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Strokes caused by neck manipulation

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Did you know that chiropractic neck manipulation is the number one cause of strokes in North American women under the age of 45? It's true. Find out more by going to www.chiropracticstroke.com .

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Mar 27, 2008
 
Did you know that 65% of all statistics are made up on the spot, and that number jumps to 97% when they are posted on the internet? It's true. Find out more by going to www.how-pathetic-could-this-be.com .
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Did you know that the entire clinical experience for a chiropractic student consists of 10 - 15 patients with limited back and nack conditions?

Find out the truth at www.chirotalk.com

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Mar 28, 2008
 
wisdom wrote:
Did you know that the entire clinical experience for a chiropractic student consists of 10 - 15 patients with limited back and nack conditions?
Find out the truth at www.chirotalk.com
Did you know that wisdum has no clue what he is talking about? Minimum patient load in order to graduate from a CCE accredited college is 20 with at least 15 of those being "outpatients" - meaning they are NOT friends and family, and they have whatever conditions they come in with.

Keep trying though wisdum ... I'm sure if you tell your self enough times that you know more about chiropractic than I do you might even convince yourself that it's true.
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Nucca, you may be able to BS someone that dopes not know about chiropractic college...but those "out patients" can, and many times are, family and friends.

Stop BSing for once.
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Wisdom wrote:
Nucca, you may be able to BS someone that dopes not know about chiropractic college...but those "out patients" can, and many times are, family and friends.
Stop BSing for once.
Since you truley know about chiropractic then explain to me how so many students at a chiropractic college can get 20 friends and family in for three to five visits.

If the college only had 1,000 students and 25 of them had to get this number in and most students do not live close to home then 25 X 20 would have to come in since these could not overlap (as in my school). That makes 500 people per given quarter or 166.7 people per month must travel, make arrangements to come in and pay for the visit. This roughly averages out to 10K per student to graduate at minimum. Sorry there is not enough loan money for that. Not to mention your friends are the ones that attend the school and do not count as out patient visits and your Parents do not count as out patient visits! If your think parents, kids, brothers and sisters, wives count then you are truely living in outdated times!

It is easier said out of 20 patients 2 are friends, 2 are family and 16 are people that the DC2B meets and brings in for care. Granted this is nothing compared to the problems faced once on your own but then you always have more experienced friends to call upon for experinced advice!
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Bdc, have trouble reading? I said many are family and friends and almost all are paople with limited back and neck conditions.

But thanks for making my point that the chiropractic clinical experience is woefully pathetic.

Indeed, its a JOKE. But you're too ignorant to understand that.

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Mar 29, 2008
 
I guess in wisdum's world, "many" = 4.

And the fact that you didn't know that you have to have handled at least 20 separate patients doesn't lend a whole lot of credibility to your BS claim of knowing more then any DC about chiropractic education.

I'm sure that won't stop you though, will it wisdum?
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Mar 29, 2008
 
Not all chiro colleges are 20.

Like I said, you know very ittle compared to me.

But nucca, thank you also for admitting your clinical experience was also woefully pathetic.

20 patients...what a joke. And you too, are too ignorant to know that.
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Mar 30, 2008
 
GET ADJUSTED!!!!! YOU NEED IT
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Mar 31, 2008
 
You'd make a good chiro....their motto is "everyone needs to be adjusted".

Its so silly.
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Mar 31, 2008
 
You're funny....heeheehee.....get adjusted, you need it!
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Mar 31, 2008
 
Don't you think that you would see a high occurance of stroke in chiro students if this were the case? When we first start out we obviously don't have the best technique and well you'd think that all that practicing we do on one another...without doing the correct procedure, well, I just think you'd see more strokes in chiro students. There hasn't been one on record from my school, that I can find anyway. Also, we always work on eachother never on a practice piece and I would say 15% of my school are middle aged men and women. It's just a thought but I would just think you'd see more strokes at schools than anywhere else if this were the case.
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Apr 1, 2008
 
Student boy...its time for you to man-up and let these fellow quackers here know that the subluxation is a bunch of hooey.

But you won't. Coward.
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Apr 1, 2008
 
Why would I be afraid to disagree with the subluxation theory? I don't think that I have to explain my beliefs to anyone to tell you the truth. Also my comment had nothing to do with a subluxation, I was talking about strokes. I'm just not sure why you won't engage in any sort of real conversation. It's fine that you hate chiros and it's fine that you publish these pathetically written articles in your websites. I think its important for the public to get both views on chiropractic, and then let them decide who they would like to believe. I'd really just like to hear something somewhat intelligent come from you, not just this quack BS. Throw some decent points out there at least. Also I'm not 100% what you are arguing anyway, just the subluxation theory or chiropractic in general. Also I'm not quite a boy anymore either, I'm a little older than the avg. student.
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Apr 1, 2008
 
Oh answer my question from before as well as why we don't see the higher occurance of stroke in schools. I'm anxious to hear what you're opinion on that is as well.
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Apr 1, 2008
 
I never said chiros cause strokes. There are studies, however, that claim they do.

Of course when an activator, nucca, or sot chiropractor treats a patient, they're not doing anything anyway so I'm quite sure they are not causing strokes. Scamming patients yes, causing strokes..prpobably not.

All of the 200+ chiropractic techniques are the most bizarre things anyone has ever heard of.

For you to defend them, puts you in the quack category as well. Face it, you're a subluxation believing nut like the rest of them. You're just too much of a coward to admit it.

Get out now before its too late. You've been warned.

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Apr 1, 2008
 
Wisdom wrote:
I never said chiros cause strokes. There are studies, however, that claim they do.
Of course when an activator, nucca, or sot chiropractor treats a patient, they're not doing anything anyway so I'm quite sure they are not causing strokes. Scamming patients yes, causing strokes..prpobably not.
All of the 200+ chiropractic techniques are the most bizarre things anyone has ever heard of.
For you to defend them, puts you in the quack category as well. Face it, you're a subluxation believing nut like the rest of them. You're just too much of a coward to admit it.
Get out now before its too late. You've been warned.
Funny how in 1 thread, you complain that NUCCA chiropractors are not limiting their practice to BP patients (because there is evidence that an upper cervical correction lowers BP), and then in this thread NUCCA chiros don't do anything.

You really should pick 1 story and stick with it if you are going to be irrational, Wisdum ... it leaves you with at least a TINY bit of credibility.
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Apr 1, 2008
 
Credibility? Wisdom? No way man! He hasn't brought up one credible point yet. There are no legitimate studies that say chiros "cause" strokes, hell there's not even a study that says we are ineffective at palliative care! Also I don't need you to WARN me of anything, you should be warned to never let anyone find out who you really are. Sounds to me like you're a chiro school dropout/failure and now you're bitter about it! You also don't need to tell me what exactly I believe in. I honestly don't need to believe in the term "SUBLUXATION" to be a good doctor. You need to update your knowledge of whats being taught in school these days little man, your slacking in the intelligence department. I just love you fools that think you're making a difference in the fight against chiropractic, silly little boys, we're not going anywhere.
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Apr 1, 2008
 
hey Dum.... GET ADJUSTED ALREADY. you might just like it. Come on....try it. Get your spine adjusted and your pi$$y attitude too......Dummmmmmm Dee Dum Dum Dummmmmmmm
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