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Whatever they said for Ferentz, doubly so for Brian Kelly of Cincy. I don't knock the OSU players, and the offensive line looked better than they have all season and gave Pryor time to think this time, in all I thought they played a very good game considering they were working with the Tressel offensive strategy and playcalling handicap. PSU came out flat, and they played most of the game flat. I hope no one believes that OSU has experienced a miracle and they've solved their offensive reputation that's been a problem for years in just one week.

Everyone's happy with OSU's win over PSU, so it's difficult to remember punting on PSU's 2x yard line instead of kicking a field goal and the fact that being conservative on that play got them exactly nothing (the ball came out to the 20 yard line anyway), slamming Saine into a brick wall a dozen times because PSU already knew what was coming, sometimes consecutively until PSU's defense was so tightly packed that they were bunched up and tripping over each other, running 195LB Herron until he's injured again while you have 2 freshmen, one weighing 230LBS and the closest thing to Beanie Wells they have spending the entire game on the bench.

That long pass from Pryor to Posey when he was in DOUBLE coverage, what it had been a pick instead? Still heroes? There's a reason they're continually being discounted in the polls, and why a lot of folks don't want to see them face a good opponent in a bowl game. "But... it's OSU, you don't really want to see them in a good bowl game again do you; aren't they going to just lose again after Tressel squares off against a team of equal talent...again?"

Each season is different. This is not the same team that lost 2 BCS championship games. It only takes one victory in a prime time bowl to change media/national perception. I hate Tressel's conservatism, too. But, if we finish strong this season and beat a quality bowl opponent -- OSU will be a preseason top 5 team with a chance to keep that momentum going against a heavily hyped Miami team. This time next year we will be talking about Heismann trophy's and BCS Championship game foes. No matter how good Kelly or Ferentz is -- they won't sniff that in either coach's lifetime. Not at Iowa or Cincinnati. You're right, this is OSU.

Rating recruits is such an inexact science. It is an opinion. So there is a lot of room for error. His recruits may have been a lot better than their so-called 3 star-rating. I do agree, however, that Ferentz and his staff are 5-star coaches.

Laurinitis was a 2 star recruit from outside the state and won the Lombardi twice. Tressel does the same thing folks.

OSU Wins Without Coaching wrote:

Whatever they said for Ferentz, doubly so for Brian Kelly of Cincy. I don't knock the OSU players, and the offensive line looked better than they have all season and gave Pryor time to think this time, in all I thought they played a very good game considering they were working with the Tressel offensive strategy and playcalling handicap. PSU came out flat, and they played most of the game flat. I hope no one believes that OSU has experienced a miracle and they've solved their offensive reputation that's been a problem for years in just one week.
Everyone's happy with OSU's win over PSU, so it's difficult to remember punting on PSU's 2x yard line instead of kicking a field goal and the fact that being conservative on that play got them exactly nothing (the ball came out to the 20 yard line anyway), slamming Saine into a brick wall a dozen times because PSU already knew what was coming, sometimes consecutively until PSU's defense was so tightly packed that they were bunched up and tripping over each other, running 195LB Herron until he's injured again while you have 2 freshmen, one weighing 230LBS and the closest thing to Beanie Wells they have spending the entire game on the bench.
That long pass from Pryor to Posey when he was in DOUBLE coverage, what it had been a pick instead? Still heroes? There's a reason they're continually being discounted in the polls, and why a lot of folks don't want to see them face a good opponent in a bowl game. "But... it's OSU, you don't really want to see them in a good bowl game again do you; aren't they going to just lose again after Tressel squares off against a team of equal talent...again?"

Good God... You think we had lost at PSU the way you are talking! Why do we even play the next two games? If we are lucky to win, we will have to play a good team in a bowl game... Oh no... We will have no chance at all! Why don't we just quit playing football at OSU? We have a bad coach, we play the wrong players, our offense is horrible, etc, etc.

Yet in the last 9 years you can count on one hand the teams that have accomplished what the Buckeyes have. I would list them, but it would be useless since your glass is always half empty.

GO BUCKS!!!!!

OSU Wins Without Coaching wrote:

... in all I thought they (OSU) played a very good game considering they were working with the Tressel offensive strategy and playcalling handicap.... I hope no one believes that OSU has experienced a miracle and they've solved their offensive reputation that's been a problem for years in just one week.
... That long pass from Pryor to Posey when he was in DOUBLE coverage, what it had been a pick instead? Still heroes? There's a reason ... why a lot of folks don't want to see them face a good opponent in a bowl game. "... it's OSU, you don't really want to see them ... lose again after Tressel squares off against a team of equal talent...?"

Gee, being from Westerville one might think because of geographical considerations that you would be an OSU supporter. But obviously you do not like the Buckeyes as a football team, their head coach, their QB, their game plans and are somewhat disturbed that they beat PSU with the possibility of being on their way to a BCS bowl game.

Your salient point about "what if" the Posey TD aginst Penn State had been an interception instead, is a brilliant observation! Why not take that line of questioning a bit further and ask; what if every game the Buckeyes have won this year had been a loss? I think I know the answer .... you would then be smugly self-righteous within your feelings of being superior to this team, its coach, their QB and all these other blind idiot Buckeye fans who seem to think the program at OSU is something extremely special!

OSU Wins Without Coaching wrote:

Whatever they said for Ferentz, doubly so for Brian Kelly of Cincy. I don't knock the OSU players, and the offensive line looked better than they have all season and gave Pryor time to think this time, in all I thought they played a very good game considering they were working with the Tressel offensive strategy and playcalling handicap. PSU came out flat, and they played most of the game flat. I hope no one believes that OSU has experienced a miracle and they've solved their offensive reputation that's been a problem for years in just one week.
Everyone's happy with OSU's win over PSU, so it's difficult to remember punting on PSU's 2x yard line instead of kicking a field goal and the fact that being conservative on that play got them exactly nothing (the ball came out to the 20 yard line anyway), slamming Saine into a brick wall a dozen times because PSU already knew what was coming, sometimes consecutively until PSU's defense was so tightly packed that they were bunched up and tripping over each other, running 195LB Herron until he's injured again while you have 2 freshmen, one weighing 230LBS and the closest thing to Beanie Wells they have spending the entire game on the bench.
That long pass from Pryor to Posey when he was in DOUBLE coverage, what it had been a pick instead? Still heroes? There's a reason they're continually being discounted in the polls, and why a lot of folks don't want to see them face a good opponent in a bowl game. "But... it's OSU, you don't really want to see them in a good bowl game again do you; aren't they going to just lose again after Tressel squares off against a team of equal talent...again?"

I guess that Tressel was right when he observed that some people tend to feel miserable under any circumstance. Too bad you missed enjoying a great Buckeye win.

cincybuckeye wrote:

Laurinitis was a 2 star recruit from outside the state and won the Lombardi twice. Tressel does the same thing folks.

No he doesn't. First of all, Tressel does very little with the defense. He doesn't recruit those players and he certainly doesn't play a role in developing them once they're here. Credit Heacock and Fickel with that. While it is true that Tressel will land a sleeper recruit, more often than not his recruiting classes are an embarassment of riches. Year after year he brings in remarkable talent.

And while it is not an exact science, coaching is the difference. Unfortunately Tressel does less with more. Year after year he brings in the top talent in the country and year after year the Buckeyes look fat, slow and stupid when they're facing another blue chip-laden squad.

Just A Fan wrote:

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I guess that Tressel was right when he observed that some people tend to feel miserable under any circumstance. Too bad you missed enjoying a great Buckeye win.

It was a good win over an vastly overrated Penn State team that padded its schedule with creampuffs. Ohio State is best described as inconsistent. We'll see how the Buckeyes finish the season. Even if they win the conference they still have to prove themselves in the Rose Bowl.

Ohio State has a long way to go to win back national respect and Tressel has a long way to go to prove to me he's not a pompous jerk who should be coaching Youngstown State.

Ken,

Iowa won 9 games in 2008 including a victory over
South Carolina in the January 1 Outback Bowl.

"Iowa dipped to 19-18 from 2005 to 2007, but won seven games last year and almost certainly is headed for another New Year's Day bowl this year."

You can win with modest recruits in the "WEAK 11", but that will not cut it in the SEC. OSU will win 34 to 14, over the Hawkeyes that copied the Steelers uniforms. GO GATORS!!!

I think what Ferentz has done at Iowa is great; Good for him, good for Iowa and good for the Big 10! Hopefully the remainder of the conference teams will keep improving...who wants to play a boring cream puff schedule year in and year out (see University of Texas)??

Steverino wrote:

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It was a good win over an vastly overrated Penn State team that padded its schedule with creampuffs. Ohio State is best described as inconsistent. We'll see how the Buckeyes finish the season. Even if they win the conference they still have to prove themselves in the Rose Bowl.
Ohio State has a long way to go to win back national respect and Tressel has a long way to go to prove to me he's not a pompous jerk who should be coaching Youngstown State.

Steverino,If you are not careful ,people will get the impression that you just do not like JT..And btw,since Jt recruites players like Lauranitis,but according to you,does not coach them and teach them,how is it that you give crdit to Kelly and Ferentz for the exact same thing...Steverino,if you wish to have credibility,you must be consistant.....Or is that trait only required of JT.

Ferentz does more with less (supposedly) than any other coach in the nation. But I think its funny people are still reporting Vandenberg is starting. Now that Iowa knows a week ahead of time that Stanzi is out, they’re working on the option with NcNutt who is by far a better QB than Vandenberg. It’s just too hard and a waste of time to have your best receiver also taking reps in practice as QB2 the whole season.

OSU Wins Without Coaching wrote:

Whatever they said for Ferentz, doubly so for Brian Kelly of Cincy. I don't knock the OSU players, and the offensive line looked better than they have all season and gave Pryor time to think this time, in all I thought they played a very good game considering they were working with the Tressel offensive strategy and playcalling handicap. PSU came out flat, and they played most of the game flat. I hope no one believes that OSU has experienced a miracle and they've solved their offensive reputation that's been a problem for years in just one week.
Everyone's happy with OSU's win over PSU, so it's difficult to remember punting on PSU's 2x yard line instead of kicking a field goal and the fact that being conservative on that play got them exactly nothing (the ball came out to the 20 yard line anyway), slamming Saine into a brick wall a dozen times because PSU already knew what was coming, sometimes consecutively until PSU's defense was so tightly packed that they were bunched up and tripping over each other, running 195LB Herron until he's injured again while you have 2 freshmen, one weighing 230LBS and the closest thing to Beanie Wells they have spending the entire game on the bench.
That long pass from Pryor to Posey when he was in DOUBLE coverage, what it had been a pick instead? Still heroes? There's a reason they're continually being discounted in the polls, and why a lot of folks don't want to see them face a good opponent in a bowl game. "But... it's OSU, you don't really want to see them in a good bowl game again do you; aren't they going to just lose again after Tressel squares off against a team of equal talent...again?"

Man that bothers me a lot. How the hell you bench Martin for a Banged up RB..the closes thing to beanie....i guess his TD and rushing yards in the Game he played was a FLUKE...I cannot wait till they play a real team...PSU was flat and i am glad OSU win...however, like u said...they did not solve anything offensively...cannot wait for Oregon to Kick our A$$...

T_Lag wrote:

Each season is different. This is not the same team that lost 2 BCS championship games. It only takes one victory in a prime time bowl to change media/national perception. I hate Tressel's conservatism, too. But, if we finish strong this season and beat a quality bowl opponent -- OSU will be a preseason top 5 team with a chance to keep that momentum going against a heavily hyped Miami team. This time next year we will be talking about Heismann trophy's and BCS Championship game foes. No matter how good Kelly or Ferentz is -- they won't sniff that in either coach's lifetime. Not at Iowa or Cincinnati. You're right, this is OSU.

Top 5 preseason? that dont mean anything....WIN a BCS game? Who will we beat when Tressel calling plays? Surely not Oregon...If Spitler is on the field when they spread us out..they will pick on him all day...Tressel Dumb a$$ wont bench him either...who will me beat? Heisman? are u on Crack? who on this team is a Heisman candidate? Plz do not say Pryor....We need him to develop and have him run great plays

Honestly Hawker, how can you as an Iowa fan go what if when your team has been behind in eight or nine of the games you've played, four in the fourth quarter. Had that been the bucks we would not be in the top 25.

jaxbuck wrote:

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Steverino,If you are not careful ,people will get the impression that you just do not like JT..And btw,since Jt recruites players like Lauranitis,but according to you,does not coach them and teach them,how is it that you give crdit to Kelly and Ferentz for the exact same thing...Steverino,if you wish to have credibility,you must be consistant.....Or is that trait only required of JT.

Tressel is responsible for the offense and the offense has consistently stunk. Check the numbers. The best year was 2006 and the numbers were still medicore. Normally Tressel's offense falls well outside the top 50 in the country.

Tressel continues to hire lousy assistants on the offensive side of the ball. Bollman is like saltpeter. He takes big, hulking studs and turns them into impotent little pansies. Siciliano shouldn't be coaching QBs at any level, but Tressel hired this snot-nosed chump because Tressel likes a good butt-smoocher.

It's not a matter of liking Tressel, the numbers don't lie. Tressel is an offensive coach and his offense is terrible.

That's why Ohio State gets worked by top-ranked competition. I don't mean overrated teams like Penn State, I'm talking about proven contenders. I look through the top 10 and I see 7 teams the Buckeyes wouldn't beat if you spotted them 10 points and never called them for holding.

Steverino wrote:

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It was a good win over an vastly overrated Penn State team that padded its schedule with creampuffs. Ohio State is best described as inconsistent. We'll see how the Buckeyes finish the season. Even if they win the conference they still have to prove themselves in the Rose Bowl.
Ohio State has a long way to go to win back national respect and Tressel has a long way to go to prove to me he's not a pompous jerk who should be coaching Youngstown State.

Good gracious just pick another team then if OSU doesn't make you happy! Maybe be a UC fan, seems they are a perfect team without any flaws. Maybe they will make you happy.

kenmore wrote:

Honestly Hawker, how can you as an Iowa fan go what if when your team has been behind in eight or nine of the games you've played, four in the fourth quarter. Had that been the bucks we would not be in the top 25.

If OSU were 9-0, they would be Ranked in the Top 3 despite how ugly some of their games may have been.