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Peter
New Bedford, MA
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Well I just wrote Miller Co. for the third time since Kurt Bush became thier representative. They said to give him a chance to mature. I feel he probably never will and we will have to endure his arrogance and agressiveness much longer if someone doesn't do something with him. I say boycott the product and let the company know why. Bush needs to go.
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Whoyakidding
Raleigh, NC
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People with his attitude and arrogance never change. It's going to be interesting to hear what Smoke has to say on his radio show.
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“Get 'em JGR!”
Since: May 07
AKA "Evan"
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He caused that wreck with tony, and putting the pit crew in danger is just not cool, he came flying up with a crew member next to the car, imagine if he had hit him! Kurt needs to cool it, tony could have given him more room, but thats not tonys style and thats not racing, they were going back and forth and kurt was crazy to try and move up like that, sucks that tony never gets along with the penske guys, think it has anything to do with his F1 days?
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Since: Dec 06
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Peter wrote: Well I just wrote Miller Co. for the third time since Kurt Bush became thier representative. They said to give him a chance to mature. I feel he probably never will and we will have to endure his arrogance and agressiveness much longer if someone doesn't do something with him. I say boycott the product and let the company know why. Bush needs to go. Did you write Home Depot ??? I think both of them was somewhat in this dog fight..Do we need to boycott home depot also ????
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Since: Dec 06
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Stroker Ace wrote: He caused that wreck with tony, and putting the pit crew in danger is just not cool, he came flying up with a crew member next to the car, imagine if he had hit him! Kurt needs to cool it, tony could have given him more room, but thats not tonys style and thats not racing, they were going back and forth and kurt was crazy to try and move up like that, sucks that tony never gets along with the penske guys, think it has anything to do with his F1 days? I did not know he was in F1 when was this??????
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Since: May 07
Spokane, WA
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Stroker Ace wrote: He caused that wreck with tony, and putting the pit crew in danger is just not cool, he came flying up with a crew member next to the car, imagine if he had hit him! Kurt needs to cool it, tony could have given him more room, but that's not tonys style and that's not racing, they were going back and forth and Kurt was crazy to try and move up like that, sucks that tony never gets along with the penske guys, think it has anything to do with his F1 days? I think hes going to be receiving that message real soon!!! I hope he gets s hefty fine and not just a warning and or probation. He needs to learn some tact and sportsmanship. Then he try's to soften the blow when he learns of France's death by saying he may have overshadowed it by his actions. Yeah ya think! Give me a break!!! Grow up Kurt. You're way outa line!!!!!!!!!
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Peter
New Bedford, MA
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snow wrote: <quoted text> Did you write Home Depot ??? I think both of them was somewhat in this dog fight..Do we need to boycott home depot also ???? If you go to Nascar site and watch the video... about 1/2 way through you will see that Tony moved up the track away from Bush, but Bush followed and drove Tony into the wall then Bush spun. The worst though is that Bush was speeding in the pits and drove right for a crew member. So even if you discount the incident on the track, there is no debating that. And for that alone, Bush should be suspended for the remainder of the season. Some could bring-up Kevin Harvick doing something similar at the end of a race a couple of years ago. But it wasn't the same. There wasn't anyone on foot and Kevin was punished greatly for that. A four race suspention if I remember, plus money and points. Bush is a menace on and off the track and is a poor representative for any company. Is Millers new slogan: drink Miller... be a menace. maybe: Bring out the Miller.... bring out the arrogance.
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Nas
Utica, MI
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Both can share the responsibility for what happened on the track. Kurt slid up to quick without making sure he had Tony cleared, while Tony at the point should have gave way a little and given him room. Tony will usually let most people in there in that situation, but I don't think he has much liking for Kurt. That being said, it's the incident on pit road that is reprehensible. To endanger 20 crew members the way Busch did is a completely belligerent act. Nascar should suspend him, dock points (more than were docked for a lot serious offenses this year) and fine him more than they did Waltrip and Eury. That kind of ignorance is completely uncalled. To endanger people's lives needlessly, is about as serious an offense as I can imagine. Those guys don't have the kind of protection a driver has. To not give a damn about their safety, just shows the kind of imbecile Kurt is. We all know how stiff penalties have been this year, now lets see just how consistent Nascar really is.
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Nas
Utica, MI
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Sorry! I got all hyped up typing that last post. Should say: a lot less serious offenses this year. Also, I didn't mention, but wanted to. I personally think a suspension for the rest of the year would be appropriate in this situation.
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“my ray of sunshine Michael”
Since: Feb 07
Kentucky/North Carolina
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Peter wrote: <quoted text> If you go to Nascar site and watch the video... about 1/2 way through you will see that Tony moved up the track away from Bush, but Bush followed and drove Tony into the wall then Bush spun. The worst though is that Bush was speeding in the pits and drove right for a crew member. So even if you discount the incident on the track, there is no debating that. And for that alone, Bush should be suspended for the remainder of the season. Some could bring-up Kevin Harvick doing something similar at the end of a race a couple of years ago. But it wasn't the same. There wasn't anyone on foot and Kevin was punished greatly for that. A four race suspention if I remember, plus money and points. Bush is a menace on and off the track and is a poor representative for any company. Is Millers new slogan: drink Miller... be a menace. maybe: Bring out the Miller.... bring out the arrogance. you cant only say that about kurt yes it was wrong and Im disappointed but Tony has done some things too on the track and off I dont agree with what he did but he did say he was wrong in doing it dw even said tony did something to busch a few laps b4 that happened and when kurt was going up to the wall tony hit him again and made him spin more they were both at fault more so kurt than tony though just my opinion.
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Peter
New Bedford, MA
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I certainly agree that the incident on pit road was or at least should be the determining factor. He should be suspended for the season for that one. That was WAY out of line. Not just merely bumping another car on pit road but a crew-member had to jump out of the way or would certainly have been hit. It just shows Kurts total disregard for anyone but himself. Also: concerning the track incident. Yes maybe Tony could have backed-off a bit. But he knew that another car was just behind and he doesn't HAVE to back-off. Usually a driver will back-off as a matter of respect. But who respects Bush? I don't thing anyone does. Even his own brother wrecked him. Darrel has said it a hundred times. "What Kurt and Kyle have to remember is, not to beat themselves...." It seems that almost every race they or at least one of them cause some kind of incident on the track.
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Peter
New Bedford, MA
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oh yes. for nascar12nc. watch the video on nascar site and you will see at about the half-way point that Tony had no-where to go to avoid Kurt hitting him. The only thing he might have been able to do is back-off. It isn't evident in most of the angles. But in that one it is clear. Kurt hits Tony. Tony hits the wall. Kurt spins-out. Three years ago when Dale Jr. spun someone because he came up too soon, the first thing he did was claim ownership for the incident. The second thing he did was appologize to the driver, the crew, and the owner. The third thing he did was appologize to the same in his camp. Respect! BUt again we can debate the on-track incident for the rest of time. The real problem is what happened on pit-road.
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Since: May 07
Spokane, WA
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Both may have been at fault in the wreck! Kurt was solely to blame for his uncouth behavior on pit row!! He knows it too! I betcha hes regretting his actions, now! To many have the act now think later mentality. It needs to change. Does someone have to get seriously injured before NASCAR takes action? I hope not!!! 10 minutes till Inside Nextel Cup, Lets see what Dave has to say, I always like hearing his comments!
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Peter
New Bedford, MA
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I like the way you think Tamara
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otw man
Anniston, AL
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snow wrote: <quoted text> Did you write Home Depot ??? I think both of them was somewhat in this dog fight..Do we need to boycott home depot also ???? If you think Stewart was at fault here, you have cognitive bias. Look at the frame vid. Should the #20 have given way? Look at what is on his rear bumper. To the right? He's already been driven into the wall. Like him or hate him, real race people know what they are looking at.
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“"Racing Rules"”
Since: Dec 06
NHRA
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Tamara24 wrote: Both may have been at fault in the wreck! Kurt was solely to blame for his uncouth behavior on pit row!! He knows it too! I betcha hes regretting his actions, now! To many have the act now think later mentality. It needs to change. Does someone have to get seriously injured before NASCAR takes action? I hope not!!! 10 minutes till Inside Nextel Cup, Lets see what Dave has to say, I always like hearing his comments! Well my friend,well said and i say...Penske will not be happy about this at all! Kurt hurt the whole team! This is not what Mr.Penske likes to see! Now the whole team will suffer because of it!
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“my ray of sunshine Michael”
Since: Feb 07
Kentucky/North Carolina
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Tamara24 wrote: Both may have been at fault in the wreck! Kurt was solely to blame for his uncouth behavior on pit row!! He knows it too! I betcha hes regretting his actions, now! To many have the act now think later mentality. It needs to change. Does someone have to get seriously injured before NASCAR takes action? I hope not!!! 10 minutes till Inside Nextel Cup, Lets see what Dave has to say, I always like hearing his comments! I agree I dont like it one bit what he did in the pit yes it was uncouth
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“my ray of sunshine Michael”
Since: Feb 07
Kentucky/North Carolina
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otw man wrote: <quoted text> If you think Stewart was at fault here, you have cognitive bias. Look at the frame vid. Should the #20 have given way? Look at what is on his rear bumper. To the right? He's already been driven into the wall. Like him or hate him, real race people know what they are looking at. Im just saying that they were both at fault Im talking about right after he was hit. I am a real race person. I said they both are at fault sorry that is how I seen it.after kurt hit the wall and tony went past him dw said that a couple of laps b4 that that kurt and tony were hitting each other. I know he was wrong in the pit and should have a fine
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“my ray of sunshine Michael”
Since: Feb 07
Kentucky/North Carolina
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Peter wrote: oh yes. for nascar12nc. watch the video on nascar site and you will see at about the half-way point that Tony had no-where to go to avoid Kurt hitting him. The only thing he might have been able to do is back-off. It isn't evident in most of the angles. But in that one it is clear. Kurt hits Tony. Tony hits the wall. Kurt spins-out. Three years ago when Dale Jr. spun someone because he came up too soon, the first thing he did was claim ownership for the incident. The second thing he did was appologize to the driver, the crew, and the owner. The third thing he did was appologize to the same in his camp. Respect! BUt again we can debate the on-track incident for the rest of time. The real problem is what happened on pit-road. I understand that Im talking about when they called the caution. no tony didnt have to back off and niether did kurt.sorry but I havent heard tony apoligize for some wrecks he has caused. and I said b4 it was absolutly wrong of kurt doing that in the pits Im not argueing that point
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“my ray of sunshine Michael”
Since: Feb 07
Kentucky/North Carolina
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mindy wrote: <quoted text>Well my friend,well said and i say...Penske will not be happy about this at all! Kurt hurt the whole team! This is not what Mr.Penske likes to see! Now the whole team will suffer because of it! you are right mindy there were other cars involved Im not saying it was all tony's fault it was a combination of things I said that a couple of laps b4 that they were beating and banging each other thats what DW said anyways Kurt was totally wrong in the pits
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