Letter: Marijuana just like other painkillers

It really bugs me this paper publishes a completely erroneous letter like this. Opiates do not treat pain by getting one so stoned they do not feel anything. Also, marijuana is a terrible painkiller.

I have some chronic pain issues, but I use neither opiates or pot. Tramadol has worked great for me and there are other nonnarcotic drugs out there. We need to get doctors and patients out of the habit of prescribing opiates. We also need to jail doctors writing medical pot prescriptions.

kitterman,,you are a dipstick.

Ultram makes me nauseous. Vicodins, or Oxy's make me too drugged up to be productive. I can vaporize some medical marijuana and still do everything that I need to do in a day. Different strokes for different folks.

So let's just forget about the FDA and all the safeguards society has put in place to minimize the harms of drug abuse. Eugene O'Neill's Long Day's Journey into Night is based on his mother's morphine addiction before such safeguards existed. Alcohol, opiates, and marijuana can be addictive and have other health hazards, so recreational and medical use should not be confused. If you get a toothache, you need a few painkillers, but going through life in a perpetual fog is a different story.

"Getting stoned to the point of not feeling anything? Isn't that the point of taking Vicodin, Oxycodone and all the other prescription drugs, to take your mind off whatever makes you hurt?"

If getting stoned is why you are taking a prescription drugs pot is an alternative because that's all pot does. It doesn't work for real pain. You still have the pain only now you are stoned. Unless you are abusing your pain meds you are not getting stoned. The trouble with the pain meds is that even ones that cannot get you stoned like tramadol have physical addiction with long term use. Someday when you stop taking them you will pay a price in withdrawal and they will not cover pain forever.

" There are millions of taxpaying Americans who think pot helps them cope with their own aches and pains"

And there you have it they "think" pot helps them. Does that matter? Probably not because what you think is pain doesn't hurt much less than organic pain. Perhaps a better question is are you treating the real cause? Being stoned all of the time isn't exactly a worthy use of a human's life. But then it's your life to waste as you want. Just quit trying to convince the rest of us the smoking pot is a good thing because it is not.

One mans fog is another mans clarity.

two college kids just went on a crime spree in chico, robbing people at their ATM's. According to the arrest report, they were buying oxycontin with the money, and dosing between robberies.

Yes, we've heard of pot garden robberies - because pot is semi-illegal, it's worth a shitload of money.

I really don't want to debate the effects of these drugs, which you can only establish by taking them, by the way. What I'd like to debate is the legality of protecting people who have tvs and stereos in their homes but telling people who legally grow pot that they are the problem, not the thieves.

If somebody breaks into my house, I don't care what they are there for, they won't leave on their own two feet.

pypr wrote:

"Getting stoned to the point of not feeling anything? Isn't that the point of taking Vicodin, Oxycodone and all the other prescription drugs, to take your mind off whatever makes you hurt?"
If getting stoned is why you are taking a prescription drugs pot is an alternative because that's all pot does. It doesn't work for real pain. You still have the pain only now you are stoned. Unless you are abusing your pain meds you are not getting stoned. The trouble with the pain meds is that even ones that cannot get you stoned like tramadol have physical addiction with long term use. Someday when you stop taking them you will pay a price in withdrawal and they will not cover pain forever.
" There are millions of taxpaying Americans who think pot helps them cope with their own aches and pains"
And there you have it they "think" pot helps them. Does that matter? Probably not because what you think is pain doesn't hurt much less than organic pain. Perhaps a better question is are you treating the real cause? Being stoned all of the time isn't exactly a worthy use of a human's life. But then it's your life to waste as you want. Just quit trying to convince the rest of us the smoking pot is a good thing because it is not.

Correct pyper - maybe we should stop trying to convince each other, and start respecting each other rights and mind the hell out of our own business.

Hope you are warm and cozy by a big pile of burning sticks - ttfn juanita

I have a friend who takes oxycontin (morphine)for his pain because he has to and it makes him sick but he has no choice because of his sickness.He has smoked med maryjane and it does help a bit but he relies more on oxy. Its a shame to see this man in his condition hes got valley fever--hes diabetic

juanita wrote:

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Correct pyper - maybe we should stop trying to convince each other, and start respecting each other rights and mind the hell out of our own business.
Hope you are warm and cozy by a big pile of burning sticks - ttfn juanita

Juanita, you are wrong if you think this is not everybody's business. It is. It will be your tax dollars having to heal these fools smoking what they claim is a harmless little weed.

Very few regarding this issue have an intelligent debate on the harmful physical effects on the human body regarding smoking or digesting marijuana. You might legalize this drug; it is a drug and society, you the tax payer will have to clean up the mess from the overdose’s on smoking marijuana, the addicted on marijuana, the cancer caused by marijuana, the short term memory lose,the lung diseases and numerous other health ailments that occur when you are a chronic pot smoker, that’s one joint a day.

Overdose on pot?

Seriously? Are you High right now?

You might spend the night on your bathroom floor but you won't go all Heath ledger from a green hued Apple Turnover.

Pretty sure all research attempting to link cannabis to cancer proved that weed smokers tend to have less risk of the disease. One interesting statistic has shown that college educated people are more likely to smoke than those who didn't go to college. Could this be why most prohibitionist arguments are so misinformed? Go find a clue before you regurgitate mindless nonsense.

Dizzy wrote:

Overdose on pot?

I have seen that before. A guy set down with a couple of pot heads and took some hits off their bong. He coughed and chugged, snot ran out of his nose, then he rolled off the couch on to the floor and stayed there for hours moaning every time the guys hit their bong again. It was pathetic.

Hi Juanita! You bet, I have a big stash of firewood for my wood stove. This time of year my fire never goes out. I just rake the coals a bit and toss on more logs. I am burning some seasoned oak this year in addition to my usual pine limb wood. I even snagged the tree that PG&E cut down in front of my house. If I can find some climbing gear I am going to whack down the last three trees on my property to start next years stash.

More anecdotal, idiotic proof of absolutely nothing. You should read Angelina Campanero's letter in today's ER about fireplaces Tim, you both present arguments with no factual basis.

Here are a few of links you might find useful someday Tim:

http://www.na.org/
http://www.hazelden.org/
http://www.bettyfordcenter.org/
http://www.drugrehabcenter.com/4/army-drug-re...

Yes, smoke pot, turn up the pot-oriented music. In the name of entertainment, pro-Marxism lyrics will trail through your mind. Don't worry, be happy. We are in control of the dials!

Pot is just like any other medicines? OK, would you and the other users advocate so passionately, angerily for another medicine? If so, which ones and why?

Watching Foxy News kills my aches and pains because I laugh so hard at those clowns - especially the airheaded blonds and Feck - on there that the endorfins fly at mach 3 in my brain.

calhoon wrote:

kitterman,,you are a dipstick.

Well, I can't really argue with an articulate argument like that. Keep smoking!

compationate use wrote:

Ultram makes me nauseous. Vicodins, or Oxy's make me too drugged up to be productive. I can vaporize some medical marijuana and still do everything that I need to do in a day. Different strokes for different folks.

Pot is a terrible painkiller, period. Just be honest and say you like to get high.