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madscot “Darwin died for your sins” Since: Aug 08 14,083 Nunya	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120266 Sep 4, 2012 Eagle12 wrote: <quoted text> If evolution is so powerful and all inspiring. How in the hell does a animal go 500 million years and not evolve? I have heard some of the lamest off the shelf answers about the horseshoe crab. The fact is there is no fossil record showing a gradual progressive lineage before 500 mya and after. It’s the nail in the coffin for evolution. It's all about the enviroment.
Givemeliberty Since: Mar 11 17,731 Louisville, KY	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120267 Sep 4, 2012 That reject probably thinks evolution is the name of the atheist god or something! Hahahaha Aura Mytha wrote: <quoted text> Dude, evolution isn't a deity it doesn't say anything , and you don't need to pray to it. It doesn't explain things like "hey evolution evolution on the wall how come dinosaurs grow so tall?" Try educating yourself it works better at answering those questions you are asking.
Givemeliberty Since: Mar 11 17,731 Louisville, KY	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120268 Sep 4, 2012 Bevause of it's environment being stable enough for it's current form? Just admit your religious beliefs are the only reason you won't accept evolution. Eagle12 wrote: <quoted text> If evolution is so powerful and all inspiring. How in the hell does a animal go 500 million years and not evolve?
madscot “Darwin died for your sins” Since: Aug 08 14,083 Nunya	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120269 Sep 4, 2012 Judged: 1 Eagle12 wrote: <quoted text> If evolution is so powerful and all inspiring. How in the hell does a animal go 500 million years and not evolve? I have heard some of the lamest off the shelf answers about the horseshoe crab. The fact is there is no fossil record showing a gradual progressive lineage before 500 mya and after. It’s the nail in the coffin for evolution. I guess I could dumb it down for you and say that horsehoe crabs have really, really good survival genes. Or you could just do a little studying of evolution. The only nail here is the one you shot into your brain in Three Stooges fashion.
madscot “Darwin died for your sins” Since: Aug 08 14,083 Nunya	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120270 Sep 4, 2012 Eagle12 wrote: <quoted text> If evolution is so powerful and all inspiring. How in the hell does a animal go 500 million years and not evolve? I have heard some of the lamest off the shelf answers about the horseshoe crab. The fact is there is no fossil record showing a gradual progressive lineage before 500 mya and after. It’s the nail in the coffin for evolution. The theory of evolution does not say that organisms must evolve morphologically. In fact, in an unchanging environment, stabilizing selection would tend to keep an organism largely unchanged. Many environments around today are not greatly different from environments of millions of years ago. http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB930.h...
Givemeliberty Since: Mar 11 17,731 Louisville, KY	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120271 Sep 5, 2012 Actually the horseshoe crab has evolved. Experts note changes in their exoskeleton and even structure. If we had a time machine went back hundreds of millions of years ago and collected a few horseshoe crabs and compared them side by side with today's an expert would notice several differences. But let's forget reality and pretend they are exactly the same. Why weren't humans around 500 million years ago? After all we are supposed to be God's finest creation yes?? So why wait so long for us to arrive? Just 6000 years ago lol! Why have all these beta versions of humans? I thought God was perfect? Eagle12 wrote: <quoted text> If evolution is so powerful and all inspiring. How in the hell does a animal go 500 million years and not evolve? I have heard some of the lamest off the shelf answers about the horseshoe crab. The fact is there is no fossil record showing a gradual progressive lineage before 500 mya and after. It’s the nail in the coffin for evolution.
scaritual “The eye has it...” Since: May 09 9,550 Russell's Teapot	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120272 Sep 5, 2012 Judged: 1 Eagle12 wrote: All the primates have human like characteristics that we see in them. But here again the same could be said about dogs. Evolution has some explaining to do. I just don’t buy into like many of you have. I want to see proof and the proof is pretty damn non existent. Look at the ant for example. It comes up on the fossil record at 50 mya. It just walks in the front door and says, here I am. Where is the slow and gradual change in the fossil record for the ant? I’m not talking about speculation or hunches. That’s the way it is for many animal fossils. It shows up in it’s full form millions of years ago and no record of a gradual change, none. So, are you asserting that your deity just popped in at random intervals, and for instance, inserted the Horseshoe crab 500 million years ago, dropped the Platypus in 100 million years ago, the Ant at 50 million years ago, etc...? Is that what you are suggesting? I'm asking because, you know, that doesn't seem to support the biblical account. Not in my estimation. I know you quite regularly tweak the bible all over the place and pretty much disregard portions that are very specific in wording with some pretty flimsy excuses to keep your faith, but where do you stop, Eagle?
scaritual “The eye has it...” Since: May 09 9,550 Russell's Teapot	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120273 Sep 5, 2012 Judged: 1 1 Givemeliberty wrote: Actually the horseshoe crab has evolved. Experts note changes in their exoskeleton and even structure. If we had a time machine went back hundreds of millions of years ago and collected a few horseshoe crabs and compared them side by side with today's an expert would notice several differences. But let's forget reality and pretend they are exactly the same. Why weren't humans around 500 million years ago? After all we are supposed to be God's finest creation yes?? So why wait so long for us to arrive? Just 6000 years ago lol! Why have all these beta versions of humans? I thought God was perfect? <quoted text> Right, the deity doesn't have a very good track record concerning creating things and them exhibiting, "perfection". You've got the Local Heaven 333 Angels Union strike/walkout. Followed by the subsequent firing/riots/war after negotiations failed. The leader of the strike sets up shop just across the heavens on the former employers new development. The Adam&Eve failed creation fiasco. An entire universe created just for Humans and A&E fnck up soon after the "Open For Business" sign is hung. The deity had to put a security guard at the entrance to the Eden just to keep the looters out and those people from Nod becoming squatters. The Flood "Wipe The Slate Clean" restoration failure. Noah is drunk on Mad Dog 20/20, and starts cursing his son, who was checking out his naked body or...?? We'll just leave it at that... "What happens on Mt. Ararat, stays on Mt. Ararat". Soon after that the Tower of Babel relocation/intervention - because the humans are now trying to climb to the border and become illegal immigrants in the heaven. The whole "Jesus Experience!" isn't looking too good. NT biblical forgeries, fabrications, not one of the 500 witnesses that were supposed to substantiate things never gave their names. Then the Jesus said; "I'll be back in a few decades, at least before some of you guys here right now, die. I PROMISE". Two thousand years later... Just what is "the heaven" gonna be like? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Uy30uQo4WGU/S7GpSLd...

It aint necessarily so “Life may be sweeter for this” Since: Nov 08 52,045 Fennario	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120274 Sep 5, 2012 Dave Nelson wrote: <quoted text> Descantos or descansos. Roadside memorials. I guess that I didn't remember or recognize the word when I looked for it. Thanks.
It aint necessarily so “Life may be sweeter for this” Since: Nov 08 52,045 Fennario	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120275 Sep 5, 2012 Judged: 2 1 1 Dave Nelson wrote: A nice young woman with Goth tendencies in the hot tub on a winter night would be nice Is "Goth tendencies" code for a vagina? I posted this last year on Prove There's A God, so you may have seen it there. It's from a scene in Woodie Allen's "Play It Agaim Sam." Max - Woody Allen's character - who is newly single, is at an art museum with his best friend's wife to meet and maybe pick up some women. They see a young Goth chick standing by herself gazing up at a huge abstract painting. Max decides to approach her with this ice breaker: MAX : It's a lovely Jackson Pollock. GOTH CHICK : Yes, it is. MAX : What does it say to you? GOTH CHICK : It restates the negativeness of the universe. The hideous, lonely emptiness of existence. Nothingness. The predicament of man forced to live in a barren, godless eternity like a tiny flame, flickering in an immense void, with nothing but waste, horror and degradation forming a useless straight-jacket in a black, absurd cosmos. MAX : What are you doing Saturday? GOTH CHICK : Committing suicide. MAX : What about Friday night?
Givemeliberty Since: Mar 11 17,731 Louisville, KY	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120276 Sep 5, 2012 Judged: 1 One thing we know about God and that's he loves him some naked men! And incest! Lot's daughters found favor in his eyes for their inbreeding three ways. If only Jephtha's daughter had put out to her daddy she would have been blessed instead of burnt alive! scaritual wrote: <quoted text> Right, the deity doesn't have a very good track record concerning creating things and them exhibiting, "perfection". You've got the Local Heaven 333 Angels Union strike/walkout. Followed by the subsequent firing/riots/war after negotiations failed. The leader of the strike sets up shop just across the heavens on the former employers new development. The Adam&Eve failed creation fiasco. An entire universe created just for Humans and A&E fnck up soon after the "Open For Business" sign is hung. The deity had to put a security guard at the entrance to the Eden just to keep the looters out and those people from Nod becoming squatters. The Flood "Wipe The Slate Clean" restoration failure. Noah is drunk on Mad Dog 20/20, and starts cursing his son, who was checking out his naked body or...?? We'll just leave it at that... "What happens on Mt. Ararat, stays on Mt. Ararat". Soon after that the Tower of Babel relocation/intervention - because the humans are now trying to climb to the border and become illegal immigrants in the heaven. The whole "Jesus Experience!" isn't looking too good. NT biblical forgeries, fabrications, not one of the 500 witnesses that were supposed to substantiate things never gave their names. Then the Jesus said; "I'll be back in a few decades, at least before some of you guys here right now, die. I PROMISE". Two thousand years later... Just what is "the heaven" gonna be like? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Uy30uQo4WGU/S7GpSLd...
TheBlackSheep “cdesign proponentsists” Since: Jul 09 11,156 Pittsburgh, PA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120277 Sep 5, 2012 Judged: 1 Eagle12 wrote: <quoted text> To be honest with you I have never spent any time admiring a man’s nipples. When I see another man at the lake of beach with his shirt off. I don’t say to my self,“he has a nice set of nipples.” What I’m trying to say it is a non issue to me. I don’t see them and I don’t think about them. Now when talking about a woman’s nipples. My we have something of great interest, lol. A woman wears nipples like a beautiful piece of art. Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_do_men_have_nip... During conception, each fertilized egg starts out with an X chromosome (from the mother) and an X or Y chromosome from the father, which determines their gender. XX will be a female, and XY will be a male. During fetal development, what started out as an undetermined gender gets developed during the fetal stage into a male or a female. Men have nipples because we all were conceived gender neutral. Somewhere during fetal development we develop into a female or a male. Why the long rant on the male nipple? The lady doth protest too much, methinks. One of the major problems with believers is, they do not question what the observe, read, or have been told. It makes being a believer so much easier. Why do you think we start out gender neutral? Is this a function that god created? Doesn't he know, long before we are born, what gender we are to be?
TheBlackSheep “cdesign proponentsists” Since: Jul 09 11,156 Pittsburgh, PA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120278 Sep 5, 2012 Givemeliberty wrote: One thing we know about God and that's he loves him some naked men! And incest! Lot's daughters found favor in his eyes for their inbreeding three ways. If only Jephtha's daughter had put out to her daddy she would have been blessed instead of burnt alive! <quoted text> Now see here! You are suppose to stop reading BEFORE you get to the part where the man gets drunk, two nights in a row, and screws his own daughters! NOTE: If you happen to read too far, you must blame the virgin daughters for raping their father, for a noble cause, of course! The father is completely righteous in the eyes of god! LOL!
-Skeptic- “Why do creationists lie?” Since: Jun 07 9,646 Location hidden	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120279 Sep 5, 2012 Judged: 1 Eagle12 wrote: <quoted text> I would say the horseshoe crab is scientific proof of a supreme designer. Speaking as scientist, I would say you are a class A idiot.
Double Fine “There's a feeling I get...” Since: Jun 11 22,478 ...when I look to the West	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120280 Sep 5, 2012 TheBlackSheep wrote: <quoted text> Now see here! You are suppose to stop reading BEFORE you get to the part where the man gets drunk, two nights in a row, and screws his own daughters! NOTE: If you happen to read too far, you must blame the virgin daughters for raping their father, for a noble cause, of course! The father is completely righteous in the eyes of god! LOL! I have pondered bringing out little biblical verse cards like these http://www.google.co.za/imgres... ...but with the less savoury verses of the Bible written on it - depicting bigotry, genocide, rape, murder and incest. Will probably not sell much... But the look on some pissed of Christian's faces...Priceless
Double Fine “There's a feeling I get...” Since: Jun 11 22,478 ...when I look to the West	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120281 Sep 5, 2012 Eagle12 wrote: <quoted text> I would say the horseshoe crab is scientific proof of a supreme designer. The oldest fossil of the animal is 500 mya. It hasn’t changed in that span of time. It doesn’t say much to the theory of evolution. Just about any animal points to a designer including all the birds, humming bird, the falcon. The ant can lift like 50 times it’s own weight. It would take a engineer to build something like that. As we have explained to you, evolution is not limited to biological change.
lightbeamrider Since: Jun 12 1,628 Location hidden	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120282 Sep 5, 2012 scaritual wrote: No, actually, some do not consider the Jesus on equal ground with the Yahweh. Then they are not Christian. They don't prescribe to the Triune doctrine implemented in 300-400CE. Then they are into heresy. There is Matthew 28. Father Son and Holy Spirit. There are others, too, that differ in other ways. I know your position on this. It's not worth the time or space to go into them. If they deny the essentials of the faith then they are not Christian but are considered cultic. There are non negotiables in the Christian faith.
KittenKoder “I Am No One Else” Since: Apr 12 19,252 Seattle	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120283 Sep 5, 2012 Dave Nelson wrote: <quoted text> Abiogenesis is a speculation. Even scientists in that field question, or deny it can happen. But somehow you manage to make religion anti-science because of course they will say things didn't pop out of nowhere, or just decided to do something without the ability to even conceive of doing something. Like assemble into a life form. Just like any real scientist will tell you. Has to do with causation and magic. You do videos. I assume you do some drawing also. Take a bunch of pixels. Stick them together one by one to make a Mickey Mouse. As you add those pixels, you are doing them on a projection of energy. Those projections end up on the screen you are viewing. Others can view it also if you supply a link to them. Animate Mickey. You have a virtual reality. You can even modify Mickey on the fly. Morph him to fit a particular situation. All under your control. You/we/us are a projection of energy. Welcome to abiogenesis. Thank the cartoonist for the show. Your religion has abiogenesis, abiogenesis had to happen in one way or the other. Scientists are just looking for how it can happen naturally since your "answer" is not helpful. Abiogenesis simply means life from non-living materials, in other words, how dust formed life. The "how" is what scientists are looking for, the "who" is not of any concern for them and the "when" is pretty much easy to see but still is not a concern of them. There is no one abiogenesis hypothesis, and the one most touted is just the one more supported by evidence and successful experimentation. Learn some science, okay, may make you look more intelligent. Also, I recommend you learn something about digital theory before you continue to make an utter fool on yourself. Images are not projections on the screen, what you are seeing is the visual interpretation of numerical values stored in the hardware. Information in computers is nothing but numbers, even images and audio data, just numbers. Digital theory has nothing to do with abiogenesis, abiogenesis is a chemistry concern. If you learned something about chemistry then you would understand it, like I do. The concepts are not similar enough to equate the processes in any way, chemistry is more like culinary arts than digital electronics. Again, learn some science.
lightbeamrider Since: Jun 12 1,628 Location hidden	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120284 Sep 5, 2012 It aint necessarily so wrote: "Actual Christianity"? Unbelievers are in a better position to tell you what that is. No. If you want a definition of a Republican , do not go to a Democrat. I have asked unbelievers to define Christianity according to their understanding. Their definition is warped and false. We see it. What you are imagining is not "actual Christianity". Here's some "actual Christianity." [1] http://wordsmith.org/words/images/apostrophe_... Agree. [2] http://pundit.blogpeoria.com/files/2012/03/go... Disagree. I forgot the rest.
TheBlackSheep “cdesign proponentsists” Since: Jul 09 11,156 Pittsburgh, PA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #120285 Sep 5, 2012 Double Fine wrote: <quoted text> I have pondered bringing out little biblical verse cards like these http://www.google.co.za/imgres... ...but with the less savoury verses of the Bible written on it - depicting bigotry, genocide, rape, murder and incest. Will probably not sell much... But the look on some pissed of Christian's faces...Priceless I've thought of that, too! The billboards that christians are crying about; why not use bible verses?
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