Catholic Schools Bid For State Aid

If this statement by Andrew Fleishmen is true then I know why we have 30 billion in unfunded liabilities and the higest debt per capita in the nation. I can assure you that if at a non public school enrollment is down that costs are reduced. The taxpayer will benefit by encouraging schools that into cost management instead of this lazy passive attitude that Fleishman admits he has.

"It's not clear that children opting out of the public schools actually save the state much money because for years now we've had school systems that have had a drop in their student census numbers and we have not reduced their educational funding in any way," Fleischmann said. "So while the argument sounds compelling on its face, I'm not sure it holds true here in Connecticut."

Any form of funding for religious education opens a door that the founders of this country rightfully closed. Just because the President runs rampant over the Constitution every chance they get (pronoun intentional), doesn't mean the rest of us should.

church and state should remain separate, including the schools.

What next? Tapayers' money for madrassas?

ROFL - These parents get double billed by the Govt anyway.

My Idea is that Parents that want to get their kids out of public Govt re-education centers and put them into a morally correct school then give them tax breaks! Stop fleecing parents thet want to be parents and get their kids a education that they see fit.

BTW Im not a church goer but I think parents should have a choice.

Get Real wrote:

church and state should remain separate, including the schools.

But should the parents pay school tax for a school their kids dont attend?

I'm not Catholic and I hate the Pope and the Catholic church. if I wanted my money to go to the Catholic church I'd send it myself. Maybe if the catholics stopped aiding and abetting child rapists, they would have more money for there own schools.

oops, "their" instead of "there" above. Why no money for Hare Krishna, Islamic and Scientology schools?

The Catholic schools are so much better than the public schools that they are an embarrassment to the public officials and school boards.

You never see the problems in these schools that you see in the public schools and all of the related court cases.

In every area, scholastic, graduation rate, behavior, attendance, etc. just about every Catholic school outshines every public school.

The pols. say they do not want to give money they do not have oversight of. WELL, they have not done a very good job at all of anything in the public education system except line their pockets and waste billions of dollars.

Note this well, no Cathloic schools get 'unaccredited status' like in Hartford, Bridgeport, New Haven, etc. No Cathloic schools are in the courts year after about student populations and who should go where, but THEY have every kind of kid immaginable in their classrooms and they all do just fine and get good educations. How come? Why? We all know, no crap allowed, and all are demanded 'to do the work.'

The Courant should do a story about where all the pols and a lot of the teachers send THEIR kids to school.

GIVE THE CATHOLIC SCHOOLS EQUAL PUBLIC FUNDING FOR EVERY KID THEY TAKE, KEEP THE POLS AND THE PUBLIC SCHOOL BOARDS FAR, FAR AWAY BECAUSE THE FACT IS THEY DO A MUCH, MUCH BETTER JOB, AND ALL OF THE FACTS BEAR THIS OUT YEAR AFTER YEAR.

This is what the pols are really afraid of, that you will find this out and their pocket lining days will be over. Keeping up the obfuscation is their number one job, any obstacle they can dream up or create.

Thank God for the wonderful job the Catholic schools do in the face of tremendous odds.

ftec wrote:

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But should the parents pay school tax for a school their kids dont attend?

They made the choice to go to a private school knowing full well that their taxes support the public schools in their town. Whether or not they get involved and attend them is up to them.
Unless they want to start their own little town and secede from the state.
Let the Catholic schools go to Rome and ask for the money. Have the sell off some of their gold.

constitution reads seperation of church & state, not seperation of school & church.

Everyone should get school vouchers to cover the cost of basic education minus all the frills and pay themselves for any spending above basic reading,writing,math,science type classes, they want their kid to take swimming, good they can pay for it along with wood shop and any other non-academic program going. Let them take out student loans if they think their child needs art or music class so bad or pay for it themselves and to collect the loans their childs income once they enter the work force or get married will be taxed an extra say by 10 or 15% until their loan is paid off.

People are forced to send their kids to private schools if they want them to get an education.

art wrote:

If this statement by Andrew Fleishmen is true then I know why we have 30 billion in unfunded liabilities and the higest debt per capita in the nation. I can assure you that if at a non public school enrollment is down that costs are reduced. The taxpayer will benefit by encouraging schools that into cost management instead of this lazy passive attitude that Fleishman admits he has.

Agreed. When student enrollment is increased slightly, it is a justification to increase the public school budgets beyond inflation. When public school enrollments decrease, it doesn't curb the spending growth at all.

Let the catholic schools raise the tuition to equal the true cost better yet get a subsidy from rome.

DTC wrote:

Let the catholic schools raise the tuition to equal the true cost better yet get a subsidy from rome.

Yes!

ftec wrote:

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But should the parents pay school tax for a school their kids dont attend?

The same reason a senior citizen has to pay taxes even when they don't have kids attending schools. Taxes not only go to schools, but other things in town. If a parent that sends their kid to a catholic school does not have to pay taxes then they should also not get their garbage taken on trash day, the plows and leaf trucks do not have to go to their house, etc.

Here we go again. Lat's have the taxpayers pay fort he poor people to go to Catholic schools. what about the parent that pay thousands in tuition? Gie them the break. Forget about the poor going to Catholic schools. If they want it then do like everbody else and pay for it.

mom wrote:

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The same reason a senior citizen has to pay taxes even when they don't have kids attending schools. Taxes not only go to schools, but other things in town. If a parent that sends their kid to a catholic school does not have to pay taxes then they should also not get their garbage taken on trash day, the plows and leaf trucks do not have to go to their house, etc.

bingo

ahmed wrote:

What next? Tapayers' money for madrassas?

Actually a great idea

If the voucher system was used, the tax money paid for schools could be used by the parents for any school, it would of course reduce the public education system which would really tick off the unions but be a greast way to curb the run away waste.

The voucher system would solve this mess. Schools should compete for students like any other business. Poor children should not be forced to attend failing public schools just to apease the teachers union and the PTA (which is an arm of the teachers union). In most towns it costs upwards of $ 7,500 to educate a child, catholic schools educate for less. If parents were giveb vouchers for $ 4,000 to go to the school of their choice the town saves $ 3,500 and the parent gains control of their childs education.