Government (veterans) health care better than private

savage slayer wrote:

<quoted text>maybe we can all become wards of the state, if the government gets their way every taxpayer will see an increase, but guess what, the non producers like you and fu wont, you will continue to leech off of the producers. what will you do if the producers quit producing??? THIS IS PROOF THAT LIBERALS CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT CONSERVATIVES, BUT WE CAN DEFINATELY LIVE WITHOUT YOU. SO GET OFF MY BACK AND GET A JOB, AND QUIT RELYING ON UNCLE OBAMA TO TAKE FROM ME TO GIVE TO YOUR SORRY A S S!!!!!!!!

So savage says all 100% service connected veterans are non producers and leaches. See what type of person he is? He's a slime ball who thinks that veterans who risk their lives for their country are leaches! The same people he relies on to protect him and his own are leaches! He says it himself. He says I'm a non producer and a leach due to my U.S. Army disability and government granted health care due to my disability. Trust me...when I was 17 and joined the Army, if I had realized that the type of people I would be expected to defend were like savage I would have run the other way. Scum bags like him who only care about himself and are too lazy to join the service and lets others risk their lives to protect him and the country he takes for granted are the real problem in this country!
But at least he has shown his true colors now and we can all see what type of POS he truly is.
And his liberal rant has just gone right out the window. He takes all the time. he allows others to fight wars for him. police officers to protect him. laws to protect him. He draws of the system indirectly constantly but is to tight wadded to help others less fortunate. What a hypocrite!

Really Now wrote:

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EXACTLY. He is in the same boat that a lot of other people are in. Your story is the very definition of irony.
Here you are ranting and raving every day, spamming these boards with your ridiculous lies and misinformation about the evils of socialized medicine, yet it your own father had to leave the US and go to a country with socialized medicine to get care.
Your story just goes to prove how messed up the private insurance industry in America is.

He did not come to Mexico for health care.
He came here to die.....
That is what the doctors told him.....
Go home and make your will.

Why would he need insurance?
He had goverment care...

Former Ukiahan wrote:

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So savage says all 100% service connected veterans are non producers and leaches. See what type of person he is? He's a slime ball who thinks that veterans who risk their lives for their country are leaches! The same people he relies on to protect him and his own are leaches! He says it himself. He says I'm a non producer and a leach due to my U.S. Army disability and government granted health care due to my disability. Trust me...when I was 17 and joined the Army, if I had realized that the type of people I would be expected to defend were like savage I would have run the other way. Scum bags like him who only care about himself and are too lazy to join the service and lets others risk their lives to protect him and the country he takes for granted are the real problem in this country!
But at least he has shown his true colors now and we can all see what type of POS he truly is.
And his liberal rant has just gone right out the window. He takes all the time. he allows others to fight wars for him. police officers to protect him. laws to protect him. He draws of the system indirectly constantly but is to tight wadded to help others less fortunate. What a hypocrite!

So why don't you answer the questions???

Former Ukiahan wrote:

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So savage says all 100% service connected veterans are non producers and leaches. See what type of person he is? He's a slime ball who thinks that veterans who risk their lives for their country are leaches! The same people he relies on to protect him and his own are leaches! He says it himself. He says I'm a non producer and a leach due to my U.S. Army disability and government granted health care due to my disability. Trust me...when I was 17 and joined the Army, if I had realized that the type of people I would be expected to defend were like savage I would have run the other way. Scum bags like him who only care about himself and are too lazy to join the service and lets others risk their lives to protect him and the country he takes for granted are the real problem in this country!
But at least he has shown his true colors now and we can all see what type of POS he truly is.
And his liberal rant has just gone right out the window. He takes all the time. he allows others to fight wars for him. police officers to protect him. laws to protect him. He draws of the system indirectly constantly but is to tight wadded to help others less fortunate. What a hypocrite!

beautiful spin job!!leeches that i am referring to and have always referred to are the losers that have their handout waiting for government to take from the producers and give to the non producers. it is this marxist agenda im against, like i have consistantly said, like most americans.all of obamas buddies are radical communists that are trying to ram their marxist agenda down our throat. if you are truly a vet that fought for our freedom and , why do you support this dictator commy prez?by the way, thanks.

so what will you do if the producers quit producing? then what smart guy. move to china.

Former Ukiahan wrote:

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So savage says all 100% service connected veterans are non producers and leaches. See what type of person he is? He's a slime ball who thinks that veterans who risk their lives for their country are leaches! The same people he relies on to protect him and his own are leaches! He says it himself. He says I'm a non producer and a leach due to my U.S. Army disability and government granted health care due to my disability. Trust me...when I was 17 and joined the Army, if I had realized that the type of people I would be expected to defend were like savage I would have run the other way. Scum bags like him who only care about himself and are too lazy to join the service and lets others risk their lives to protect him and the country he takes for granted are the real problem in this country!
But at least he has shown his true colors now and we can all see what type of POS he truly is.
And his liberal rant has just gone right out the window. He takes all the time. he allows others to fight wars for him. police officers to protect him. laws to protect him. He draws of the system indirectly constantly but is to tight wadded to help others less fortunate. What a hypocrite!

wow, just because i know you are a wasted, braindead, sandlewearing hippy lib thta supports a marxist prez, does not mean that i lump all people of service in your same mold. you are truly one of a kind.

Former Ukiahan wrote:

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So savage says all 100% service connected veterans are non producers and leaches. See what type of person he is? He's a slime ball who thinks that veterans who risk their lives for their country are leaches! The same people he relies on to protect him and his own are leaches! He says it himself. He says I'm a non producer and a leach due to my U.S. Army disability and government granted health care due to my disability. Trust me...when I was 17 and joined the Army, if I had realized that the type of people I would be expected to defend were like savage I would have run the other way. Scum bags like him who only care about himself and are too lazy to join the service and lets others risk their lives to protect him and the country he takes for granted are the real problem in this country!
But at least he has shown his true colors now and we can all see what type of POS he truly is.
And his liberal rant has just gone right out the window. He takes all the time. he allows others to fight wars for him. police officers to protect him. laws to protect him. He draws of the system indirectly constantly but is to tight wadded to help others less fortunate. What a hypocrite!

only someone with the brain capacity of a toilet bug would try to demonize someone by lumping all vets as one. in my opinion , you would be a great disgrace to most vets. keep on smoking you pro drug, anti american braindead lib. stick to the subject.

Former Ukiahan wrote:

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So savage says all 100% service connected veterans are non producers and leaches. See what type of person he is? He's a slime ball who thinks that veterans who risk their lives for their country are leaches! The same people he relies on to protect him and his own are leaches! He says it himself. He says I'm a non producer and a leach due to my U.S. Army disability and government granted health care due to my disability. Trust me...when I was 17 and joined the Army, if I had realized that the type of people I would be expected to defend were like savage I would have run the other way. Scum bags like him who only care about himself and are too lazy to join the service and lets others risk their lives to protect him and the country he takes for granted are the real problem in this country!
But at least he has shown his true colors now and we can all see what type of POS he truly is.
And his liberal rant has just gone right out the window. He takes all the time. he allows others to fight wars for him. police officers to protect him. laws to protect him. He draws of the system indirectly constantly but is to tight wadded to help others less fortunate. What a hypocrite!

Where did he say that?

Why don't yo answer my questions?

Really Now wrote:

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EXACTLY. He is in the same boat that a lot of other people are in. Your story is the very definition of irony.
Here you are ranting and raving every day, spamming these boards with your ridiculous lies and misinformation about the evils of socialized medicine, yet it your own father had to leave the US and go to a country with socialized medicine to get care.
Your story just goes to prove how messed up the private insurance industry in America is.

Ranting and raving??????????
That would be you.

I post facts that you don’t like.
I ask question that you won’t answer.

Why don’t you answer them?
Because you know I am right……………Period…………
So who is the spammer?????

You want everyone in the USA to have government care.
And obamacare will insure that there will be no private care.

My dad had to leave the USA because he had GOVERNMENT CARE YOU FOOL……….

You just made my point…………..
The government care is not any good.
Because he had government care he did not buy private insurance.
And when the government sent him home to die he came to Mexico.

AND FOOLS LIKE YOU WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE GOVERNMENT CARE…………

So why won’t you answer my questions?
Why won’t ONE congress person or Senators answer my questions?
Even after telling them I would campaign 100% for any bill that would lower the cost of health care to the USA.
They can’t answer and neither can you.
Because it won’t……………….

Dead like me wrote:

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Ranting and raving??????????
That would be you.
I post facts that you don’t like.
I ask question that you won’t answer.
Why don’t you answer them?
Because you know I am right……………Period…………
So who is the spammer?????
You want everyone in the USA to have government care.
And obamacare will insure that there will be no private care.
My dad had to leave the USA because he had GOVERNMENT CARE YOU FOOL……….
You just made my point…………..
The government care is not any good.
Because he had government care he did not buy private insurance.
And when the government sent him home to die he came to Mexico.
AND FOOLS LIKE YOU WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE GOVERNMENT CARE…………
So why won’t you answer my questions?
Why won’t ONE congress person or Senators answer my questions?
Even after telling them I would campaign 100% for any bill that would lower the cost of health care to the USA.
They can’t answer and neither can you.
Because it won’t……………….

Ten out of the top 100 threads in the UDJ forum are anti-health care reform threads started by none other than you. Your threads now seem to even outnumber the marijuana related ones. That sure is a lot of noise to be coming form one person. Very odd indeed...

You have been constantly starting these threads and then, for the most part, having a conversation with yourself. This has been going on for what, a week now? Even stranger...

Why is someone who now lives in another country so concerned about where his US tax dollars go? Even if you did live here before, you don't now, which means you aren't paying any taxes now. Seems a bit contradictory...

Plus, who the heck has time to spend all day, for days on end, posting and arguing with people on topix? Certainly not someone who has a normal job. Most certainly not one of the millions of people who are barely scraping by and cannot afford health care or one of the millions who simply cannot get it due to previous conditions. Very suspicious...

You also apparently forgot to change your name when responding to this last post, revealing that you are indeed posting under multiple names. Now that would appear to be just down-right dishonest. Why would you do such a thing for any other reason than manipulation?

Your story doesn't quite add up... Your arguments most certainly do not add up. For someone that claims to not have anything to gain from opposing health care reform, your behavior is very strange, and I would say, down-right suspicious....

So what's the deal "Here is one"? Are you just one pissed off dude with OCD and way too much time to kill, or is something else going on?

Hmmmm wrote:

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Ten out of the top 100 threads in the UDJ forum are anti-health care reform threads started by none other than you. Your threads now seem to even outnumber the marijuana related ones. That sure is a lot of noise to be coming form one person.
So what's the deal "Here is one"? Are you just one **** off dude with OCD and way too much time to kill, or is something else going on?

I enjoy posting current and relevant news stories.
Health care is the top news story today.
Call it odd………that is your right….
Conversation with myself?
So I am also really now or some of the other people that have never read the bill or even have a clue what it is about?
I have reposted to post with new information only.
Show me conversations with myself.
April 15 2009 I sent obama close to 40k…………….
Tell me how that is contradictory??????????
I also have lots of friends and family that still live in the USA.
I have dual citizenship so I am still an American.
I retired in my late 30s. My wife than ran a retail store in Ukiah for ten years.
It started out as a little business than grew until her hobby was an 80 hour per week job.
I told her enough is enough and we closed the doors and moved to Mexico
I am in my late 40s and enjoy my kids.
I also enjoy pointing out how many people in this world have become sheepoles.
Have you read the 1035 pages of the bill I am talking about?
I was the first to post a copy of it here for all to read.
And by peoples post it is evident they have not read a word of it.
Yet they post on and on about how good it is.
And I love my new blackberry it allows me to post from the beach or pool.
Every once in a while I post from a friends office in the Marina.
He posts on many Vallarta blogs and I forgot to change the name.
Throw me in jail will you.
Dishonest………..mmmmmmmmmmmm
I have seen your writing style under many different names.
As I posted many time here before I do have something to gain IF THE BILL PASSES………….
THAT MEANS IF THE BILL PASSES THAT I AM FIGHTING I STAND TO MAKE MORE THAN 100K PER YEAR PROFIT.
And do it from the comfort of my blackberry.
If you have not read how I will do this just ask and I will give you a brief description of my new hobby project..
No.
I started working full time in the summer between 5 and 6 grades for my father.
I had my first real job at age 12 in Willits.
Before I graduated high school I owned 5 rentals that were paid in full
I bought them with my money…….Not one penny from my parents.
The only thing they did was sign for me as I was under 18.
Two in the Valley Oaks trailer park and three in the Wagon Wheel trailer park.
I bought old trailers cheap and fixed them up and made them nice.
The ones in Valley Oaks were supposed to be moved as they were in bad shape.
I spoke with Jack Frost (really that was his name) and asked if I made them look as good as or BETTER than the rest could they stay.
He said yes
I made a four wheel trailer out of two bicycles and pulled it with my Schwinn Varsity 10 speed.
I hauled lumber and supplies in and out.
I had the nicest yards.
Built split rail fences
I put in new floors, fixed the roofs, re-paneled the insides and painted the out sides
I had work experience at school so I got out at noon and went to my job until six on week days.
Saturdays I worked 8 am to 6 pm so I fixed these houses up in the evenings in the rain and in the dark.
I worked Sundays before the sun came up until my curfew at 9pm.
I get sick and tired of people that are two dam lazy to get an ahead in life and want me to pay their way.
BS………Grow some balls and make your own dam way………….
Now I answered your question.
Someone please answer mine………….