that the players were not receiving improper benefits. They were. The very public amounts paid for cars were far less than their value. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who disputes that is a homer in denial. Read the articles. Nothing left to be said except, "what is the punishment?"
hey grubby,
put down your torch & pitchfork & your angry mob mentality & find yourself a life.

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#73
Jun 24, 2011
 
Hammer wrote:
<quoted text>You willbe back up before the ncaa soon for tampering shitbird
Just because Kyle Kalis and Bri'onte Dunn are going to end up at Michigan Does not mean they tampered.

Good luck!
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#74
Jun 24, 2011
 
Heh ... so let's get this straight ...

OSU doesn't investigate because the BMV will investigate.

The BMV investigation has no knowledge or interest of NCAA rules because that is not within their scope.

OSU decides not to investigate because the BMV found no evidence of NCAA violations ... which is probable because they were not looking for any.

Wow.

Here's the thing ... OSU is pushing the NCAA into two positions. The first is to recognize and publicize the lack of control or interest OSU has in this process. Which will bring a hammer likely double what USC received and just short of a death penalty. Or, the NCAA will fall on the sword and become a laughingstock.

It'll be interesting to see how much this pays ... er, plays, out for the NCAA. Not that OSU would resort to such a think as paying to stay out of jail.

“HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW???”

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#75
Jun 24, 2011
 
MMiller wrote:
Wow...no apparent improper stuff with cars/vehicles...imagine that...surely doesn't fit the national template of program run amok.
Congrats at least you were not guilty of one thing. Hell this might be worth a party in Columbus, best news you have had in 6 months. The thug TP can lead the parade, and old sweather vest can clean up after the horses. Seems like he is good at bs lets try him on hs

Have a nice day :)
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#76
Jun 25, 2011
 
Question for ones with the car rebuttals ...

The kid who was advertised as paying $0 for a new 2007 car in 2007 was found to have paid $13,700.

The car, new, was MSRP $40,000 in 2007.

Where does a regular person find a $40k car for $14k if they're not a player?

The NCAA rules state that players cannot be given discounts not available to the public, so the BMV can state that there are sales receipts and the auto shops can state they accepted terms, but that do not exclude the deals from NCAA violations.

Take off the homer glasses and read through the snow.

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#77
Jun 27, 2011
 
Publius wrote:
There is a huge difference between illegal/criminal conduct and NCAA violations. Just ask the Athletic Department at Southern Cal. There were no laws broken -- but they still screwed up and are paying the price !!
True but the whole issue was whether or not these players got a benefit not available to the general public. All of the information reported by the BMV indicates that they did not. What other violation do you think may have occurred?

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Jun 27, 2011
 
Tom wrote:
Question for ones with the car rebuttals ...
The kid who was advertised as paying $0 for a new 2007 car in 2007 was found to have paid $13,700.
The car, new, was MSRP $40,000 in 2007.
Where does a regular person find a $40k car for $14k if they're not a player?
The NCAA rules state that players cannot be given discounts not available to the public, so the BMV can state that there are sales receipts and the auto shops can state they accepted terms, but that do not exclude the deals from NCAA violations.
Take off the homer glasses and read through the snow.
You are as bad as everyone else on here that hears what they want to hear. I just checked and a 2011 Chrysler 300 retails for $27,170 -$40,320. Way to pick out the information you want to use. If this car deal went down in 2010 with T Gibson on a three-year-old car it is probable that the price is fair.

But you want to try to make something out of nothing even after the BMV, a fair and unbiase investigator, reported that in ALL of the transactions that they investigated were paid for fair and square. You need so badly to believe that OSU is corrupt that you cannot even reason properly.

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#79
Jun 27, 2011
 
As a Buckeyes fan, it seems to me that I would feel better if OSU would investigate further just to be sure. It would probably also look like they are making a strong effort to right the ship for the NCAA.

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