Thousands Line Up for Promise of Free Health Care

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JRobert wrote:

Typical whiny liberal piece from the New York Times. Tug at the heartstrings instead of maturely discussing solutions.
We don't have to dismantle a functioning healthcare system that the vast majority of Americans like in order to cover a small percentage who don't have coverage.

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Lance Winslow wrote:

<quoted text>If you have health insurance or if you pay your medical bills out of pocket, you are covering the unpaid costs of the un-insured when they can't attend free clinics. This would not be a problem if there were only a few of them. It's not a "vast majority" any more and it's not a "small percentage".

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Lance Winslow wrote:

<quoted text>It's not a "vast majority" any more and it's not a "small percentage".

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Lance Winslow wrote:

<quoted text>If you have health insurance or if you pay your medical bills out of pocket, you are covering the unpaid costs of the un-insured when they can't attend free clinics. This would not be a problem if there were only a few of them. It's not a "vast majority" any more and it's not a "small percentage".

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JRobert wrote:

Typical whiny liberal piece from the New York Times. Tug at the heartstrings instead of maturely discussing solutions.
We don't have to dismantle a functioning healthcare system that the vast majority of Americans like in order to cover a small percentage who don't have coverage.

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The laughing liberal wrote:

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Better wake up. Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Michigan is losing Money because they are forced to accept any applicant under.
Since their employers are cutting benefits to stay afloat which dumps people into the public BC/BS option, they are adding the most frequent, most sick users, and Unemployment is skyrocketing, The Insurance Corp is losing money BUT THEY ARE RAISING RATES ACROSS THE BOARD so this is essentially a TAX INCREASE to pay for other peoples problems.
http://www.bcbsm.com/pdf/annual_report2008fin...
This is the same mess Obama is pimping. NO THANKS!

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JRobert wrote:

Typical whiny liberal piece from the New York Times. Tug at the heartstrings instead of maturely discussing solutions.
We don't have to dismantle a functioning healthcare system that the vast majority of Americans like in order to cover a small percentage who don't have coverage.

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J Barrett Wolf wrote:

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A mature discussion? You mean lies about death panels and euthanasia???
Small minority uninsured...? Try about one in seven people. 50 MILLION.
If you are going to make statements, it helps if you check your facts before making inaccurate and simply preposterous assertions.

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Pig Alley Musketeer wrote:

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You're right, it does help to check your facts.
According to the Census Bureau at least half of the "50 MILLION" are illegal, um, "undocumented workers" and people who CHOOSE not to carry HC insurance.
Maybe you shouldn't get your "facts" from Moore's "Sicko" or the Daily Kos.

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Lance Winslow wrote:

<quoted text>If you have health insurance or if you pay your medical bills out of pocket, you are covering the unpaid costs of the un-insured when they can't attend free clinics. This would not be a problem if there were only a few of them. It's not a "vast majority" any more and it's not a "small percentage".

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ppk007 wrote:

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Actually, the "facts" have been so manipulated that it is difficult to determine how many people are un-insured. Allow me to explain -- very recently (the last few years) many insurance companies have been offering "low cost" ($20-$60) a month "health insurance" to low income families. So my question -- are these people "counted" as having health insurance -- because if they are, it is a joke -- that type of "health insurance" is nothing more than a coupon book for small discounts -- it covers almost nothing. I pay over $900.00 a month for my family's health insurance -- it's rather good insurance. I qualify myself as insured -- but for those families buying the "low cost" plans -- they are NOT. These "low cost" plans are just a "dog and pony Show" by the insurance industry in an attempt to articifically lower how many people are count as "uninsured".

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workerbeedrone wrote:

I apologize up front from cross posting this article. This is the second thread I've posted it to and I don't usually do that.
This is a recent study published in the American Medical Journal showing that over 60% of U.S. bankruptcies in 2007 were due directly to medical costs (over double the percentage in 2001). And furthermore, 75% of those that went bankrupt due to medical causes had medical insurance.
http://www.pnhp.org/new_bankruptcy_study/Bank...
On the surface, we should do something about it. Or we could wait until it's 80% or 90% of bankruptcies. At this rate that should be the case right around 2012.

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ppk007 wrote:

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Over 40 million out of 300 million people without health insurance AND even with the ones that do have health insurance -- with lifetime cap limits -- they can easily find themselves without insurance during a major health emergency. Many people are complaining that Obama's plan will put restrictions on health care -- they argue this in a fashion like the health insurance companies DO NOT have restrictions and limitations.