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Elvis Presley Eclipses Michael Jackson

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im sick of the over use of the word genius, non of the beatles were genius's at all. i play in an orchestra, i have studied works of the greatest genius's of all time. the beatles have had about 2 or 3 records that are musically amazing, 90% of all beatles music is the simplest stuff ever, with no real sophistication or skill taken to write them. sure its great and everything. when i say say amazing music, i dont mean fast or loud or whatever, amazing can be simple. but beatles records have the most basic of chord structures in most of them with very simple melodys that a high school kid could write, but if a high school kid sang it, they would be rejected, because the beatles had something no one else at that time did. they had nice records that people could relate to, likeable guys, great distinctive voices, and they were pushed up through a media worship and devted fan base, similar to MJ. but strip it all away and you have a catalogue that isnt really very genius at all, dare i say it. it takes a big man to challenge the beatles legacy, but im hearing more and more people say it, who are actually musicians. they turn round and say, whats so good about the beatles anyway? ive never got it, and people who didnt grow up with them, dont have all the memorys and the iconic stuff, they just have the music. Don't get me wrong its great music, but nearly all beatles records except maybe 2 are far from musical genius. remember a genius isnt just exceptionally talented, they are so talented its in comprehendable to the everyday man in the true definition of the word. off topic its the same with elvis, nearly all his records were twelve bar blues chord progressions exactly the same as the last with a different melody on top, far from genius.

as for michael, he comes very close, he is a pop music genius, his compositions for pop are perfection, absolute perfection, nobody will ever make better pop records. but i believe given training as a musician and playing an insrument properly and really dedicating to it, he could have wrote symphonies ect. which the beatles could never achieve in a million years. when you see these clips of him in the studio, his eyes, they are so alive, so eager, he had something inside him, so enthusiatic, he doesnt understand why people cant get so into music as he does. his enthusiasm shows huge talent in my eyes. the beatles have this whole aura of four mates in the studio who are guaranteed success with there next record. there is no eccentricitys about them. you can't get much more eccentric than michael and eccentric usually equates to genius in cases of people like michael. you could even debate michaels genius, because genius is such a supreme word, and it needs to not be used so lightly.

in terms of influence its much more even. this is where the beatles are huge and people often mistake this for genius. on a worldwide scale michael absolutly destroys the beatles. but in the US and the UK its much closer. but i will say this, everyday of my life, i hear the name michael jackson at least once somewhere in someones conversation. it was longer than i can remember since i heard someone mention the beatles.......... but MJ is still fairly fresh, thats all i can say on the matter

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im sick of the over use of the word genius, non of the beatles were genius's at all. i play in an orchestra, i have studied works of the greatest genius's of all time. the beatles have had about 2 or 3 records that are musically amazing, 90% of all beatles music is the simplest stuff ever, with no real sophistication or skill taken to write them. sure its great and everything. when i say say amazing music, i dont mean fast or loud or whatever, amazing can be simple. but beatles records have the most basic of chord structures in most of them with very simple melodys that a high school kid could write, but if a high school kid sang it, they would be rejected, because the beatles had something no one else at that time did. they had nice records that people could relate to, likeable guys, great distinctive voices, and they were pushed up through a media worship and devted fan base, similar to MJ. but strip it all away and you have a catalogue that isnt really very genius at all, dare i say it. it takes a big man to challenge the beatles legacy, but im hearing more and more people say it, who are actually musicians. they turn round and say, whats so good about the beatles anyway? ive never got it, and people who didnt grow up with them, dont have all the memorys and the iconic stuff, they just have the music. Don't get me wrong its great music, but nearly all beatles records except maybe 2 are far from musical genius. remember a genius isnt just exceptionally talented, they are so talented its in comprehendable to the everyday man in the true definition of the word. off topic its the same with elvis, nearly all his records were twelve bar blues chord progressions exactly the same as the last with a different melody on top, far from genius.
as for michael, he comes very close, he is a pop music genius, his compositions for pop are perfection, absolute perfection, nobody will ever make better pop records. but i believe given training as a musician and playing an insrument properly and really dedicating to it, he could have wrote symphonies ect. which the beatles could never achieve in a million years. when you see these clips of him in the studio, his eyes, they are so alive, so eager, he had something inside him, so enthusiatic, he doesnt understand why people cant get so into music as he does. his enthusiasm shows huge talent in my eyes. the beatles have this whole aura of four mates in the studio who are guaranteed success with there next record. there is no eccentricitys about them. you can't get much more eccentric than michael and eccentric usually equates to genius in cases of people like michael. you could even debate michaels genius, because genius is such a supreme word, and it needs to not be used so lightly.
in terms of influence its much more even. this is where the beatles are huge and people often mistake this for genius. on a worldwide scale michael absolutly destroys the beatles. but in the US and the UK its much closer. but i will say this, everyday of my life, i hear the name michael jackson at least once somewhere in someones conversation. it was longer than i can remember since i heard someone mention the beatles.......... but MJ is still fairly fresh, thats all i can say on the matter
Aren't you tired of lying kbflon?
stop writing trash,you're absolutly ridiculous!
you DARE writing such stupid things about a Band who wrote the greatest songs ever!!
you really need to be interned for a while

JOhn Lennon wrote Imagine which is considred the most philosophical and the most famous song ever!!

31 Jan 2008 For the first time ever, NASA beamed a song The Beatles' "Across the Universe" directly into deep space at 7 p.m
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There's mention of Michael Jackson in a lot of
conversations, KB. Does that really mean that
everything said about Michael is good? Of course
not. Beatle fans are not going to put MJ over their
idols nor can you expect Elvis fans to do the same.
It's never going to happen. Beatle fans are going
to stay Beatle fans and Elvis fans are going to
stay Elvis fans. That's way there are thousands of
different artists to choose from. You have to know
that Elvis was the best or you you wouldn't be
over at the Elvis forum picking fights with Elvis
fans. You CAN be both, you know. You CAN like Elvis
and Michael too. Nothing wrong with that. MJ isn't
going to be betrayed by you for it.
RBG

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*that's why*
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Nov 13, 2009
 
There is noone comes close to Elvis.Elvis Rules!!
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Imagine by Lennon....Poorly written elevator music.
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RBG wrote:
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You don't have to stay mad at me, Zepforever. I'm a Zeppelin fan.
Of course, I'm going to tell it like it is when it comes to Paul
Mc Cartney. His solo career was a mess because of the dross he
put out. Led Zeppelin was a lot better. You can't say that Paul
did better with Wings or solo then any of The Beatles work because
none of them matched what they had together. John ruined his work
mainly because he gave Yoko half of his albums. Elvis never had
that problem in the 1970's. He didn't have to follow what everybody
else was doing. That's why it holds up so well.
C'mon Zepforever. I'm going to always put Elvis over The Beatles.

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Ace wrote:
Imagine by Lennon....Poorly written elevator music.
It wasn't one my favorites either, but the writing was actually pretty good. By that time, he'd ruined his voice with cigs and abuse.
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An NFL Fan wrote:
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It wasn't one my favorites either, but the writing was actually pretty good. By that time, he'd ruined his voice with cigs and abuse.
At least, Yoko wasn't "singing" on it. Lol.
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Wasnt Elvis at his peak during Jim Crow. Lets go ask some people under 50 who was better and it wont be Elvis.
Don't look now but your ignorance is showing. Elvis rules, There are many young people who are big time Elvis fans.Countless young people visit Graceland,and buy Elvis music.

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KB50MJ wrote:
im sick of the over use of the word genius,
So stop using it in the sentence, "Michael Jackson was a genius" then.

And we're all sick of YOU, floon loser pedo lover.

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And now KB floon LIAR has added "playing in an orchestra" to his resume.

Black ... yeah right.

A lawyer ... BS.

In an orchestra ... what, as their water boy?

Stop the lies, Kurt. You're just embarrassing yourself.

Then again, being a Pedo Pan fan is enough embarrassment!

Arsehole.

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KB50MJ wrote:
im sick of the over use of the word genius, non of the beatles
What?

Hi my little co-editor! How's tricks? We haven't seen your smiley demented face over on the Michael Jackson forum forever and ever. How come? Was it something I said? I'm sorry. I'll be good. Come back and post stuff, Kurt. I know you're very busy impersonating a lawyer with the Boston Pops and all but, heck, if you can write rambles like the one I just snipped to shite, you can post a few Michael Jackson articles for us to tear apart. Come on. Come back to the dark sid... er... whitish gray side...

Love,
Dark_Island
Co-editor of the Michael Jackson forum
and your biggest fan

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I wonder why the little turd doesn;t post over on the Jacko forum any more?

Perhaps Dark Island and the rest of the fans know what he is like.

Why does the little bastard waste our time here??!!
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Observer Rules wrote:
I wonder why the little turd doesn;t post over on the Jacko forum any more?
Perhaps Dark Island and the rest of the fans know what he is like.
Why does the little bastard waste our time here??!!
Time is all the social misfit has. He is never in school, never working and lies all the f'n time. Fact: He's an obese high school drop out. Even on the MJ forum they had enough of him. He's clearly a very sick person. Love the new lie he is in an orchastra.

Floons like that batshit one never leaves the net. They live in their own delusional world. Good his nic and you'll see where he is day after day. Mostly game sites or asking for hair advice.
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My, my, what have we here? Why would this freak ask about Romanian newspaper via twitter? I'm seeing a pattern here.

KB50MJ: Where's that Romanian newspaper?

goodpersonkarma who is obsessed with the music and numbers from MJ.

Bingo!
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ROTFLMAO

online polls from floon sites don't count dufas kb.

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread....

WTH, watch him freaking out. I'm seeing a pattern. I believe KB is Henry/Henry Lee, our resident sleepless schizo who lies like a filthy rug with each nic.
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Elvis was the finest entertainer in a very long while.Those who are Elvis Fans are not much interested in all the others mentioned here.Stories about Elvis,even Elvis trivia would be much preferred to anything about mj or beatles fanatics.Please let's keep this an Evis forum. Elvis fans want to hear about Elvis. ELVIS RULES!!
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floonswerescammed wrote:
ROTFLMAO
online polls from floon sites don't count dufas kb.
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread....
WTH, watch him freaking out. I'm seeing a pattern. I believe KB is Henry/Henry Lee, our resident sleepless schizo who lies like a filthy rug with each nic.
Did you look at page 2, post 24 ?

I guess stealing others post and take credit for them is KB50MJ style, cut and paste you're way out that one KB50MJ.
Look at post 7296 in this thread, I say they are idenitical.
Does MJultimatemusiclegen, knows you steling his postings?
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sven wrote:
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Did you look at page 2, post 24 ?
I guess stealing others post and take credit for them is KB50MJ style, cut and paste you're way out that one KB50MJ.
Look at post 7296 in this thread, I say they are idenitical.
Does MJultimatemusiclegen, knows you steling his postings?
Wow, he did copy. What a loser. He sinks lower every freak'n day. He is not allowed to steal from others. Look how poorly written that was too. Why would you want to?

Thanks for pointing that out sven. Might have to out this luntic once and for all.
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