Another Bad Week, Another Bad Excuse

I didn't get to see the wreck.
If Jr blamed the track then yes it was an excuse.
The fact that Jr was running mid pack when this happened didn't help either.
I resent and so should the drivers this journalists remarks about running with trash though. That is uncalled for. These men make the grid they can race. It's wrong to label Stremme(sp) trash! Which is exactly what he did.

lilbit88 wrote:

I didn't get to see the wreck.
If Jr blamed the track then yes it was an excuse.
The fact that Jr was running mid pack when this happened didn't help either.
I resent and so should the drivers this journalists remarks about running with trash though. That is uncalled for. These men make the grid they can race. It's wrong to label Stremme(sp) trash! Which is exactly what he did.

I think that the guy calling midpack "trash" needs to get behind the wheel and see what he can do... and Jr had better think if those guys are trash too or are they guys whose car got tuned the wrong way last pit stop??? only one car can have clean air with the COT...

lilbit88 wrote:

I didn't get to see the wreck.
If Jr blamed the track then yes it was an excuse.
The fact that Jr was running mid pack when this happened didn't help either.
I resent and so should the drivers this journalists remarks about running with trash though. That is uncalled for. These men make the grid they can race. It's wrong to label Stremme(sp) trash! Which is exactly what he did.

I haven't read the article, but I think it was Kasey Kahne who caused the wreck. He went to bump draft Stremme and did it at the wrong time, according to the announcers. That's what brought on the 13-car pileup. Of course, Stremme would be blamed. He is not one of the top drivers.

Carolyn wrote:

<quoted text>I haven't read the article, but I think it was Kasey Kahne who caused the wreck. He went to bump draft Stremme and did it at the wrong time, according to the announcers. That's what brought on the 13-car pileup. Of course, Stremme would be blamed. He is not one of the top drivers.

Your correct Carolyn I was at the race and saw what happened.
He had moved up and was not in the back when it happened.

This articale states exactly what I've been saying allllllll along.

I don't agree with the term "trash", but Jr. was running exactly where his capabilities let him (mid pack).

Running up front for him is a result of equipment not talent.

snow wrote:

<quoted text>Your correct Carolyn I was at the race and saw what happened.
He had moved up and was not in the back when it happened.

What surprises me about Stremme is that he usually qualifies in a good spot, but something always seems to happen which causes him to wreck during the race. Seems bad luck follows some drivers. I'm hoping to see him finish at least in the top 10 someday. Poor guy.

I would say the writer is the "trash".

I just can't figure out what interviews/races these people watch. Jr never blamed anything on anyone. He got caught up in a wreck, hello!! so did 12 other cars, including JG.

He mention that the flooding had made the track rougher but never blamed it on that. That's not complaining that's just stating a fact. Anyone that lives in an area that has seen flooding knows that a road get torn up a bit when you have flooding. I've been on beautiful brand new paved roads that are smooth as silk then gets flooded out, it's completely pitted after that.

http://benchracing.onpitrow.com/nascar/dayton...

Just remember the track has about a 3 story banking so when the water is halfway up the wall there's a LOT of water at the bottom of the track.

Jim wrote:

This articale states exactly what I've been saying allllllll along.
I don't agree with the term "trash", but Jr. was running exactly where his capabilities let him (mid pack).
Running up front for him is a result of equipment not talent.

It's NASCAR not Knight Rider. The cars don't drive themselves. The car has to be good to get up front, but the driver also has to be good to drive it up there.

Carolyn wrote:

<quoted text>What surprises me about Stremme is that he usually qualifies in a good spot, but something always seems to happen which causes him to wreck during the race. Seems bad luck follows some drivers. I'm hoping to see him finish at least in the top 10 someday. Poor guy.

I told Roger he needs to put his Nationwide driver in that car and move him to sprint cup. Jr. had just moved to 13th when he got taken out...

AJlovesJR wrote:

<quoted text>It's NASCAR not Knight Rider. The cars don't drive themselves. The car has to be good to get up front, but the driver also has to be good to drive it up there.

What????? Then what the hell have I been watching???? No Knight Rider....dayum. lol

Jr got caught up in a wreck, big deal. Funny how some turn that around to him being a bad driver. I guess that makes Kyle one to seeing as he wrecked as well. It is restrictor plate racing, there is always a big wreck and good drivers get caught up in them.

AJlovesJR wrote:

<quoted text>It's NASCAR not Knight Rider. The cars don't drive themselves. The car has to be good to get up front, but the driver also has to be good to drive it up there.

If it's not equipment related then why move to HMS?

Why do drivers want to drive for the top teams?

Place a great driver in a great car you get great results.

Place a great driver in a mediocre car and you'll get average results.

Place a great driver in a terrible car and you'll get poor results.

So what does it say when you have the best equipment (great cars) and your results pale in comparison to other drivers who have the same equipment?

TS – 2 wins, 10 top fives, 14 top tens and 1 in points

JG – 1 wins, 9 top fives, 12 top tens and 2 in points

JJ – 2 wins, 8 top fives, 12 top tens and 3 in points

RN – 0 wins, 5 top fives, 8 top tens and 7 in points

MM – 3 wins, 4 top fives, 8 top tens and 13 in points

Now look at these dismal numbers

Jr.– 0 wins, 1 top fives, 3 top tens and 21 in points

So as for Knight Rider, maybe that’s something they should consider.

Someone else driving the car.

Jr is in Indianapolis today.
Him and Dan Wheldon the 2 National Guard drivers. Dan is taking Jr a ride in a IRL 2 seater car.
Jr will take some laps in one of the Historic
cars from Panther Racing. Its rained all morning
and slowed all the activities. Later today Dan will leave for his race in Canada this weekend.
Junie will be zipping back to chicago land.

Carolyn wrote:

<quoted text>What surprises me about Stremme is that he usually qualifies in a good spot, but something always seems to happen which causes him to wreck during the race. Seems bad luck follows some drivers. I'm hoping to see him finish at least in the top 10 someday. Poor guy.

Stremme is a jerk.

smokerocks wrote:

<quoted text>I think that the guy calling midpack "trash" needs to get behind the wheel and see what he can do... and Jr had better think if those guys are trash too or are they guys whose car got tuned the wrong way last pit stop??? only one car can have clean air with the COT...

I agree, that was so not cool!

Carolyn wrote:

<quoted text>I haven't read the article, but I think it was Kasey Kahne who caused the wreck. He went to bump draft Stremme and did it at the wrong time, according to the announcers. That's what brought on the 13-car pileup. Of course, Stremme would be blamed. He is not one of the top drivers.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I was out with the kids enjoying the fireworks and missed it. I guess I should have rewound it but they were not done and I didn't want to miss their fun.

snow wrote:

<quoted text>Your correct Carolyn I was at the race and saw what happened.
He had moved up and was not in the back when it happened.

Did he actually blame the track?
I can't see it but if he did that's a mistake on his part. He should have just left it alone since he's already taking so much flack from everyone. JMO
He's had such a hard year. Things haven't really gone his way in any race. It seems he makes strides and then is set back. Part of that lays with him, part with TEJ and Part with racing things on the track. I really hated see him and TEJ split up. Though I do believe in the long run it may prove to be a wise decision. I am sure he was really torn up about it though.

snow wrote:

Jr is in Indianapolis today.
Him and Dan Wheldon the 2 National Guard drivers. Dan is taking Jr a ride in a IRL 2 seater car.
Jr will take some laps in one of the Historic
cars from Panther Racing. Its rained all morning
and slowed all the activities. Later today Dan will leave for his race in Canada this weekend.
Junie will be zipping back to Chicago land.

Sounds cool! Hope he enjoys himself. He needs a little good stuff to break the litany of the bad happening on the track weekly.

Junior Nation wrote:

I would say the writer is the "trash".
I just can't figure out what interviews/races these people watch. Jr never blamed anything on anyone. He got caught up in a wreck, hello!! so did 12 other cars, including JG.
He mention that the flooding had made the track rougher but never blamed it on that. That's not complaining that's just stating a fact. Anyone that lives in an area that has seen flooding knows that a road get torn up a bit when you have flooding. I've been on beautiful brand new paved roads that are smooth as silk then gets flooded out, it's completely pitted after that.
http://benchracing.onpitrow.com/nascar/dayton...
Just remember the track has about a 3 story banking so when the water is halfway up the wall there's a LOT of water at the bottom of the track.

Thank you, as I hadn't seen the wreck or the interview I was kind of out in left field. lol
I to know the flooding causes major damage to the roads. Our roads around here sustain huge damage problems every year due to the rivers flooding. Two counties especially get the brunt of the rivers wrath.
We didn't need to sand bag this year but that doesn't mean the roadways weren't damaged.

lilbit88 wrote:

<quoted text>
Did he actually blame the track?
I can't see it but if he did that's a mistake on his part. He should have just left it alone since he's already taking so much flack from everyone. JMO
He's had such a hard year. Things haven't really gone his way in any race. It seems he makes strides and then is set back. Part of that lays with him, part with TEJ and Part with racing things on the track. I really hated see him and TEJ split up. Though I do believe in the long run it may prove to be a wise decision. I am sure he was really torn up about it though.

I don't know how those drivers can control their cars at the speeds they are going. The cars sure looked bouncey. Looked like they were racing on a washboard.

Carolyn, the track was terribly bouncy. I'm wondering if there was some kind of warping because of the flooding. I know where I live, in the sticks, when the roads flood here, they become nearly impossible to drive because the pavement warps and it's terribly bouncy. But other drivers were handling the bad track, so that's not an excuse.

But I will say, Jr is in a world of trouble. You really can't blame his pit crew because Tony has a new crew and they're able to get him out of the pits in first place all the time. I just think Jr is messed up in the head. He's lost his confidence. He has the same equipment as every other Hendrick driver, including the guys at Stewart Haas, so there's no excuse there.

I just think Jr can't drive the COT. Look at him in the Nationwide races---he does great. But for whatever reason, he can't handle the COT. What he needs is to take a lot of time and test at non-Nascar sanctioned tracks. He needs to put his butt in the racecar and just figure out what they can do to make the car driveable for him.