Tell me about your massage experiences

doubledown wrote:

Stress is energy that has built up and become localized in certain areas of your body. One area where this energy becomes stuck is in your genital area.

Please provide a link to a double-blinded, prospective, randomized, placebo-controlled, peer-reviewed clinical trial that supports this assertion.

LMT wrote:

<quoted text>Please provide a link to a double-blinded, prospective, randomized, placebo-controlled, peer-reviewed clinical trial that supports this assertion.

Please provide me with a description of the placebo for release of tension in the genitals!

Rickenbacker 12 wrote:

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Please provide me with a description of the placebo for release of tension in the genitals!

First you must prove the existence of "tension in the genitals". So many of you with NO education in anatomy or physiology beyond the eighth grade think you can just make shit up and it will be accepted by those of us with several semesters of intense study. Result: FAIL

LMT wrote:

<quoted text>Please provide a link to a double-blinded, prospective, randomized, placebo-controlled, peer-reviewed clinical trial that supports this assertion.

????? Does that mean, anyway you and 3 other of your peers, are locked in on your opinion, and seem there are an army of people that dis-agree with you.
Question: is an orgasm, or ejaculation a form of stress relief?, regardless how it is achieved?
Or is your whole premise is that it is illegal, un-ethical , in your profession?
Also are you saying its not normal for a man or a woman to become aroused at any level , when receiving a therapeutic massage?( without any contact to genital areas).? Just curious.

doubledown wrote:

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????? Does that mean, anyway you and 3 other of your peers, are locked in on your opinion, and seem there are an army of people that dis-agree with you.
Question: is an orgasm, or ejaculation a form of stress relief?, regardless how it is achieved?
Or is your whole premise is that it is illegal, un-ethical , in your profession?
Also are you saying its not normal for a man or a woman to become aroused at any level , when receiving a therapeutic massage?( without any contact to genital areas).? Just curious.

First of all, let me ask you and the other defenders of masturbation in the massage room, why you are so ardent in promoting this practice? The fact is that it is illegal in almost all places in America, it is strictly forbidden by the governing licensure boards in all states, and it is unethical and unprofessional.
Your "straw man" claim that if we're professional we must be prudes is just bullshit.
A physiologic response to stimulus is not automatically a "stress relief". Dilation of the pupils of the eye in a dark environment is a physiologic response, but it has nothing to do with any stress relief.
Relaxation, NOT STIMULATION, is how to achieve stress relief.
Arousal can happen. But intentional arousal to the point of orgasm is unprofessional and unethical, and probably illegal. Any massage practitioner who is so unaware of his/her client that they don't know they are causing sexual arousal doesn't belong in the profession.

First of all, there are more than 3 of LMT's peers reading these forums. Most do not post here because they understand it is hopeless to get any of you to see our side of the story.

Secondly, it is not an army of people who disagree with us, just a handful.

Third, masturbation is a response to stimuli either physical or mental. Relaxation happens within the brain first, body second. While sexual arousal does scream out to be taken care of, it does not cause the body stress (kinda like your nose itching, you must scratch it).

Fourth, I still don't want you to masturbate in MY space, it leaves a smell, messes with the energy in the room, and disrespects me.

Fifth, it is illegal to masturbate anywhere but the privacy of your own home. You can be charged with sexual misconduct at the very least - have fun explaining that one to your friends and family.

LMT wrote:

<quoted text>First you must prove the existence of "tension in the genitals". So many of you with NO education in anatomy or physiology beyond the eighth grade think you can just make shit up and it will be accepted by those of us with several semesters of intense study. Result: FAIL

LMT: Regarding my post -- I believe your irony detector is on the fritz.

Rickenbacker 12 wrote:

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LMT: Regarding my post -- I believe your irony detector is on the fritz.

If you meant that as satire, my apologies. Hard to tell in this forum.

Brenda LMT wrote:

I've been an LMT for 15 years and take great pride in my profession. Make no mistake about it. I am a professional and take my job seriously. I won't put up with any bad behavior from my clients.
But I'm also human and understand men's needs and desires. If a guy has a good personality and is being nice, I might "accidently" touch his private area. If he enjoys it, I'll do it again. When he turns over with an erection, I'll stroke his penis until he ejaculates. Sure it's against the rules, but so is jay walking. Who among us hasn't broken the rules. And if he wants to tip me, so much the better.
There is "professional" and there is "prude." I'm a professional.

Brenda, good for you. Whether the prudes on here admit it or not, your attitude is not uncommon among LMTs. You most certainly are a professional -- you simply provide a little additional service above and beyond standard massage therapy.

You're an adult (I assume) and what you and another consenting adult do behind closed doors is no one else's business.

I thank you for catering to your clients' needs; many of us want BOTH a professional massage and a "happy ending." We don't want to go to a "rub and tug" place, as that is not professional massage. Clearly, there is a demand for this type of service; and the simple laws of capitalism ensure that if there is a demand for a service, someone will provide it.

The laws about sex in this country are completely and utterly bizarre. It would be 100% legal to meet a total stranger in a bar and, within the first 5 minutes, ask him "Would you like to come back to my place for a massage and a hand job?" Without money changing hands, that is totally legal.

Yet as soon as money changes hands, that same act becomes illegal. Why? Again I say, what two consenting adults do behind the privacy of closed doors is no one's business but their own.