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CCLMT wrote:

No, in Texas, there has to be consent between the therapist and client about the lack of draping. I always make sure that is covered in writing so nothing can come back at me later.

i live in corpus and would like to find a female therpist that dosent require draping. shoot me a email if you are available. bob4womantx@yahoo.com

I receive massage therapy weekly for about 5 months. Among the short term problem was surgery on my upper back for a cancer. After the biopsy scar healed she worked on the area to optimize circulation and the surgery went well and now we are working on the surgical scar. Long time I have circulation problems due to diabetes. I am not a doctor although I have seen a lot lately. Over the years the hair on my legs died due to circulation and now it is coming back. I am draped but a small one that is moved so that the hamstring can be worked as well as the glutius.
My skin doctor is female and she views me naked as does my female GP, her nurse practitioner, her physician's assistant and both of their nurses. They have all seen me naked.
When I had to go in for the colon cancer thing I was worked on by a team of 6 consiting of one male and five females all of whom saw me naked.
I thank God and these people for being alive and feeling some degree of relief in my pain and sufering.
Modesty or mortality . I am happy to be alive.
Thank God for these people. I have nothing but thanks and respect for all of them and as it is all but one is a female.

LMT wrote:

Uhh Draping IS required by the Texas State Law. They just recently changed the hourly requirements from 300 to 500hrs, which is good. But Draping is always required. For those who had to take the practical part of the Licensing exam(which is not required anymore) if you exposed genitals or breasts or the gluteal cleavage you were instantly failed. There are professional draping skills that most of us know that do not impede our Therapy.

Hey LMT - Unless I missread, there was and amendment to the draping law in Texas that was passed in 2006 which states that undraped massage is ok provided the client initials the consent form.

Yes. I agree. Female herapists usually do not spend much time on the glutes

johny wrote:

Yes. I agree. Female herapists usually do not spend much time on the glutes

Well all you have to do is read the "Therapeutic Massage and Ejaculation" thread to see why. Apparently all a female has to do is touch a man's butt and he shoots his load all over her sheets!!

It doesn't work for me. Never shot loads on her sheets. I enjoy the feeling. Its nice especially in the glutes and the crack

In the crack? That's one NASTY LMT!!! Man, you better hope she washes her hands between massages!!!

She does. There is a sink were they wash hands.

I see her wash hands. Its actually quite cmfortable

As a female, I too liketo have my glutes massaged. I am always allowed to be un-draped upon my request, and I have had therapists do between the cheeks in a deep manner, and very, very close to private areas while doing the front and I am on my back, but they all do ask to let them know if it's uncomfortable where they are massaging. I have even orgasmed without them knowing. :)

I also enjoy having my glutes massaged, but cannot find an LMT that will do all the glutes or allow no draping. I am not looking for anything sexual or illegal, but would enjoy complete massages without any draping. To me, a complete massage includes all the the muscle areas to include the complete glutes. In my opinion, its all about trust. If both therapist and client trust each other and a consent is signed, it should not be illegal. We are adults and should not be treated by the government as children.

Sandy, Thank you so much for your input. It is nice to have womans input, especially one that is grounded but open. My guess is that when you have orgasmed you have not felt guilty since there was trust between you all and there was nothing sexually overt. I have seen 2 RMTs and one has allowed undraped and the other not. The one who requires draping still works deep and up near the groin. I will ususally orgasm several times and ejaculate at the end but I always wear a condom out of respect for her and so I don't make a mess. The one who allows undraped understands energy work. In neither case is there ever any touching of the genitals or sexual talk. Just the energy is enough to cause incredible enrgy frlow and orgasms.

I really dont feel that there is anything to be embarrased about or ashamed of.

Thanks again Sandy for your comments and candor!!

TantricGuy, thank you aswell. I read with your post with interest. Yes, there trust issue seems to always be there, and I understand how the orgasms can be spontaneous without direct stimulation. I too have them that way during massages, but there is also sometimes direct stimulation that occurs either accidently or purposely during my visits with therapists.

I have had therapists work deeply between the glutes enough to comeinto contact with the anus opening as well as to go as far as inside the genital area. There I find it near impossible not to orgasm.

Sandy wrote:

TantricGuy, thank you aswell. I read with your post with interest. Yes, there trust issue seems to always be there, and I understand how the orgasms can be spontaneous without direct stimulation. I too have them that way during massages, but there is also sometimes direct stimulation that occurs either accidently or purposely during my visits with therapists.
I have had therapists work deeply between the glutes enough to comeinto contact with the anus opening as well as to go as far as inside the genital area. There I find it near impossible not to orgasm.

I too have had a simular experience. My MT has me lay on my side to massage my hip/glute area, she says she can get deeper that way. She explained to me that's it's hard to keep me draped in this position, so I tell it's okay to not cover me. She works my glutes near my anus too, sometimes resulting in ejaculation.
Recently she did hot stone therapy on my stomach, the sheet was pulled down real low exposing the top part of my genitals, she brushed it several times, possibly on purpose which resulted in an ejaculation.

Sandy

I appreciate your comments ands think that your point is worth expanding on. If you look at the adductor muscle, it is the one that runs from the inner thigh at the knee up the inner thigh and then curves back towards the glutes. The point at which it curves toward the glute it runs up against the groin muscle. If you get a massage from most LMTs that drape, if they even work the adductor they usually stop about 6 or more inches from the groin. The funny thing is that the adductor doesn't stop there.

For those men and women who feel guilty, it is usually because ther was specific intent to arous and turn on through words or actions. I do not have to worry about that since it does not happen. Also, through a rewiring process of mind and body I can experience multiple O's in minutes through light foot massage. If the therapist lightly massages the pads of my toes and in between I can have the most blissful O's. I am also able t ohave O's through light and gentle nipple massage. Depending on my mood and level of relaxation I can often ejaculate without any genital contact. I actually prefere that over intense stimulation. It just feel like warm blissful waves washing over your body.I think that the pleasure we experience is very respectful and that there is nothing to be ashamed of.

Is there any way to exchange emails without it being seen by all?

When will you guys get it through your head that therapeutic massage is NOT sexual? Quit trying to bring your little fantasy life into a professional setting. Yes, we can always tell when you orgasm whether you ejaculate or not, simply by the tension in the body that can't be hidden no matter what you think.
Any muscle can be overworked which is NOT good, and not every muscle needs to be massaged from origination to insertion to be affected.
Therapeutic massage starts the muscle relaxing and the body takes over and finishes the job. That is why your physical body feels best about 24-48 hours after the massage.
If you don't have training in massage, quit trying to answer questions. I don't come to your workplace and tell you how you "should" work or what is allowed, so quit doing it to us legitimate MTs.
This is a forum for therapeutic massage, not adolescent writings.

Sandy wrote:

TantricGuy, thank you aswell. I read with your post with interest. Yes, there trust issue seems to always be there, and I understand how the orgasms can be spontaneous without direct stimulation. I too have them that way during massages, but there is also sometimes direct stimulation that occurs either accidently or purposely during my visits with therapists.
I have had therapists work deeply between the glutes enough to comeinto contact with the anus opening as well as to go as far as inside the genital area. There I find it near impossible not to orgasm.

Thanks Sandy. Interesting post. I have had some similar experience (described on my post to the "Therapeutic Massage and Ejaculation" topic.
Just curious... do you go to both male and female massage therapists? Do you experience this more with one or the other?

who cares wrote:

When will you guys get it through your head that therapeutic massage is NOT sexual? Quit trying to bring your little fantasy life into a professional setting. Yes, we can always tell when you orgasm whether you ejaculate or not, simply by the tension in the body that can't be hidden no matter what you think.
Any muscle can be overworked which is NOT good, and not every muscle needs to be massaged from origination to insertion to be affected.
Therapeutic massage starts the muscle relaxing and the body takes over and finishes the job. That is why your physical body feels best about 24-48 hours after the massage.
If you don't have training in massage, quit trying to answer questions. I don't come to your workplace and tell you how you "should" work or what is allowed, so quit doing it to us legitimate MTs.
This is a forum for therapeutic massage, not adolescent writings.

Well said, Who Cares!!! It's amazing how many untrained fools in this thread are trying to explain uncontrolled ejaculation during massage as a natural occurrence, quoting freshman biology as if they have any experience in massage therapy. If you don't have the training (and I mean 700 or more hours in an AMTA-approved massage therapy school), don't try to answer questions in this forum.

"When will you guys get it through your head that therapeutic massage is NOT sexual? Quit trying to bring your little fantasy life into a professional setting."

The female MT I patronize is SOOOO much more professioanl than MS paranoid "Im so professional, you guys need to get a grip". I have never had a "happy ending" nor asked or been offered. Nor has she fondled my privates. She does however provide bare glute massage and perineum massage in which I feel honored, blessed, relaxed and rejuvenated. In the effort of so many uptight MTs to distance themselves from the sex industry, they do a disservice to those of us wish to experience the nurturing of our bodies in a shameless, relaxed and accepting way. Trust me it all comes through in your paranoid touch and the ulitmate non sexual massage feels lacking on the deepest level. Thank god I found a woman who practices massage without hangups and chastising humans who are evolving mind, body, spirit and pleasure.

MTMich wrote:

"When will you guys get it through your head that therapeutic massage is NOT sexual? Quit trying to bring your little fantasy life into a professional setting."
The female MT I patronize is SOOOO much more professioanl than MS paranoid "Im so professional, you guys need to get a grip". I have never had a "happy ending" nor asked or been offered. Nor has she fondled my privates. She does however provide bare glute massage and perineum massage in which I feel honored, blessed, relaxed and rejuvenated. In the effort of so many uptight MTs to distance themselves from the sex industry, they do a disservice to those of us wish to experience the nurturing of our bodies in a shameless, relaxed and accepting way. Trust me it all comes through in your paranoid touch and the ulitmate non sexual massage feels lacking on the deepest level. Thank god I found a woman who practices massage without hangups and chastising humans who are evolving mind, body, spirit and pleasure.

No, my touch is not lacking anything. I have a full schedule and do not accept new clients, so must be doing something right. In fact, every client LOVES the way I touch and nurture their body WITHOUT ANY SEX.

The muscles at the perineum do NOT need massage anymore than the muscles of the pelvic floor. If you found a hooker who is willing to massage there, good for you, but quit calling it legitimate therapeutic massage.

I have no hangups about the human body, I think is is a wonderous thing to behold. I am honored to be able to provide relief from pain and help my fellow humans live happier, healthier lives.

No matter how you phrase it, anything sexual during a massage is NOT acceptable. Try getting an original thought, don't fall back on that old chestnut of blah, blah, blah, they just don't understand, they aren't evolved enough to handle sex, blah, blah, blah.

Who Cares wrote:

<quoted text>No, my touch is not lacking anything. I have a full schedule and do not accept new clients, so must be doing something right. In fact, every client LOVES the way I touch and nurture their body WITHOUT ANY SEX.
The muscles at the perineum do NOT need massage anymore than the muscles of the pelvic floor. If you found a hooker who is willing to massage there, good for you, but quit calling it legitimate therapeutic massage.
I have no hangups about the human body, I think is is a wonderous thing to behold. I am honored to be able to provide relief from pain and help my fellow humans live happier, healthier lives.
No matter how you phrase it, anything sexual during a massage is NOT acceptable. Try getting an original thought, don't fall back on that old chestnut of blah, blah, blah, they just don't understand, they aren't evolved enough to handle sex, blah, blah, blah.

Ditto. MTMich is getting sex from his "therapist" and he's trying to call it massage so he doesn't have to feel embarrassed or ashamed of his association with this hooker.