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Robert
Nashville, TN
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Does anyone know where one might get an undrapped massage from a LMT in Nashville?
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Jason
Elkhart, IN
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Have you checked craigslist and backpage?
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Robert
Nashville, TN
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Jason wrote: Have you checked craigslist and backpage? Actually I have tried. I've only found one who gave a legitimate, good quality massage while allowing me to be undraped. But she's recently left for another state. All others have either given a quality massage with draping or a low quality "body rub" without draping. I want the best of both worlds and am tired of hunting around.
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Rachel- Massage Therapist
Dallas, TX
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I tried looking up what the law says about massage draping, and it was getting cumbersome to find anything specific, though I did find reference to it on a message board that in Tennessee, Massage Therapists are required to provide draping (though a lawyer had tried to argue that the law didn't state the client had to take advantage of that draping if they chose not to, but then lawyers can argue anything).
If you're calling therapists to ask for no draping, they may see that as a pervert red-flag. I've known a few therapists (here in texas where it's optional) that will do undraped massage for established clients, but if someone calls them, they will say they always use draping.
Try asking for minimal draping, or assuring those you call that you're not looking for anything unprofessional (and then don't show up trying to get a happy ending too or anything).
Good luck...
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Robert
Nashville, TN
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Rachel- Massage Therapist wrote: I've known a few therapists (here in texas where it's optional) that will do undraped massage for established clients, but if someone calls them, they will say they always use draping. Try asking for minimal draping, or assuring those you call that you're not looking for anything unprofessional (and then don't show up trying to get a happy ending too or anything). Good luck... Thank you for your advice. But it's the asking part that problem. I feel that if I ask to be undraped upfront that I would be rejected outright. And, probably looked with suspicion during any session. So I just go and see how the draping goes. More often than not, the ones who don't require draping, or drapes very little, often give sub-par massages. Actually, what I'm looking for is some really good glute work. It's been my experience that therapists will try to either massage under the drape or even through the drape. But my thinking again is if I actually ask for my glutes to be worked before or during a session I will be looked upon with suspicion.
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Dr G
Joinville, Brazil
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Robert wrote: <quoted text> Thank you for your advice. But it's the asking part that problem. I feel that if I ask to be undraped upfront that I would be rejected outright. And, probably looked with suspicion during any session. So I just go and see how the draping goes. More often than not, the ones who don't require draping, or drapes very little, often give sub-par massages. Actually, what I'm looking for is some really good glute work. It's been my experience that therapists will try to either massage under the drape or even through the drape. But my thinking again is if I actually ask for my glutes to be worked before or during a session I will be looked upon with suspicion. As noted in a response posted above, TN requires providing the draping, but no where in their regulations can I find you must use it. I ALWAYS receive massage nude and undraped, but then I don't have to deal with the prudishness of USA MTs (although not all consider the human body dirty). My advice is to not be reticent about asking for what you want - you will probably get some rejections, but you will also probably find a suitable match. If you are not ashamed of your body, why should you let someone else make you feel guilty about asking for a massage that satisfies YOU - after all, you are the client.
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John
Los Angeles, CA
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I've been a massage therapist for 16 years, and, in no uncertain terms, when someone asks for a massage undraped, it is because they are seeking sexual gratification or, at the very least, sexual titillation at the idea of being nude in front of another person. There is definitely a sexual element. It is not the massueur's or massuese's intention to "shame" you when they cover you with a drape. That's how we work and are able to perform legitimately in our professions. How many times have you had a checkup at your physician's office and asked if you could lie naked on the examination table instead of using their paper gowns? Have you ever stripped down to your birthday suit so that your chiropractor could give you an adjustment? Have you ever been to a salon and sat naked in the chair while the stylist clipped your hair? Besides this, why do you think a legitimate massage therapist should be obliged to look at your ass crack that spreads when we work on your glutes? What you should look for is an erotic massage, because it is apparent to all of us who work as massage therapists that this is what you are seeking. If you want a legitimate massage, then deal with the drape.
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John
Los Angeles, CA
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P.S. Asking for work on your glutes means nothing, and has never made me suspicious of anyone, and it can easily be done with a drape, by simply uncovering whichever side the therapist is working on. I always work on my clients' glutes--And I've been credited with assisting in the disappearance of symptoms of sciatica from my glute work. And my clients are always draped.
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Robert
Nashville, TN
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John wrote: I've been a massage therapist for 16 years, and, in no uncertain terms, when someone asks for a massage undraped, it is because they are seeking sexual gratification or, at the very least, sexual titillation at the idea of being nude in front of another person. There is definitely a sexual element. It is not the massueur's or massuese's intention to "shame" you when they cover you with a drape. That's how we work and are able to perform legitimately in our professions. How many times have you had a checkup at your physician's office and asked if you could lie naked on the examination table instead of using their paper gowns? Have you ever stripped down to your birthday suit so that your chiropractor could give you an adjustment? Have you ever been to a salon and sat naked in the chair while the stylist clipped your hair? Besides this, why do you think a legitimate massage therapist should be obliged to look at your ass crack that spreads when we work on your glutes? What you should look for is an erotic massage, because it is apparent to all of us who work as massage therapists that this is what you are seeking. If you want a legitimate massage, then deal with the drape. Believe it or not, it has been over twenty years since I've seen a physician or a hair stylist (I cut my own hair). And, I've never seen a chiropractor. So how about coming up with other examples.
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LMT
Twinsburg, OH
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Robert wrote: <quoted text> Believe it or not, it has been over twenty years since I've seen a physician or a hair stylist (I cut my own hair). Are you trying to make a point out of the fact that you are a recluse who doesn't take care of himself? No wonder you need to seek out the masseuses who do undraped "massage." Those who can't find female companionship through normal methods turn to pay-for-sex, even if the sex is only in their minds. Professionals in the medical fields can see right through your request to be undraped. You're not fooling anyone.
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Dr G wrote: <quoted text> As noted in a response posted above, TN requires providing the draping, but no where in their regulations can I find you must use it. I ALWAYS receive massage nude and undraped, but then I don't have to deal with the prudishness of USA MTs (although not all consider the human body dirty). My advice is to not be reticent about asking for what you want - you will probably get some rejections, but you will also probably find a suitable match. If you are not ashamed of your body, why should you let someone else make you feel guilty about asking for a massage that satisfies YOU - after all, you are the client. I resent being called prudish just because I don't want to include sex in a massage session. Here in the good old USA, if someone asks for undraped massage, they are almost always looking for a happy ending. We do have to protect ourselves and our reputation. Since when is using a drape the same as calling the human body dirty. If we thought the human body was dirty, we wouldn't be MT's in the first place. Every MT I know has GREAT respect for the human body and thinks human bodies are wondrous things. Please present a true rebuttal for not using a drape and stop relying on casting untrue and childish aspersions on professionals. Flame away my friends, I am secure in my person, sexuality, and abilities, so anything negative you want to write will have no bearing on my day to day life.
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Hotdude
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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I don't agree that a request for an undraped massage is a perv looking for a happy ending. In my experience draped massages can be great, but some can be downright awful because the MT (usually women) will undrape maybe 1/2 of your thigh and either 1/2 or less of the glute. And some will just go over it... pathetic! The reason I say women is because I've found that they seem to get freaked out if they undrape your entire hamstring or undrape the entire leg including the glulte and any part of the penis comes into view. Guys don't seem to be as conservative with the draping. While I have had good massages with a drape, I prefer none because the MT will be much more complete while still not touching my penis and assh*le. Now, if they do touch these parts, then all the better!!!!
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Dr G
Joinville, Brazil
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bellfly wrote: <quoted text>I resent being called prudish just because I don't want to include sex in a massage session. Here in the good old USA, if someone asks for undraped massage, they are almost always looking for a happy ending. We do have to protect ourselves and our reputation. Since when is using a drape the same as calling the human body dirty. If we thought the human body was dirty, we wouldn't be MT's in the first place. Every MT I know has GREAT respect for the human body and thinks human bodies are wondrous things. Please present a true rebuttal for not using a drape and stop relying on casting untrue and childish aspersions on professionals. No where did I say nor did I imply that Robert should ask for sex during massage - he simply was looking for undraped massage. I have been massaged hundreds of times nude and undraped, and have never sought, or received, a "happy ending." I fully understand your profession's legitimate desire and need to distance yourselves from the tawdry "massage parlors" of San Fransisco's old tenderloin district character. I respect and appreciate your profession so much that I studied it myself, and administer massage although not for fee ( I am retired and have no need of additional income). Can you accept that draping might be a customer preference, or must it be your way or no way? If you respect the human body so much, you should not be afraid to view it. I don't even like the sheet over me in bed, unless it is quite chilly by most people's standards. I like to receive massage with long strokes, particularly effleurage. I'm not ashamed of my body, and being nude and undraped results, for me, in a better massage experience. While you resent being called prudish because you don't want to include sex in a massage (and I support you in not wanting to), I resent your attributing to me, and others of my opinion, a desire for a "happy ending" when that is the furthest thing from my mind. Undraped massage should be at the option of the client, but if you don't want to perform it, perhaps you could at least be helpful enough to steer the customer to a qualified MT that will - and in the process simply state that a "happy ending" will not be provided regardless, if that is what you are so up tight about.
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Robert
Nashville, TN
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LMT wrote: <quoted text>Are you trying to make a point out of the fact that you are a recluse who doesn't take care of himself? No wonder you need to seek out the masseuses who do undraped "massage." Those who can't find female companionship through normal methods turn to pay-for-sex, even if the sex is only in their minds. Professionals in the medical fields can see right through your request to be undraped. You're not fooling anyone. Actually I jog and/or cycle daily and am told I look ten years younger than my age of 48. I just don't see the need to go to the doctor for colds and flues. By the way, I'm also not into taking medication. If you see me even take an aspirin I must be really hurting. Now if I had broken bone or such, I would see a physician. Oh, I also have plenty in the way of female companionship. So quit trying to pigeon-hole me, please. It has just been my case that I rarely get a good, much less great, leg work when draped. By the way, I've recently found a new therapist who those great legwork. I'm not completely undraped. But she fully uncovers my glutes and hamstrings when working on them. So I see it as a great compromise.
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LMT
Twinsburg, OH
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Robert wrote: <quoted text> By the way, I've recently found a new therapist who those great legwork. I'm not completely undraped. But she fully uncovers my glutes and hamstrings when working on them. So I see it as a great compromise. Well, THANK YOU for that comment. That's our (professional LMTs) point. Since we aren't allowed to work the cleft, why should we have to look at someone's rectum? We have no difficulty at all getting to the origin of the glutes on the sacrum, as well as the origin of the hamstrings on the ischium, while still providing appropriate draping. So the argument that therapists can't do their work unless the client is completely nude is just bunk. I'm glad you found a good therapist. Good health to you.
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Robert
Nashville, TN
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LMT wrote: <quoted text>Well, THANK YOU for that comment. That's our (professional LMTs) point. Since we aren't allowed to work the cleft, why should we have to look at someone's rectum? We have no difficulty at all getting to the origin of the glutes on the sacrum, as well as the origin of the hamstrings on the ischium, while still providing appropriate draping. So the argument that therapists can't do their work unless the client is completely nude is just bunk. I'm glad you found a good therapist. Good health to you. LMT, You need to keep your unsolicited comments to yourself. And why would anyone be viewing anyone's rectums seeing that it is inside the body and outside of the natural viewing area. From what I read you never really provide any insight into massage therapy. All you seem to do is "preach" against nude massages.
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I never use drapes during a massage, the pleats are too hard to manage. A sheet works much better.
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Hotdude
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Robert
Nashville, TN
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bellfly wrote: I never use drapes during a massage, the pleats are too hard to manage. A sheet works much better. Perhaps you can opt for the middle ground and used curtains instead of drapes or sheets.
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Bryan
Clarksville, TN
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Robert, can you give me some info on the therapist that you found? I know just where you are coming from, if you dont post it on here just email me at bryanrock28@yahoo.com
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