Investigators: Beer cans, suspected pot in Jeep

While that may have been true this lawyer fled the scene. The state police officer that is trained for such things fled the scene. Neither offered aid or called for help. I think YOU are missing the big picture here. While I believe drinking and driving is a stupid thing to do what these two did was downright revolting.

survivor wrote:

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I totally agree. Its important that we look at the whole picture and then reach a conclusion as to what happened. Right now, there is absolutely nothing that points any explanation or blame for this accident on the kids!. They were out late..ok, that has nothing to do with the surrounding accident. Its outrageous to me that people want to look at the kids yet you had the previous DUI death involving the lawyer and no one dared question the actions of the victim despite the fact he was going to drive home 50miles intoxicated, on drugs, with multiple offenses for DUI and alcohol related violations, suspended licenses, domestic violence,thousands in child support, after jaywalking backwards in the middle of a dark street wearing all black. Now there one could logically question the recklessness of both parties...but here...give me a break. People only read what they want to and need to look at the facts then think about it.

I wrote that comment from sad days computer but they are not that users words. Seems that logging into my own e-mail account still brings up sad day's info. Anyway, i stand by what i said.

Dreamer

i am wrote:

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laughing my **** off at your stupid thinking. You are a "mildly" drunk driver? OMG. Get a grip. There (i can't stop laughing) is no such think as a "mildly" drunk driver.
Please officer don't take me to jail, when i hit that car with 5 people in it i was only "mildly" drunk.

I have driven a car after having had a glass of wine or beer. That was decades ago. Have you never done that?

I consider myself "mildly drunk" after a single drink. Nowadays, I never drive, even after just one. If I had ever been stopped or in accident, I would have completely stopped a lot sooner. People who learn they have been driving impaired, by accident or arrest, and then continue to drive drunk, should not be forgiven. I don't have a problem with drunks drinking. But, two time drunk drivers should never be allowed near an automobile, ever again.

everybody believes in something different, but what ever you beleive in is still in your heart. you could be catholic, baptist, jehoih, buddisium, ect. it dosen't matter these kids will still be in your hearts & minds forever. there gone, so lets remember all the good times they had before that tragic night. don't ever forget them they will always be in my heart and mind. and scott owens i did not know any of these kids but my heart goes out for there famlys. you will have to live with this for the rest of tour life. i don't care what everybody says thats gotta be hard on your mind & your heart. the more i think about what happend to you that night i'm sorry but you crossed the line. you killed 4 teens and injured 1. they had there whole life ahead of them. you know when i was younger , i used to drink and drive, but i had an accident, i didenent kill anybody but i realized i can't do this anymore, or i might accidently might kill somebody one day. so now i drink at home, if i run out of beer to bad. i will not get in my car and go get another 6- pack no way. its not worth it.

People need to go beyond that one night to remember these teens. They were real people. Their mothers gave them birth. Little did they know that between 15 and 17 years later, their lives would end at the hands of a drunk driver. They were cute toddlers, precious pre-schoolers, darling grade schoolers, awesome mid-schooler and dynamite high schoolers. They were the son and daughters of someone, the grandchildren, niece, nephew, brother or sister to others. They were friends with many. They sat across the aisle from classmates, sharing a laugh before class or a moan when the exam was passed out. They were passionate in art, in sports, in community affairs. They loved to read, to giggle and laugh, to visit and text their friends. They were out to enjoy life. They were not sitting home watching reruns on the TV, or featured on being pregnant at 16. They were good kids, being teens, in the wrong place at the wrong time.

We are 'assuming' they were out to party, drink, then drive. But, do we know this? Perhaps they all planned to sleep over in Eldorado. It's terrible to assume. My teen brings friends over and they hang out. There is no booze. There is only laughter and fun at the pool table. Many sleep over, just because they want to. No booze ever appears. There are many, many good kids out there, and these were among them.

Who knows what they could have done for society, for our future? They were already making this world a better place by their current endeavors. Imagine what they could have done as adults. There was a whole world waiting for them, to make it better for you and I. In a split second, their dreams and our dreams were wiped out. At the hands of a drunk driver.

Ret-Cop wrote:

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And whenever I point out that the dopers jump on the bandwagon to defend their illegal drug, they respons with, "I'm not a user, but waste of...harass...tax dollars...tax the stuff...Prohibition...yada, yada, yada"
Ending with something like, "There's nothing we can do."
Predictable. Every time.

Yeah, rational laws. What a concept.
I see you're just worried about your buddies losing their funds and their excuses for harrassing young people and hippies.
Profiling? What's that?

We all haven't been on this site awhile. Let's remember it has been a little over a month now. Don't let this fade away. It certainly hasn't faded away for the families. It has only gotten stronger, the permanence of them not coming home.

you know Kate KLINE is on my route every wensday so i stop in just to say a few words and pick some flowers and put them on her grave. when i go there are usally no flowers on her gravesite. i know when i pass on i would like to know that somebody is visiting me. i did not know any of these kids. but my heart and soul goes out to there familys. and i will stop and see her every week when i'm in the area.

mark levasseur-chiconky wrote:

you know Kate KLINE is on my route every wensday so i stop in just to say a few words and pick some flowers and put them on her grave. when i go there are usally no flowers on her gravesite. i know when i pass on i would like to know that somebody is visiting me. i did not know any of these kids. but my heart and soul goes out to there familys. and i will stop and see her every week when i'm in the area.

Where is gravesite?

What a beautiful gesture, Mark! Thank you! Does anyone know where all the teens are buried?

i wish i knew. because i wrote some words, i would like to get them lamated and put them at each gravesite. KATE KLINE is at memorial gardens on rodeo rd. if anyone out there knows where the other 3 are buried let me know.