Residents complain about Holloman sonic booms

tell the truth wrote:

<quoted text>Keep enjoying them, we'll see how long it takes for your ears to be damaged or your heart to get scar tissue around it, or your digestive system to be compromised, or the pressure in the cranium to become dangerous, etc., etc.,

I love them, and only wished they would go on every hour of every day, every week, every month, and every year...

Show me a credible link that shows these claims you typed above....

You would never be able to make such claims in any other nation on this planet, be thankful you live in a society that allows you such freedom, and lets not forget where that freedom keeps coming from...Those who serve...

Lack of oxygen in raptor causes crashes
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/exclusive-22-ra...
Those willing to speak up and refusing to fly them are being told to shut up or you'll be out.
http://news.yahoo.com/fighter-pilots-claim-in...

That is a mighty expensive hunk of metal to keep grounded, but the issue must be addressed for the safety of pilots and civilians living under flight paths.

My dog was shaking and looking out the window tonight, he does not like the thunder and lighting from the rain we got tonight, He does not do that for the sonic booms.

Animals are smarter than us in this subject.

Or if you look at it from another point of view. They could be telling these pilots hey you are payed to fly, you are assignsed to this weapons system so do the job your paid to do or we will kick you out.

The military kind of frowns on it when you refuse to do your job. Just saying.

ineedair wrote:

Lack of oxygen in raptor causes crashes
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/exclusive-22-ra...
Those willing to speak up and refusing to fly them are being told to shut up or you'll be out.
http://news.yahoo.com/fighter-pilots-claim-in...
That is a mighty expensive hunk of metal to keep grounded, but the issue must be addressed for the safety of pilots and civilians living under flight paths.

The AF doesn't like negative publicity nor do the contractor and others involved with the F-22 and it's problems that are being aired regularly now in national media. There are real problems that have been known by those in various positions for years according to news reports, yet these pilots speaking out and even the the family of the deceased pilot that has filed a lawsuit in the case are seen as problematic. The same goes for citizens who are under the airspace of the F-22 and other modified aircraft in NM who are negatively affected by sonic booms and other factors from these aircraft. Yet there are those who come against them when they have spoken up. It has been the norm on these topix sections. There are those who don't like the truth being told. The F-22 with it's problems has no business over tens of thousands of people. Even without current issues being revealed in media, the F-22 should have never been allowed in taken airspace over NM citizens sonic booming, focus booming, and throwing out chaff and flares over NM land, and more. The F-22 needs to be grounded until they can figure it all out.

You know nothing yet you think you do. I thin you are secretly a military groupie that wished he/she was in the know but in the end you know nothing.

Tell the Truth wrote:

The AF doesn't like negative publicity nor do the contractor and others involved with the F-22 and it's problems that are being aired regularly now in national media. There are real problems that have been known by those in various positions for years according to news reports, yet these pilots speaking out and even the the family of the deceased pilot that has filed a lawsuit in the case are seen as problematic. The same goes for citizens who are under the airspace of the F-22 and other modified aircraft in NM who are negatively affected by sonic booms and other factors from these aircraft. Yet there are those who come against them when they have spoken up. It has been the norm on these topix sections. There are those who don't like the truth being told. The F-22 with it's problems has no business over tens of thousands of people. Even without current issues being revealed in media, the F-22 should have never been allowed in taken airspace over NM citizens sonic booming, focus booming, and throwing out chaff and flares over NM land, and more. The F-22 needs to be grounded until they can figure it all out.

Land Locked Sailor wrote:

My dog was shaking and looking out the window tonight, he does not like the thunder and lighting from the rain we got tonight, He does not do that for the sonic booms.
Animals are smarter than us in this subject.

We haven't had thunderstorms for how long? Months and months to possibly over a year. He's just not used to them. If he didn't hear jet sonic booms for that long and then all of a sudden...BOOM!!!!!, he's be freaking out for sure, no doubt. The sound that comes from these rainstorms that we have had recently do not even compare to the jarring, out-of-the-blue, explosive sound of a jet-induced sonic boom. Try selling your ideas elsewhere.

alamo_airforce wrote:

Or if you look at it from another point of view. They could be telling these pilots hey you are payed to fly, you are assignsed to this weapons system so do the job your paid to do or we will kick you out.
The military kind of frowns on it when you refuse to do your job. Just saying.
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I think it's so funny that at one point you're so gung ho on supporting our "guys in the military", and then on the other hand you're trash talking them. You're a sheep and you want everyone in the military to be just as sheepish as you and not question anything that the military says. Just like a Democrat.

alamo_airforce wrote:

You know nothing yet you think you do. I thin you are secretly a military groupie that wished he/she was in the know but in the end you know nothing.
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You would fit very well into the type of society that George Orwell wrote about in "1984". Now remember, whatever you do, DON'T question BIG BROTHER. Believe everything he tells you, even if it means flying an unsafe jet. And another whatever you do, DON'T complain to the media. DON'T complain at all. BIG BROTHER is your conscience. You don't need to have one of your own. Yep, fits you to a T.

So What wrote:

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We haven't had thunderstorms for how long? Months and months to possibly over a year. He's just not used to them. If he didn't hear jet sonic booms for that long and then all of a sudden...BOOM!!!!!, he's be freaking out for sure, no doubt. The sound that comes from these rainstorms that we have had recently do not even compare to the jarring, out-of-the-blue, explosive sound of a jet-induced sonic boom. Try selling your ideas elsewhere.

My dog has never like rain storms, ever since he was a puppy he has done the same thing, he shaken and looks at the window for the flash of lightning and then the noise. He goes find a dark corner and waits for it to be all over, and we haved lived in a few places in his long life, and these other places had tons of more rain and lots of rain storms.

Tell the Truth wrote:

The AF doesn't like negative publicity nor do the contractor and others involved with the F-22 and it's problems that are being aired regularly now in national media. There are real problems that have been known by those in various positions for years according to news reports, yet these pilots speaking out and even the the family of the deceased pilot that has filed a lawsuit in the case are seen as problematic. The same goes for citizens who are under the airspace of the F-22 and other modified aircraft in NM who are negatively affected by sonic booms and other factors from these aircraft. Yet there are those who come against them when they have spoken up. It has been the norm on these topix sections. There are those who don't like the truth being told. The F-22 with it's problems has no business over tens of thousands of people. Even without current issues being revealed in media, the F-22 should have never been allowed in taken airspace over NM citizens sonic booming, focus booming, and throwing out chaff and flares over NM land, and more. The F-22 needs to be grounded until they can figure it all out.

Name 1 person or company that like negative publicity???

Besides the pilot air supply issue, what are the other issues with the F-22???

Are you not affected by all aircraft flying in NM, they all have the potential to fall on your area of NM.

What other aircraft does booms here?

What modified aircraft are you talking about??

Besides the booms, what other factors are there??

Focus booming, explain that?

Chaff and flares have been throw out over public land??

We are still waiting for all of those previous claims you and your typr have made, where are the links showing the proof to your ongoing encloypedia of claims against the F-22.

Good try with your troll postings. Yet you are as wrong as the person i was replying to. When you have a job to do in the military you are expected to do it. If you have an issue with the way something is done there are proper channels you are supposed to follow. It is called a chain of command.

If the chain does not work there are still other proper channels you follow Wing safety would be one the Inspector General would be another (IG). Running to the media and crying about not wanting to do the job your being paid to do is not a proper channel.

Thanks for the comment though you are yet another person who thinks they know what is going on when in reality you know nothing. They have performed exaustive investigations into this they have also taken steps which i cannot talk about to ensure pilot safety and have also performed a redesign in the cockpit to make things safer for the pilot as well. Other things have been done by the military as well bu you know what it is none of your business what they are.

Learn how the military works and know what is going on before you decide to interject your unknowing and unintelligent coments on this topic.

alamo_airfarce wrote:

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You would fit very well into the type of society that George Orwell wrote about in "1984". Now remember, whatever you do, DON'T question BIG BROTHER. Believe everything he tells you, even if it means flying an unsafe jet. And another whatever you do, DON'T complain to the media. DON'T complain at all. BIG BROTHER is your conscience. You don't need to have one of your own. Yep, fits you to a T.

Alamo Air Force and Land Locked Sailer rise up against those who would have a differing view then them and they do act like they know everythng while claiming others don't. The public can say their view and you nor anyone else are in a position to tell them otherwise. No one appointed you dictator. You do plenty of googling to post some of what you do on different topix sites, with that in mind, by now, you know that you continue to attempt to often mislead others by coming against those that post truth on issues known many. You're doing a poor PR job for whoever you represent.

Tell the Truth wrote:

Alamo Air Force and Land Locked Sailer rise up against those who would have a differing view then them and they do act like they know everythng while claiming others don't. The public can say their view and you nor anyone else are in a position to tell them otherwise. No one appointed you dictator. You do plenty of googling to post some of what you do on different topix sites, with that in mind, by now, you know that you continue to attempt to often mislead others by coming against those that post truth on issues known many. You're doing a poor PR job for whoever you represent.

How come you never post any PROOF for your claims?

I get it now your differing view is fine but mine is evil and eqauted to me a dictator. Okie dokie. As soon as you post reliable proof of anyhing even just one thing you claim in your posts i will then start to take you in a serious manner

Tell the Truth wrote:

Alamo Air Force and Land Locked Sailer rise up against those who would have a differing view then them and they do act like they know everythng while claiming others don't. The public can say their view and you nor anyone else are in a position to tell them otherwise. No one appointed you dictator. You do plenty of googling to post some of what you do on different topix sites, with that in mind, by now, you know that you continue to attempt to often mislead others by coming against those that post truth on issues known many. You're doing a poor PR job for whoever you represent.

You know if you have Barb Moore on your side then you're doing something...WRONG.

WooHoo wrote:

You know if you have Barb Moore on your side then you're doing something...WRONG.

Why..because I support our military?
Another ball-less troll who refuses to post under their name. You all are a dime a dozen.

alamo_airforce wrote:

Or if you look at it from another point of view. They could be telling these pilots hey you are payed to fly, you are assignsed to this weapons system so do the job your paid to do or we will kick you out.
The military kind of frowns on it when you refuse to do your job. Just saying.
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Kind of like you using a Government computer to engage in a Topix Forum at work? Nevermind. I'm just a Troll

I do not work dayshift but thanks for trying.

pot kettle black wrote:

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Kind of like you using a Government computer to engage in a Topix Forum at work? Nevermind. I'm just a Troll

Tell the Truth wrote:

Alamo Air Force and Land Locked Sailer rise up against those who would have a differing view then them and they do act like they know everythng while claiming others don't. The public can say their view and you nor anyone else are in a position to tell them otherwise. No one appointed you dictator. You do plenty of googling to post some of what you do on different topix sites, with that in mind, by now, you know that you continue to attempt to often mislead others by coming against those that post truth on issues known many. You're doing a poor PR job for whoever you represent.

Just one post some proof to any of your claims, and any proof to any of the other claims by your other 'Flock".

Truth requires proof, and you have shown no proof yet...