Masturbation after massage

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LMTinAZ

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Feb 11, 2010
 

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I think ya'll are talking about two totally different things here.

I've been a licenced massage therapist for 13 years, I currently provide massage therapy in home for people who are not able to get out due to injury or other disability, I also give massage to healthy people in their homes. I provide therapeutic massage and that's it. What people do in their own home after I've gone is not my concern, but I've never had anyone ask me to do anything beyond the therapy that is discussed during the initial visit.

Some men do get an erection, but they never ask me to take care of it for them. Even when I worked in a clinic, the rules were plainly stated and no one ever asked for anything inappropriate.

I believe this issue is one of the problems that have kept legitimate massage therapy from being given the respect it deserves.

Any person, licenced or not, that provides or allows that type of behavior in their presence or with their knowledge may be a "professional", but they do a disservice to the LMT community, imo.
CCLMT

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You really do stretch the facts, don't you LMT. So, let me see if I have this straight. For 4 years, while a student, you interned with the manager for a position you hoped to get. When you didn't get that position, you took a lower position somewhere else. What was that position again? Now you are just a bitter old man trying to push your beliefs by being rude?
Maybe you ought to take a lesson from the way Fullermassage writes. He is able to disagree, state his point and put up valid arguments and reasons without questioning others character. People like him/her probably won't have to back up in life and, this is just a guess, they probably have a better outlook on things in general.
If I have this wrong, please post some facts that can be verified if anyone wants to instead of just writing I...I...I.... I won't spend that much time on you but surely someone in this world might be interested.
LMT

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CCLMT wrote:
You really do stretch the facts, don't you LMT. So, let me see if I have this straight. For 4 years, while a student, you interned with the manager for a position you hoped to get. When you didn't get that position, you took a lower position somewhere else. What was that position again? Now you are just a bitter old man trying to push your beliefs by being rude?
Maybe you ought to take a lesson from the way Fullermassage writes. He is able to disagree, state his point and put up valid arguments and reasons without questioning others character. People like him/her probably won't have to back up in life and, this is just a guess, they probably have a better outlook on things in general.
If I have this wrong, please post some facts that can be verified if anyone wants to instead of just writing I...I...I.... I won't spend that much time on you but surely someone in this world might be interested.
Comprehension FAIL. Jealousy meter pegged on max. You're a sad little girl, CCLMT.
Lucky Customer

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Feb 11, 2010
 
I do not live in Bangkok, but am vacationing here. There is no sex slave [trade] here and no one has "had" any 12 year olds. You obviously have never been here and are relying on the sensationalized US press for information.
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Im a professional massage therapist, and these kind of things sicken me. A Therapeutic massage is supposed to help you not give u an orgasm. People like u guys r sick perverts. You want a happy ending go to mexico. But when u walk into a professional environment, be mature about it. After all, you are going there for your own health and well being. And the whole "masturbating in the room after a massage." Really? Get out of here. U have no respect for yourself or anyone else. Pathetic.
LMT

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Lucky Customer wrote:
I do not live in Bangkok, but am vacationing here. There is no sex slave [trade] here and no one has "had" any 12 year olds. You obviously have never been here and are relying on the sensationalized US press for information.
Wrong again. Been to Pataya and Bangkok, but instead of shopping for sex, I bought emeralds and pearls.
Lucky Customer

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Feb 12, 2010
 
Then you KNOW there is no sex slave trade and no underage. Nothing wrong with emeralds and pearls.
Truth

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The amount and intensity of rage on this board is really astonishing to me. You'd think we were talking about murdering puppies or children, not something fundamentally harmless like masturbation. Orgasms are good things; pleasure is a good thing. And as long as the masturbation goes on in private behind closed doors, I really don't understand this level of anger. "I don't like it" would be one thing, or "You're being selfish" - but "You sicken me" and "You should be locked up as a sex offender"? It's a reaction out of all proportion to the cause.

You think people don't masturbate in their hotel rooms and leave the results on stained towels for housekeeping to pick up and launder? Should they be arrested for that?

How about the guys who go for a massage and are thoughtful enough not to masturbate in the room but do so while taking a shower afterwards? Does that make them sickening sex offenders?

I think the honest, reasonable way to describe the situation is that some (maybe many) LMTs find the idea of male clients masturbating on the premises highly offensive, while others don't like it but tolerate it (possibly out of economic necessity), and still others either don't care or genuinely don't mind; meanwhile, some male clients would never even think of doing it, some would think of it but hold themselves back (maybe out of consideration, maybe out of fear), and some will go ahead and do it, either just once in a while or every time. All we can hope is that the right men wind up going to the right LMTs - and in that respect, I agree with the earlier poster who said it's a shame we can't be more open about these topics, since if we could it would reduce the chances of a bad encounter.

Incidentally, over the years I've probably been to three or four dozen spas and massage locations around the country and the world, plus I've had therapists come to my hotel room and home, and not one of them has ever - EVER - asked for my driver's license.

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Truth, the rage that astounds you is not misplaced. It is frustrating to have someone sexualize something that is supposed to be therapeutic. It is really no different than if someone used your office to masturbate in, it is just not acceptable, nor is it private.

Massage therapy is fighting an uphill battle to educate the American public that we are a therapeutic business, not a front for sexual favors. We MTs might be just a tad touchy about this subject, but in our defense, we are getting mighty tired of the whole thing. We love what we do, it is a privilege to help people overcome pain, we find the human body to be fascinating in its ability to adapt and heal itself. No, we are not doctors, but we spent a considerable amount of time learning about the human body and how what we do affects it. Most MTs got into the massage business so we could make a difference in the quality of life for our client, and then find out that too many males consider us nothing more than a sexual favor.

Masturbating in private is much different than masturbating in someone's work place. What people do in the privacy of their own home is no one else's business. Masturbation in and of itself is not the issue, but rather that some men choose to do so in a space that is NOT private or personal.

And while on this subject, why is it okay to masturbate into a towel? That seems rather gross to me, especially when tissue or toilet paper are usually readily available. Expecting someone to handle another persons semen is vulgar and selfish, especially to the person who has to handle it.

I don't feel rage about this so much as weary frustration. I got a call yesterday from a gentleman asking how much a hand job at the end of the massage cost. I asked him if he posted on Topix forum and then hung up. While this gave me a small chuckle, no doubt the caller was perplexed, but I once again wondered why I even get these occasional calls.

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After posting the last message, I have come to the conclusion that the few dozen posters who post on this forum are not my clients, will never be my clients and I don't need to be thinking about the uncouth things that some men do.

I don't have this problem in my little business, all my male clients are well informed of what I do. Yes, I do get the occasional phone call, but overall, it just isn't a problem for me. So, I have decided that instead of reading and then having to think about the problem of men sexualizing what I do, I will probably stop reading here.

I hope that the people who continue to read and post here will try to be more understanding of what massage therapy is all about. I leave you all with warm wishes of healthy bodies and joints, and a overall consideration for your fellow human being.
Truth

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#54
Feb 13, 2010
 
Thanks, Fuller. Your message goes a long way toward helping me understand just how frustrating this topic is for you, and the obvious good will you have - even in the face of this frustration - really leaves me feeling sympathetic to your position in a way none of the earlier messages did. There is an enormous difference between frustration, honestly expressed, and rage or bile or bitter vituperation. With the exception of a few monstrous characters on both sides of this debate, I believe we're all basically decent people who simply have different perspectives and experiences. We can all benefit from learning from one another.
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come check our massage places

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LMT

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Feb 23, 2010
 
Elle wrote:
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Jun 7, 2010
 
So, I am hearing that massage is only for muscle and body stiffness and if it causes the client to get an erection, due to strokes that might cause blood flow, it is the clients concern and they need to relieve themselves, but not in the confines of the massage room. Otherwise, if they do, either by themselves, or with the help of a towel provided by the massage therapist (LMT or not), it is not acceptable, by law or codes of conduct. Is this right?
LMT

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Bob wrote:
...if it causes the client to get an erection, due to strokes that might cause blood flow...
So when did you complete your urology residency? Or are you just making this up to justify your masturbation fetish?
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Would you be mad if you walked into your office and found someone masturbating? In your office. Where you work?

Hmmmmmmm?
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Linus wrote:
Would you be mad if you walked into your office and found someone masturbating? In your office. Where you work?
Hmmmmmmm?
Sure. But I'd be mad if I found them naked on a table in my office too, whether or not they were covered with a sheet.
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Lucky Customer wrote:
I do not live in Bangkok, but am vacationing here. There is no sex slave [trade] here and no one has "had" any 12 year olds. You obviously have never been here and are relying on the sensationalized US press for information.
Ah, so you are God?! You know EVERYTHING about the asian continuosly documented sex trade? Take yer head out of the sand my friend. It's not "sensationalized" as you put it (that the term people use when they have no real, specific, pointed proof). It's real, as anyone with a computer can find out in less then 2 minutes....if you look. You don't want to believe it because it hurts your argument. Bad debating. Self delusion at it's fullest. I can understand how you dont want to believe it, but you're a VISITOR there. How would you know? AM I missing something? Do you have a job investigating these things? Please show me some PROOF of what you say, and then we can talk. Until then, stfu (use the computer to see what stfu means....THEN go do your research)
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Jul 6, 2010
 
Bob wrote:
So, I am hearing that massage is only for muscle and body stiffness and if it causes the client to get an erection, due to strokes that might cause blood flow, it is the clients concern and they need to relieve themselves, but not in the confines of the massage room. Otherwise, if they do, either by themselves, or with the help of a towel provided by the massage therapist (LMT or not), it is not acceptable, by law or codes of conduct. Is this right?
Yes
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I received and gift certificate from my wife to get a massage (1 hr) at a day spa place. I never been there before so I did not know what to expect.
This young lady walked me to the room and told me to get undressed and lay on the table, Iíll be right back. I got changed quickly and again, I wanted her to see me hard
so I pretended I was not ready but she walked in and saw my hard cock. She said sorry and closed the door but not fully. It was open about an inch as I saw her (through a mirror) peeking in at me.
I was playing with it for a bit. She said from the other side of the door ďare you readyĒ. I said yes. She walked in as I was climbing on the table so she could see my thing again.
That was more arousing then the actually massage I received. She put me under a sheet and blanket. She then removed a small part of the covers to massage that one part. She kept tucking me in. I was uncomfortable Plus she was wiping her nose here and there. The sniffles sound did not relax me one bit. Iím was not looking for a hand job or anything, I just wanted her to see me hard but to her, on a accidental level.

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