Obama Seeks To Gain Support Among Military Voters

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uIdiotRAcesMAkeWorldPeace wrote:

Those in power are using most of the, poor and stupid Soldier' Boys/girls as pawns, cannon fodder. morons in a geopolitical chessboard... agenda for their war/oil-for-profiteering enterprises; the US oil/USD hegemony, so to fill their affluent money coffers.

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PlacitasRoy wrote:

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You failed to answer the question re: "US War Veterans Tossing Medals Back at NATO Was Heroic Act." How was that heroic?

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Mr Logic in Jax wrote:

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Which would you rather have Freedom or Peace?

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The Mad Man wrote:

Can we actually live through another 4 years of what we have gone through already. Unemployment, poor housing market, jobs market in severe decline, returning vets who want their claims processed and only hit the wall? How does the returning veteran 'adjust' to the already dis-functioning society that has been created by more liberalism? How do we put pride in a flag that is already badly tarnished? Created by congress and the presidents 'rule'!

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America Is Not The Same wrote:

Odumbo cut military spending
Military coming home with no jobs
Military not getting medical care because of cuts to VA hospitals and services
If it wasn't for the private donations by the Wounded Warrior Project our fighting disabled and their families would have no support to live a better way of life.
Odumbo want more cuts then he needs to pull all troops out of the middle east now.

Mr Logic in Jax wrote:

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No “war” is heroic however; war is inevitable in almost every case. The people who volunteer or are forced to are the ones who are heroic and perform heroic acts. Tell the 65 year old man who has had the privilege to have and raise children and now spends to with grandchildren that the guy who saved his life was no hero. Self-sacrifice for a friend or even a stranger when the outcome is unclear and any reward is doubtful, that is when we see Heroic acts.

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Black Rhino wrote:

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If you are blaming Obama for your current situation, then youre an idiot.
Bush's 8 years have not been cleaned up yet.

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uIdiotRacesMAkeWorldPeace wrote:

"I spent 33 years in the Marines, most of my time being a high-class muscle man for big business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for Capitalism... The general public shoulders the bill. This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones, Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations."
Brigadier General Smedley D. Butler
NOTE he not against Capitalism but Predatory Capitalism/Corporatism and what it can do to US and world Human race!

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FLBeaver wrote:

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During his 34-year career as a Marine, Smedley participated in military actions in the Philippines, China, in Central America and the Caribbean during the Banana Wars, and France in World War I. He was born in 1881 and died in 1940.
Your quote is out of context.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler#P...
You are both ignorant because you just grab quotes without understanding them and stupid because you have can't put his quote in the context of his times and then reference it to our times.
One last point going to your quote:
"In November 1934, Butler told the committee that a group of businessmen, saying they were backed by a private army of 500,000 ex-soldiers and others, intended to establish a fascist dictatorship. Butler had been asked to lead it, he said, by Gerald P. MacGuire, a bond salesman with Grayson M–P Murphy & Co. The New York Times reported that Butler had told friends that General Hugh S. Johnson, a former official with the National Recovery Administration, was to be installed as dictator. Butler said MacGuire had told him the attempted coup was backed by three million dollars, and that the 500,000 men were probably to be assembled in Washington, D.C. the following year. All the parties alleged to be involved, including Johnson, said there was no truth in the story, calling it a joke and a fantasy.
In its report, the committee stated that it was unable to confirm Butler's statements other than the proposal from MacGuire, which it considered more or less confirmed by MacGuire's European reports.[58] No prosecutions or further investigations followed, and historians have questioned whether or not a coup was actually close to execution, although most agree that some sort of "wild scheme" was contemplated and discussed"

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uIdiotRacesMAkeWorldPeace wrote:

"I spent 33 years in the Marines, most of my time being a high-class muscle man for big business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for Capitalism... The general public shoulders the bill. This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones, Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations."
Brigadier General Smedley D. Butler
NOTE he not against Capitalism but Predatory Capitalism/Corporatism and what it can do to US and world Human race!

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PlacitasRoy wrote:

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Out of context my ass. even your Wikipedia link didn't make that assertion. Corporate media covered up for the fascist element in the 30's and they covered up for Dubya has he lied the country into the illegal and immoral war.
And anyone who believe wiki for anything but limited verifiable facts is a fool.(How Right-Wingers Took Over Wikipedia http://www.beggarscanbechoosers.com/2012/05/h... )
Excellent article about how distressing (and eerily familiar to the our present situation) was not just the failure of the press of that era to cover the story, but the active role they played in covering it up, even to the extent of scrubbing internal archives! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/02/27/9558...

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thamanjimmy wrote:

Bring the troops home - simple.

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FLBeaver wrote:

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Yes, it is your ass which like most liberals, you have two of.
The media didn't cover up any of the fascist elements during the 30's. If you had graduated from HS you'd know that the press was very much pro-Hitler when he came to powers. In fact it was FDR (Liberal & Obama hero) who covered up the concentration camps until the end of the war when there was no choice.
Bush didn't lie to the American public unless you believe that the following people were in on it since these were the members of the Senate Committee of Intelligence: Democrats Bob Graham, Carl Levin, John D. Rockefeller IV, Dianne Feinstein, Ron Wyden,Richard Durbin, Evan Bayh, John Edwards, Barbara A. Mikulski. And the votes for funding the war were bi-partisan (both sides voted to go to war and to fund it).
You mentioned problems with Wikipedia. Apparently you never read your link because it says "If you're looking to read up on millions of disparate topics, from aardvarks to Frank Zappa, Wikipedia can offer you an enormous amount of helpful info that is reasonably free of bias.
But there's one big exception: articles on current political figures and topics." Only you would consider the early 1900's and President McKinley through FDR to be "current political figures."
Last point, posting something from The Daily Kos is equivalent to posting something about the glories of the USSR from Pravda in the '50s. A reference you probably don't get but it simply means you need to provide a better source.
You should just keep posting on Kos. That way you and your friends can give each other a warm fuzzy feeling and you don't have to come out and talk with the adults.