Americans heading to Mexico for discount dentistry

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“There is a whole world out there that has equally qualified dental professionals.”

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Sep 23, 2008
 
"You get what you pay for"]You know why dentistry is so cheap in Mexico is because they don't have to worry about malpractice insurance. You know why that is, because if they mess up there are no laws for you to be taken care of or reimbursed. So have fun on your Mexican vacation risking your health for a cheaper deal, that is typical of America today, always wanting a deal and something free. At least I know my dentistry here is guaranteed and I will keep my teeth. But I guess if you need cheap dentistry in another country especially Mexico you really don't care about what happens to your teeth! PS to the guy that actually had the nerve to ask his American dentist how the Mexican work was your dentist probably said good job done to get your rude self out of his office. Amazing the complete lack of respect for people these days."
Easy for you to say you over-payed scum dentist.
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Oct 26, 2008
 
You get what you pay for wrote:
You know why dentistry is so cheap in Mexico is because they don't have to worry about malpractice insurance. You know why that is, because if they mess up there are no laws for you to be taken care of or reimbursed. So have fun on your Mexican vacation risking your health for a cheaper deal, that is typical of America today, always wanting a deal and something free. At least I know my dentistry here is guaranteed and I will keep my teeth. But I guess if you need cheap dentistry in another country especially Mexico you really don't care about what happens to your teeth! PS to the guy that actually had the nerve to ask his American dentist how the Mexican work was your dentist probably said good job done to get your rude self out of his office. Amazing the complete lack of respect for people these days.
There is absolutely no excuse for the high prices the dentists charge here in the US> 66000 against 16000. I am not even close to rich and although I have so called dental insurance it covers 3k a year TOPS so what choice do a lot of us have? And its not like they are removing a kidney or something.

Dentist and doctors here are greedy and or careless thus the high malpractice ins.

All the negatives were most likely written by a us dentist.
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Dec 15, 2008
 

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Yes, I have seen a lot of cheap Mexican Dentistry in my 20+ years as a dental hygienist. The vast majority of it is poorly done, and eventually leads to periodontal problems and recurrent decay.
Dr Cervera

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I don't think we should slame all Mexican Dentist, especially when you can go anywhere in the world and run into bad dentist including the U.S. I think it is the dentist as a person, who needs to be honest with himself and patients. I guarantee my work for 5 years, meaning if something went wrong in those five years with the restorations I replace them at no charge to the patient. It is important to be honest and not attempt the impossible to make the sale. Honesty is the best policy. You have good dentist and bad dentist in any part of the world including the U.S. believe it or not, even with the laws and regulations being alot more strict in the U.S.
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Jan 14, 2009
 
Dr Cervera wrote:
I don't think we should slame all Mexican Dentist, especially when you can go anywhere in the world and run into bad dentist including the U.S. I think it is the dentist as a person, who needs to be honest with himself and patients. I guarantee my work for 5 years, meaning if something went wrong in those five years with the restorations I replace them at no charge to the patient. It is important to be honest and not attempt the impossible to make the sale. Honesty is the best policy. You have good dentist and bad dentist in any part of the world including the U.S. believe it or not, even with the laws and regulations being alot more strict in the U.S.
I agree with you.
DrS

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#56
Jan 14, 2009
 
I agree that there are good and bad dentists around the world, but there are risks involved in going out of the your own country for any medical procedure. You do get what you pay for, or rather what you invest in. You have to invest time, work, research to find a good dentist even in the good old US..or at least you should. This is even more important if you cross the border. It is an option. It is riskier, but a valid option non the less.
DrS

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Jan 14, 2009
 


Dentistry in the US is VERY expensive. I made enough from my private practice that when I retired, I moved to the Caribbean. However I was from a poor upbringing and wanted to give back once I made my career, so I always worked part time in Public Health.

If you dont live near a border state and dont have enough money for dental treatment, much less for a dental vacation, let me give you additional options.

Public Health Clinics. ALL states have programs for public health which include dental. These services are not usually advertised as they are underfunded and overbooked. They are more available in cities than in rural areas. Usually you have to be poor to qualify, so youre out of luck if youre middle class adults, but your kids might cualify. You can find out requirements through your local Public Health Department. LOOK IT UP ON THE WEB.

So where does that leave the , usually screwed over, middle class?
PRIVATE, NON PROFIT, COMMUNITY CLINICS.
Many exist and most people dont know it. A lot of people who do keep it quiet. You dont have to be from a certain income group, but particular requirements vary at each clinic.
There are different variations, but they function in a similar way because they have the same requirements from the Federal government that partially funds them. Again, private..not government owned, but receiving government funds. So the fees are greatly reduced. The most common form of charging the patient is called a sliding scale fee. The patient is charged according to their income. So the same procedure done for 2 diff patients costs a diff amount. The lowest pay levels are ridiculously low. Even at the highest level on these pay scales, the fees are WAY less than private practice. They usually offer most services,but access to specialists is limited. Also be prepared for long waiting lists.
LOOK THEM UP ON THE WEB. DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Look up Community Heath Center and add your city, county, state, etc... or look up Community Dental Clinic and add your location.

NO, this isnt a solve everything.
Its just another option .
Good luck.

Dr.S subterfuge@ymail.com
DrS

Aguadilla, Puerto Rico

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#58
Jan 15, 2009
 
Another option.

An option if your dental setuation is very serious... not just cosmetic issues, use your head.
If youre an active member of a church and need urgent treatment, talk to your church leaders. Explain how the situation is afecting your quality of life.

Most Churches will have a dentist among its followers or someone who personally knows one. A dentist who is a believer or at least active church goer is more likely to donate their services than a non church goer.

And yes, money enters the equation, even if the services are free. Although many dentists donate time or services to the needy, most wont. This is because materials and time lost costs them money when they personally provide pro bono services. But if the services are rendered , and correctly documented as a donation, through a church..which is a non profit org... then the dentist can deduct the expenses from his taxes.

The same would apply to any org which is a non profit.

Again this is not for regular treatment, just specific situations.

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Lynn

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Feb 7, 2009
 
If you are reading this you probably have a dental problem, and are needing it done for something cheaper than what you can find in the States. I have had much dental work in my life, mostly good dentists, and some bad. Same in Mexico.(Did not have a good experience with the outfit called Mexican Dental Vacation.) But the idea of researching and finding out a lot can help and give you much peace of mind. I did the dental school clinic here in the states once, I think the actual outcome turned out ok, but the process was tough - you are working with students, and while closely monitored, nothing beats expertise.---
I found that out with an Oral surgeon that extracted an old root canal tooth from me in Mazatlan. His technique was crazy good, and all for $150 bucks!(I had the same surgery done by a US Doc... he knocked me out for it, which I guess is better) but did cost over $1400.
It is good to hear about the dangers of what some have experience with the Sargenti (sp?) so something to ask about with any specialist. Do your research, but I got lucky and found some great docs in Mazatlan (after I left the first clinic), and I would go back. One of my Mexican Dentists even used to study and teach up in Dallas, he seems to run a great practice.
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I went to an American dentist who claimed he was the dentist for the Phoenix Suns. He was one of the worst dentists on the planet. He deliberately left a sharp pointed metal instrument in my mouth while he took a break. He told me to keep my mouth open until he returned, saying, "Don't close your mouth or you'll jam that metal point into your gums. I have to leave it in there for a few minutes." Then he walked out for what seemed like 15 minutes, while my jaw muscles were under severe strain and fatigue.

I should have kicked him between his legs when he returned and then told him, "Just hold your nuts until I get back."
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May 30, 2009
 
I used Dental Bartell in Tijuana 1 800 706 5351 my dentist here said the work was excellent. My bridge work cost about $3,300. with air and hotel and food, the cost here was $ 8,000 These people do mostly Americans and have been around for over 30 years.
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Jun 14, 2009
 
I had some work done at Mexican Dental Vacation as well, in Mazatlan. Funny that there are 3? people on this forum that had experience with them, I guess that is a testament to how much people they treat from the US and Canada.
I had 3 implants, 6 crowns, and some other minor work done,(fillings, bleaching, etc.) at a savings of more than 60% compared to home. I had a great vacation at the same time, and now, about a year and a half, and I have had NO problems with the dental work.
I chose them over other Mexican dentists I was considering, because of their prompt responses, how knowledgeable they were, and how well they explained the procedures to me,(I'm a dummy when it comes to anything dental or medical). Also, their entire staff speaks English.
The owner, Nick Konev, was there during my treatment, and told me that they made many changes to the business, and now everything runs smoothly, and they have a long list of happy customers. I would do it again. The next time I am in Mazatlan, I will stop by for a checkup and to say hi.
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Jun 15, 2009
 
While,we may ex[erience a certain amount of risk going to a new dentist, going to one in a foreign country with a lower standard of living probably exposes the patient to significantly more risk than being treated by a new dentist with a U.S.License.

I have written a post on this subject on my dental blog
http://lspindelnycdds.blogspot.com/2008/12/sh...
Jay

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Feb 16, 2010
 
You get what you pay for wrote:
You know why dentistry is so cheap in Mexico is because they don't have to worry about malpractice insurance. You know why that is, because if they mess up there are no laws for you to be taken care of or reimbursed. So have fun on your Mexican vacation risking your health for a cheaper deal, that is typical of America today, always wanting a deal and something free. At least I know my dentistry here is guaranteed and I will keep my teeth. But I guess if you need cheap dentistry in another country especially Mexico you really don't care about what happens to your teeth! PS to the guy that actually had the nerve to ask his American dentist how the Mexican work was your dentist probably said good job done to get your rude self out of his office. Amazing the complete lack of respect for people these days.
Well, actually suing ANY doctor for ANYTHING will cost you about $70,000 up front with little chance of being awarded anything. So, who cares about if you can sue a Mexican dentist. I'm not saying that American dentists are trying to rip anyone off. They get the prevailing rate for their services. I know so many people, who know so many people who have had work done in Algodones that I could not list them all here. You know how many said that they had any major problems?--zero. I have looked at many crowns (and I am very critical because I'm a retired artist) and I thought that ,cosmetically, the shape, color etc. looked every bit as good as work I have seen that was done in the USA. To be perfectly honest, I have seen some crowns that I didn't like, but, the rest of their teeth were crooked anyway so they went with the territory. Some of the dentists down there specilize in one thing and are therefore very experienced at, for example, root canals. If you go back with a problem they will fix it. Word of mouth is their reputation. Now if you are getting work done in some dumpy little town and paying next to nothing, yea, you might get what you pay for.
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Mar 1, 2010
 
Dentist New York wrote:
While,we may ex[erience a certain amount of risk going to a new dentist, going to one in a foreign country with a lower standard of living probably exposes the patient to significantly more risk than being treated by a new dentist with a U.S.License.
I have written a post on this subject on my dental blog
http://lspindelnycdds.blogspot.com/2008/12/sh...
How 'bout this one-Adolf Hitler was exceedingly terrified of dentists, so he gave a Fuhrer-Order to his personal dentist to extend his root canal treatment over an 8-day period. In only small parts, in other words, until the work was completed. Now that is what I call adental luxury!!!!!!!!!!Any thoughts, Doc?
Erin

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Mar 9, 2010
 
I would like to know what the dental laws that protect Americans are? I have had mercury amalgam put into my mouth against my will and I've had a dentist ground one of my teeth down so far that it looks deformed and no one was taking responsibility or acting concerned. Maybe if I was paying cash instead of on Medicaid, things would have been different.

I spent three hours talking on the phone to a dentist in Mexico last night who was trained in the US and lives in San Diego. This man removes Mercury Amalgam safely (please don't spout your propaganda about how safe and wonderful these fillings are in your mouth. If it comes in a biohazard container and leaves your mouth in a biohazard container, that is all I need to know, regardless of all the research that is not done by the ADA that makes people who think for themselves completely outraged by such American practices!) with really detailed procedures, muscle tests you for biocompatibility of materials, tests your blood for infections, anemia and other conditions and was very well-educated and informed on many dental health related issues. I was very impressed and I'm looking forward to working with him. Its nice to see that there are doctors in Mexico that don't have to cow-tow to the ADA and write papers on how safe mercury is in order to graduate. He is against flouride and mercury and many of the things that I have researched and completely believe. I feel very confident with this man. Especially since he is even willing to help me out on his low prices because I'm so low-income!

Look up Holistic Dentistry in Mexico and I think you will be very impressed by the caliber of dentist you find.

You can also look up Americans practicing in Mexico because many had their licenses revoked for removing the mercury for "health reasons" which the ADA does not allow. These brave dentists stood up for what they believe and have researched and weren't afraid to tell people the truth and educate them. The ADA, however, was afraid.
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Mar 17, 2010
 
My wife was a dentist in an Asian country years ago. To practice in USA she had to pass ADA board tests, got TOFEL over 100 and competed with 100 other foreign dentists for a few seats in a US dental school. She practiced on tooth models in lab with all the other students every day till 11 pm. She never experieced such extensive practicing when she was in her foreign dental school. When she asked her classmate, another foreign dentist if she had such experience in her own country, she said no. They agreed that such usage and waste of materials would never happen in their countries. The reason is simple, they just can not afford it.
So, you may find a good cheap dentist in Mexico. But generally speaking, American dentists are far more extensively trained, both academically and clinicly.
It's just like cars. BMW runs in the same speed as Chev on highway. However, you know the difference if you are the driver.
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Jul 15, 2010
 
Steven_B wrote:
I had some work done at Mexican Dental Vacation as well, in Mazatlan. Funny that there are 3? people on this forum that had experience with them, I guess that is a testament to how much people they treat from the US and Canada.
I had 3 implants, 6 crowns, and some other minor work done,(fillings, bleaching, etc.) at a savings of more than 60% compared to home. I had a great vacation at the same time, and now, about a year and a half, and I have had NO problems with the dental work.
I chose them over other Mexican dentists I was considering, because of their prompt responses, how knowledgeable they were, and how well they explained the procedures to me,(I'm a dummy when it comes to anything dental or medical). Also, their entire staff speaks English.
The owner, Nick Konev, was there during my treatment, and told me that they made many changes to the business, and now everything runs smoothly, and they have a long list of happy customers. I would do it again. The next time I am in Mazatlan, I will stop by for a checkup and to say hi.
Steve- I'm glad to hear you had such good results with " Mexican Dental Vacations " in Mazatlan -- I'm one of the unhappy customers of theirs and although their website shows changes including a move, I see they still have the dentist that treated me. Although I strongly believe you can get top notch dental services in Mexico--- I can not recommend this place at all. They recently acknowledged a refund they promised to me and it was almost funny. Nick contacted me 3 years after by saying they will pay me back the money I paid up front-- but only if I go through all forums and remove any criticisms of them. Nick Konev is not an honorable person. I imagine if you hung out much in Mazatlan you would find a number of business people that would agree. The Canadian dentist he hired tried to revive the MDV practice was totally frustrated as well. For others interested in affordable dental care, keep researching other options.... you can find much better dentists and specialists in Mazatlan. Don't worry, you will find plenty that speak english and will take the time to explain everything to you. Again Steve - you sound like you had a great experience with Mexican Dental Vacation (so much so it is almost hard for me to believe...) but I am happy for you. I've heard from several others that were not so lucky.
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Aug 2, 2010
 
WOW! I think I would rather suffer with the pain than head to another country were they are not govern by our types of laws. Especially when there is places in the US that would help you out. Most dentists will work with you if you have a dental insurance card. Finding one is not hard either. I got one and now the dentist takes payments.
Good dentist

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#74
Aug 21, 2010
 
Corparate America is the problem. The high outrageous prices is what drives people to look else where to the extent to go to another country. It's very ego centric to say that dentist in Mexico are not qualified there are some that are and those that are not just like in the U.S. I have gone to both unfortunetly in the u.s I was forced to go to a dentist which my insurance approved of, thus the service and attention i received was poor in the U.S while in Mexico I had an excellent dentist who did the job!
You get what you pay for wrote:
You know why dentistry is so cheap in Mexico is because they don't have to worry about malpractice insurance. You know why that is, because if they mess up there are no laws for you to be taken care of or reimbursed. So have fun on your Mexican vacation risking your health for a cheaper deal, that is typical of America today, always wanting a deal and something free. At least I know my dentistry here is guaranteed and I will keep my teeth. But I guess if you need cheap dentistry in another country especially Mexico you really don't care about what happens to your teeth! PS to the guy that actually had the nerve to ask his American dentist how the Mexican work was your dentist probably said good job done to get your rude self out of his office. Amazing the complete lack of respect for people these days.

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