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Surprising fact: Half of gun deaths are suicides

The Supreme Court's landmark ruling on gun ownership last week focused on citizens' ability to defend themselves from intruders in their homes.

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So, let's see now,,,,,,, I'm supposed to relinquish my Second Amendment rights because if I don't someone may commit suicide? If the anti-gun rights community is really concerned they would stop spending their resources on trying to take my rights away and re-direct their funds to counseling programs for people who are at risk. Just for kicks let's see how many people are willing to scrap the First Amendement so that Assisted Suicide groups can't spread information in the form of "How To" guides. I thought so,,, not many takers out there.
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Bill Conners, why do you need a gun so badly? You shoot criminals in your spare time? You and your gun are useless fossilized throwbacks to an era where anthrax and AC-130 gunships were pipe dreams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

I bet your pistol is a big match for that, right? Get into the next century, or if you're stuck on mandated laws are such because they are written down, how about the one that says "Thou shall not kill".

You're an ape.
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This is why there are laws prohibiting mentally ill people from owning guns, thereby hindering many veterans who need help with service related problems. The whole conundrum needs public attention and education.
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Too bad the other half, the criminals, don't commit suicide also.

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two percent were legal killings, such as when police shoot and kill.

It doesn't say how many of 40 percent that were homicides were with illegal guns.

The second amendment is important to me, although I do not own a gun. If I ever feel I need one, I am able to legally own one and I will get safety training and shooting training if I do.

I have and do know people that own guns. All of those I know take gun ownership seriously, and have been trained.
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Feel the Apathy in Delray wrote:
which is why we need to repeal the 2nd amendment, and edit the first amendment. can you believe we STILL operate under some old dusty document scrawled together by old, racist white men ... 230 plus years ago?
Why not scrap the 1st & 4th too? Can't believe lunkheads still can't see the importance of the 2nd Amendment.

“Islam =terrorist orginazation”

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boss hogg wrote:
Bill Conners, why do you need a gun so badly? You shoot criminals in your spare time? You and your gun are useless fossilized throwbacks to an era where anthrax and AC-130 gunships were pipe dreams.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I bet your pistol is a big match for that, right? Get into the next century, or if you're stuck on mandated laws are such because they are written down, how about the one that says "Thou shall not kill".
You're an ape.
An armed society is a POLITE society, a unarmed society is SLAVES...try reading history, and NOT the liberal revisionist crap they teach now.

“Stay Safe”

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There is no relationship between the number of guns and suicides. The number of guns has been increasing over the years, while the number of suicides has remained flat. See link.

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvsupp.h...

For more evidence that guns do not cause suicide, consider Japan. Guns are virtually nonexistent and they have a higher suicide rate than the US.
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Feel the Apathy in Delray wrote:
Guns are a menace. most deaths are either accidents, suicides, or a self defense loser getting their own weapon used on them.
You are a menace. A loser who denies the value of a gun as a self defense tool
Feel the Apathy in Delray wrote:
and we NEED to edit the 1st amendment so it doesn't apply to the internet. the FF never envisioned hate boards like this.
Well, you've been contributing more than your share of hate with your ilk.
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Feel the Apathy in Delray wrote:
which is why we need to repeal the 2nd amendment, and edit the first amendment. can you believe we STILL operate under some old dusty document scrawled together by old, racist white men ... 230 plus years ago?
Get out of our country scumbag.
Chavez is looking for good stooges like you.
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"Daddy, did you know that 65,000 people are killed every year by handguns?"

"Would you feel any better, little goil, if they was all pushed out of windows??"

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boss hogg wrote:
Bill Conners, why do you need a gun so badly? You shoot criminals in your spare time? You and your gun are useless fossilized throwbacks to an era where anthrax and AC-130 gunships were pipe dreams.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I bet your pistol is a big match for that, right? Get into the next century, or if you're stuck on mandated laws are such because they are written down, how about the one that says "Thou shall not kill".
You're an ape.
Earth to hogg, you are about a hundred thousand times more likely to be the victim of an armed criminal than a terrorist with anthrax or AC-130.

Go take your meds, you aren't making any sense.
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Velma wrote:
"Daddy, did you know that 65,000 people are killed every year by handguns?"
"Would you feel any better, little goil, if they was all pushed out of windows??"
Another distortion from the mind of Norman Lear.
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Feel the Apathy in Delray wrote:
Guns are a menace. most deaths are either accidents, suicides, or a self defense loser getting their own weapon used on them.
and we NEED to edit the 1st amendment so it doesn't apply to the internet. the FF never envisioned hate boards like this.
No, retarded people like you are a menace, and the first amendment should be altered to keep you retarded people from opening their pie-holes.
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Public-health researchers have concluded that in homes where guns are present, the likelihood that someone in the home will die from suicide or homicide is much greater.

Studies have also shown that homes in which a suicide occurred were three to five times more likely to have a gun present than households that did not experience a suicide, even after accounting for other risk factors.
I see the media are still too stupid to stop citing the long-debunked research fraud perpetrated on us, with funding by CDC, of Dr. Arthur Kellerman, a gun-control zealot.

This article later claims that the Kleck research has been cited as flawed, but does not mention the well-known flaws of the very research that is the basis of the article's main premise -- that having a gun in the home is linked to higher suicide rates.

First of all, the above quote does not even say that the suicides are committed using those guns! For all we know, the research found that suicides take places in homes that have guns, but are committed using drug overdoses! Correlation does not demonstrate causation, but that's exactly what is implied by this article.

I'll bet that in addition to having guns, those people had two nostrils! OMG, it's dangerous to have two nostrils--possession of two nostrils is linked to 100% of all suicides!
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God Save The Republic wrote:
There is no relationship between the number of guns and suicides. The number of guns has been increasing over the years, while the number of suicides has remained flat. See link.
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvsupp.h...
For more evidence that guns do not cause suicide, consider Japan. Guns are virtually nonexistent and they have a higher suicide rate than the US.
WAY higher.

And the mayor of Nagasaki himself was shot dead on the street by a Yakuza member over damage to his car that he believed the city bore responsibility for.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/17/wor...

So, isn't it amazing that in a country that prides itself on its gun control, the suicide rate is higher than anywhere, AND they can't even keep the mayor safe from murder by a Yakuza member?!
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Are you a DEMOCRAP, REPUBLICAN OR REDNECK?

Here is a little test that will help you decide. The answer can be found by posing the following question:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children.

Suddenly, an Islamic Terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you,
screams obscenities, praises Allah, raises the knife, and charges at you.

You are carrying a Kimber 1911 cal. 45 ACP, and you are an expert shot.

You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?


DEMOCRAPS Answer :

Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!

Does the man look poor or oppressed?

Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?

Could we run away?

What does my wife think?

What about the kids?

Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand?

What does the law say about this situation?

Does the pistol have appropriate safety built into it?

Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children?

Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?

Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me?

If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me?

Should I call 9-1-1?

Why is this street so deserted?

We need to raise taxes, have paint and weed day and make this happier, healthier street that
would discourage such behavior.

This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for few days and try to come to a consensus.

REPUBLICANS Answer:

BANG!

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REDNECKS Answer:

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG !

Click ......(Sounds of reloading)

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!

Click ......

Daughter:'Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver Tips or Hydrashocks?!'

Son:'Can I shoot the next one?!'

Wife:'You ain't taking that to the Taxidermist’
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boss hogg wrote:
Bill Conners, why do you need a gun so badly? You shoot criminals in your spare time? You and your gun are useless fossilized throwbacks to an era where anthrax and AC-130 gunships were pipe dreams.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I bet your pistol is a big match for that, right? Get into the next century, or if you're stuck on mandated laws are such because they are written down, how about the one that says "Thou shall not kill".
You're an ape.
If you think that 300,000,000 guns held by 80,000,000 private citizens would be no good against an military made up of about 1.5 million people, you are the ape.

Not to mention that "Thou shalt not kill" does NOT apply to cases of self-defense by the innocent. "Thou shalt not kill" is an oft-repeated MIS-translation of "Thou shalt not MURDER."

The bible commands killing in certain cases, and authorizes the use of force in defense of self. YOU are clearly the ape-idiot here.

Can 1.5 million military members live, eat, bathe and sleep inside C-130s and tanks? Do they never have to emerge? Does the army have its own food production plants, and fuel production plants, or does it depend on supply lines that can be hit by guerrillas? Would there be ZERO DESERTIONS by military members who were unwilling to fire on fellow Americans in Main Street, U.S.A.? Would none of the deserters take military ordnance with them, or be able to use and instruct in the use of captured military equipment as the "war" went on?

Shortsighted and propagandized does not even begin to describe you, schmuck.
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Fact: Most gun deaths involve guns.
Bonus fact: Most stabbings involve knives.
Double bonus fact: Most women with black eyes didn't listen the first time.

“Stay Safe”

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Honch wrote:
Fact: Most gun deaths involve guns.
Bonus fact: Most stabbings involve knives.
Double bonus fact: Most women with black eyes didn't listen the first time.
Don't quit your day job. You will not make it as a comedian.
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